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What book can I read to make it so that my mother will always be happy and never die?
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>>8904685
>tfw maman died in February

It's sad
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>>8904685
damn this looks like the countryside of my youth. now it's all windmills, pylons and obnoxious country bumkin millenials playing pokeman go

we need to go back
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kill yourself

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>raskolnivok yearns to be something greater, feels inadequate with his own existence
>he's the protagonist of arguably one of the greatest novels of all time

What did Dostoevsky mean by this irony?
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>>8904669

He wished he was the protagonist of The Idiot but became the protagonist of Crime and Punishment?
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>>8904679
Shut the fuck up
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made me think and brightened my day

thanks lad

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Can you people of /lit/ suggest me some good book about nihilism?
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>>8904533
less than zero
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>>8904533
Many of the Great Books are about nihilism in some form or another. Moby-Dick. Blood Meridian. Karamazov. Hamlet. Anything written by Kafka.

If you go into philosophy stuff, there have been a lot of big thinkers wrestling with nihilism since the 19C: Kierkegaard, Nietzsche, Heidegger, Sartre...all those guys. There's really no one great must-read book about it. You're better off reading them all.

Even great films: The Seven Samurai, Apocalypse Now, Rambo: First Blood Part Two (well, two of those films are great films, anyways) - they all deal with this, the loss of meaning, man's inhumanity to man, all of that. Some rare vidya too...nihilism is basically what separates the wheat from the chaff.

Nobody has all the answers. In literature great authors just resolve their own great questions in powerful ways, and in philosophy great thinkers articulate problems that are effectively universal. In the end you're always left to make up your own mind about which answers work for you and which don't, but for the last hundred and fifty years or so there's no shortage of things to read about nihilism. Pretty much all of it is!

That's a longer post than I meant to write. imho nihilism is scary but in the end I think it's actually what makes people realize life is kind of rare and beautiful.

Go get fucked up on nihilism, anon. It might even be the path to enlightenment. And even if it isn't, I mean...it's still pretty interesting anyways.
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>>8904964
This tbdesu

I'm considering joining a book club. They want to read pic related.
How bad it is?
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>>8904515
Not bad at all, if you're eleven.
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>>8904515
Its a childrens book, like not even young adult, 12 year old stuff. Its not bad but I literally read it when I was 10.

Abort.
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>>8904515
Assuming you're not bullshitting (which you probably are) it's probably one of the only YA books I remember reading when I was a kid, its imaginative and kind of funny at times from what I remember. There's much worse shit for kids to read than Colfer but unless you're 9-12 I don't really see why you'd want to read them. Also saw him on The Late Late Show here in Ireland a couple years ago, bearing in mind most authors aren't social butterflies he was a weird dude.

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>She was a handsome woman, but not beautiful

What did he mean by this?
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>>8904388
"she" was a tranny
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He meant "the best thing I ever did for my magnum opus was die so that someone competent could finish it."
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she had a weenie

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Have some tea, /lit/.

Let's get to know each other a bit.
What brings you to the enjoyment of literature?

Myself, I was raised without tv, and in a hippy Christian family, at least at the beginning. Everyone read all the time, and stacks of books everywhere.

Thank goodness for my two sets of patrician grandparents!
They introduced me to art, Shakespeare, opera, jazz, and classical music.
My reading at home was a great deal of the Bible, Pilgrim's Progress, Louisa May Alcott, Lois Lenski, and later on 19th century fiction and biographies (my mother forbade anything written after 1950)
I craved fairytales, mythology, fantasy and science fiction, which I snuck like candy, and hid in my room.
Interestingly, while the rest of my life has been a difficult adjustment to the modern world, I do feel that I have a pretty good basis in literature, and I continue to love relaxing with a good book.

But enough about me. How about you?
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I'm having some beer but thanks.

I read the short stories and fairy tales of Oscar Wilde when I was 16, because I knew Morrissey said he was a big inspiration for his song lyrics. And I liked it a lot. Plus I've always been interested in making up stories myself so it call came together.
After reading Lolita at 19, I realized that not only stories but language itself can be extremely touching and impressive.
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>>8904399
Yes, I have found that story telling and good use of language don't always go together, and I will sometimes describe an author as a good storyteller, but a bad writer.
Of course it is lovely when they are good at both! I really enjoy Perdido Street Station for the language AND the story, for instance.
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>>8904384
I think a lot of it has just been "fake it 'til you make it"

I was 15 when I decided that I wanted to be POTUS one day. Along with this, I decided that if I was ever going to occupy that position, I'd need to be smart (lmao how wrong I was--Bush, Obama, and Trump are all dummies). To be smart, I thought I'd need to be well-versed in philosophy and decided that I was going to major in that.

It was tough going at first, but I came to love and enjoy philosophy. This in turn drove me to other pursuits like Shakespeare, Ibsen, Faulkner, Dosto., etc.

Along the way I learned that public office was not for me.

I'm three years out of colege now. I've kept up my literary pursuits which have taken me away from my small-town home and I now work at a public policy think tank. I fucking love my job and my life. Not humble at all, but i feel like I can do anything I want. And I owe a lot of that to 15 year-old me's decision to prove myself to the world and to all those who ever doubted my potential.

My advice is just stick with it.

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I don't read much anymore but I'm really in the mood to read an emotional story, something that really draws you in with endearing characters and a nice setting. I'm sure these threads are frowned upon but please rec me some books :)
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stoner got me real emotional yo

not even kidding

something about the toughness of life but also it's hidden beauty and the importance of work, craft, devotion

i fucking cried at the end nohomo
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Norwegian Wood by Murakami
haters gonna hate
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Cannery Row has lovable characters and a comfy setting with beautiful descriptions.

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>tfw had sex
Any books for this feel?
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Try Starting With the Greek, or How to Prevent that Most Unfortunate Activity Sex.
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On Women
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>>8904321
>mfw she asked if this was more interesting than Plato
>"yes"

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Why did Bloom say David had no discernable talent?
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>>8904276
He was judging him by the standards of a potential canonical writer, as David was posturing as and as his cronies lauded his work as.
Its true in that sense. Wallace offered no original insights, to the world, our time or even himself. His writing style was contrived and predictable. His characters stuffy and superficially explored.
He was certainly competant and moderately intelligent. But as a writer his success and legacy was entirely facetious positioning and cultivating an illusion of profundity. He killed himself knowing this.
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>>8904296
Speaking as someone who's only familiar with Wallace's essays, I'd definitely recommend his work to others as having many interesting and useful concepts and observations, but if his whiny passive-aggressive (aka post-ironic?) tone carries to all his works then I understand why he can't be considered one of the greats.
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>>8904276
Because Infinite Jest is no The Flight To Lucifer. If DFW had any discernible talent, he would have abandoned all hope of creating something original, done a re-tread of a book that nobody had ever heard of, disclaim it, and then swear he would annihilate every copy of it if that were possible.
That's what a patrician is like.

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What does /lit/ think of Blood Meridian?
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>>8904267
edgy tryhard reddit garbage
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>>8904267
It's V good.
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>>8904267
it's the kind of book redditors recommend to each other when they want something dark and gritty.

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read my first pynchon book

i don't get it

can someone explain

should I read GR?
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>>8904264
There's nothing to get. If you haven't read, delete this thread. If you did read it but didn't finish or didn't understand it, delete this thread, read it again and then you will get it :)
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>>8904264
if you don't get crying of lot 49 don't jump to gravity's rainbow.
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It's about conspiracies and how they manifest in the mind. It leaves the question of whether or not there was one open.

This is a theme that runs throughout Pynchon's work.

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You can only recommend one book. What book do you choose and why?

I would choose Actress in the house by Joseph Mcelroy because I'm totally over the classics. That stuff is played out.
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>>8904201
id recommed psychedelic experience by timothy leary and his friends. good book desu.
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>>8904201
Wow, she's beautiful
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>>8904201
Just tell us who the damn semen demon is.

Reading this now. I could be a contrarian and say it's overrated, but it's not- it's really fucking good. One quibble, though:

If Marcus Aurelius was so fucking wise, why was his son such a dissolute piece of shit?

Is this a case of "those who can't do, teach" or "physicial heal thyself?" Was he just a terrible parent? Even if his son was naturally horrible and distant- why couldn't Aurelius be a better psychologist- and influence him?
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>>8904191
>why did he not teach his son virtue
>can virtue even be taught
>what is virtue

Hmm sure doesn't fucking sound like you started with the greeks. Reread Plato's "Protagoras," esp. the sections on noble Athenians failing or not even attempting to make their children good.
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Plato talks about this sort of problem among the Athenians in the Meno. It's always been a problem that virtue is unteachable.

Or alternately, have you ever tried teaching something to someone who didn't want to learn it? Probably not easy.
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>>8904191
you gotta let people to be as they are, naturally. it's impossible to change a person, it's impossible for a person to really change.

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You're a fuck up
Who doesn't know what's up

Close up shop, Shut up ya mouth, Upheaval, Heat up, Mix it up, Up in your shit, Follow up, Turn it up, Dance up a storm, Throw up, Hold up.

Give me some 'up' phrases/idioms/colloquialisms to make me angrier at the prevalence of up in conversational English.
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up yours idiot
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its time to up your game
the only way down is up
turn that frown up-side down
cut it up (as in the rug on the boogie down dancefloor)
get a little cut up (as in the sex)
messed up
broke up, with my beaux
when will this let up
get up, stand up, stand up for your right
trussed up
prettied up
man up you bitch
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Op, a tragedy by anon

The cock was thick
Horselike in shape and appearance
Thick and juicy, just right for the suck and fuck
He stared up at it, on his knees like the good little bitch he was
The aroma penetrated his nose and he eagerly awaited
For when it would penetrate his ass
But he paused
Something was wrong
He knew there was something he must do first
Wait here, he tells his master
And he ran to his laptop
And opened up /lit/
And started a new thread

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Has anyone ever endeavored to seriously engage with the thought of pic related? It appears very worthwile to me, yet I neither know where to start and which philosophers must be studies beforehand. I encourage us to have a little chat about it.
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>>8904168
Cartesian Meditations is reasonably accessible, it's based on lecture notes and is meant to be more of an exercise for the reader rather than some theoretical foundation of phenomenology.
You'll probably want to be familiar with Descartes and Kant at least, but but not necessarily beyond the level of having a general understanding of the history of western philosophy.
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>>8904168
He's an excellent thinker, and its a pity he's overshadowed by a meme like Heideggar.
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>>8904168
didnt he get btfo by Frege?

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