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If you cloned a transgender person, would their clone also be transgender?

As in, identifying as the opposite sex?
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>>6700145

Since it has a lot to do with what hormones you were exposed to (but also your sensitivity to them) which could vary with pregnancy, I don't think it's likely.
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>>6700145
nature v nurture theory

Too bad we don't have a few million dollars laying around to properly clone someone and test this theory
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>>6700145
I would think so. Here is some interesting info about monozygotic vs dizygotic twins and transgender rates:

13 of 39 male MZ twin pairs (33.3%) were found to be concordant for transsexual identity and eight of 25 (22.8%) female MZ twins were found concordant. In comparison, concordance between either male or female DZ twins was low or zero (1/38 = 2.6%; Table 5).

Notably among our responding twins were three sets who had been reared apart and were concordant in transitioning. One was a male set within which the brothers were separated at birth, another was a set of males separated at age 4, and the third was a female pair separated at 14. Each had independently and unknowingly transitioned and found out about each other’s switch as adults after the gender shift.

>Transsexuality Among Twins: Identity Concordance, Transition, Rearing, and Orientation:
>http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/15532739.2013.750222

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I was really curious about something.

I've been on hormones for 8 months and alot has changed. I'm not even on large doses. 4 MG estrodiol and 250 MG of spiro.

I was wondering if I am cute enough. I started hormones pretty late in the game, I'm 23 now when I started I was 22. But I've always had a much more androgynous look than most biological men.

Only problem is I am tall, 6'2 but I have met a few biological girls who are as tall as me, I also have broad ish shoulders. What kind of tips can people give me about picking clothing?

Another side note about myself is that I feel much happier on hormones than I did before I started. Even though I can't pass 100% of the time mostly due to my height and voice. I feel alot more gender fluid than most trans girls. Sometimes I rock boy mode, sometimes I don't. But I'm cute enough when I wear women's clothing that girls I know and other people think I'm cute and have even gone to work in girls clothing.

TL;DR
>Trans girl who is looking for types on dressing myself
>wondering if the next 2 years if things will change more I am growing tits, and I feel great about it.
>tips on vocal training
>hairstyling tips for girls with curley/wavy hair.
Trans thread general discussion acceptable, but let's all try to be kind to eachother. Pic related is me about 2 weeks ago.
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Whatever you're doing to your hair already is great. I'm super jealous
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>>6700141
You pass so well, especially the lips you got a perfect jaw. I fucking bet you feel good on pills! Good on you baby. If you have good legs make sure to use those as your main feminine point and wear clothing that draws attention down there and keep the tops simple and cute. So like skinny jeans, a cute top, or like some sort of booty shorts and like a girl vee- neck type deal.
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>>6700359
Wow really ??? Thank you so much... I've been sitting here depressed feeling like I'm not girly enough when I want to be girly. Weird thing is is when I decide I am going to be more of a tom boy during the day I still look handsome.

So v necks and things that show of my collar bone to make up for my wider shoulders?? Also my mom gave me all of her jeans and they fit perfectly.

The thing I worry about the most is how my voice sounds and my height. Sadly there isn't much I can do about my height.

>>6700230
Honestly, my hair was dirty that day, in a pony tail lol... I always bitch about my hair not being pretty. But thank you so much though, I worry alot.

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I havn't used grindr to hook up before(never hooked up with a man before). On grindr my profile pic is blanket, but when guys say hi and ask for pic I usually give it to them if I feel like it might go somewhere, I've done this twice so far, the first time the guy started the dm with a "can I suck your dick?", when he got the face pic he responded with "nice" and never texted me again. The other one really annoyed be because it was from this torso pic(he had no muscle development, he was simply kinda skinnyfat), when I posted my face pic he blocked me. That really made me depressed and made me feel like I'll never get laid on grindr.

Hell, I'm toned(kinda muscular), I used to be fat but now I'm at like 15-18 % bodyfat.

I've only been blocked once since I've lost all that weight(I just started using grindr again to day), and I feel like a freak, a worthless hideous freak. This is really making me depressed and anxious and like a worhless piece of ugly shit. I never thought I was plain old fugly, but I guess I am.

p.s. I just took a pic of myself on the spot, I didn't hype it up or make it too flattering.
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>>6699943
Grindr is like fishing. If you want to catch a good fish, you need to cast your net really wide and then toss back any fish that are crappy.
One or two people rejecting you is no biggie. Even the hottest guys deal with that. Also in the first case it sounds like you weren't even rejected and you could have probably sent another message or two
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>>6699943
Post it.
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>>6699983
roll

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBVy0xtDoRo

How did transgender go from being a medical diagnosis to being a freak show?
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>Buzzfeed
There's your problem.
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>>6699830
When the emo fad died
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>>6699999

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being a dude is alright, but I wish I was female

I don't think I feel gender dysphoria, since I have no issues with being male, but I am very jealous of the female form.

being a female would be a lot better in my opinion, except for bone density. I would have breasts. shitty mainstream doctors wouldn't remove part of my genitals. the most universally attractive form would involve having a decent amount of fat, so there's eating how I actually want to. Being a heterosexual male, I think feminine faces are more attractive.

that concludes my essay on why I would prefer being a female. this isn't trans though, is it? that would require gender dysphoria, right? there's nothing wrong with being male except for the constant fascination with vengeance.
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>>6699576
TL;DR: If I woke up as a female tomorrow that would be nice, but I don't dislike being male

trans?
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>>6699589
Sounds exactly like my repression methods. I only decided to transition after I had a breakdown after somebody close came out to me as Trans and the Dysphoria would never go away afterwards.
It might happen to you as well.
What do you really have to lose anyway?
Sure it's a lot of effort, social shit is annoying and maybe in the end you would be a a straight male in a female body, but that notion by itself is ridiculous because no actual normal male would prefer to be female forever the next time they wake up.
So yeah I think you're very likely Trans.
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>>6699621
this was more of a philosophical post than anything else, so be ready for a WoT

don't you think that some of the temptation behind the trans movement is that you actually can come off as more feminine or masculine through various methods? what if I wanted to be something that definitely wasn't going to work out, like a giraffe?

there's a very good chance that, through what we'll say would be transition to simplify the conversation, everyone labels me a freak and I come out very unappealing?

I've heard that if you like women and are trans you had better be very successful in life to attract them, or subject to yourself to people who only see you as a fetish. that's just the current climate for some people and is subject to change I'm sure.

I'm not being argumentative or mean. I'm just being frank, since we're talking about my life here.

>what do you really have to lose anyway
I certainly have struggles to gain, as we all do

>no normal male would prefer to be female forever the next time they wake up
rather than me talking about myself, I think we should discuss this bit of philosophy, if you are willing. being the male sex is having x, y. being male in gender I guess is identifying as male in gender. in all of my dreams and daydreams, I am male. there isn't one in my memory where I don't have an x, y body.

so where do we take the logical leap from the situation of a *male* who sees perks to being female and say, "this person must be the same as those who are dysphoric of their body and might even dream of being female, people who would become more feminine at any cost due to a natural urge to self-actualize"

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I sexually Identify as Filthy Frank. Ever since I was a boy I dreamed of smearing hot ravioli on my pocketoli. People say to me that a person being Filthy Frank is cancer and I’m fucking autistic but I don’t care, I’m beautiful. I’m having dark lord Chin Chin banish me to the rice fields. From now on I want you guys to call me papa Franku and respect my right to meme and eat ass needlessly. If you can’t accept me you’re a Filthyphobe and need to check your chromossome privilege. Thank you for being so understanding.
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>>6699400
Kinky.
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>>6699400
I sexually Identify as a 4chan user. Ever since I was a boy I dreamed of browsing over the internet and reposting transphobic "memes" and racist jokes. People say to me that an emotionally mature, intelligent person being a 4chan user is impossible but I don't care, I'm beautiful. I'm having a neurosurgeon remove my ability to feel empathy for other people. From now on I want you guys to call me "/b/tard" and respect my right to belittle people who are different to me. If you can't accept me you're an SJW and need to learn how to take a joke. Thank you for being so understanding.
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>>6699585
You need to take a joke too.

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will i ever be able to transition and not be terrible? 188 cm 15 stone 15% body fat ratio or so
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>inb4 big ugly fat girl and hon memes
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>>6699343
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>>6699345
big ugly fat boy

How do I get tops to fit when I have no boobs?
I just look like Russell Brand
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>>6698818
Chicken fillets and a push up padded bra
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>>6698818
don't use chicken filets. there are much more sanitary alternatives.
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>>6699095
Wait so do those go like under the boob?

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Can you explain to me why bis trigger gay men and women in particular?
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>>6698588
Cause they get all the poosy and all the dicc
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>>6698588
I mean I would love to be able to pass as straight.
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>>6698588
>B-B-BECUZ DEY STRAIGHT IN DENIAL.

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alright. should i kill myself?

i know that 4chan really isn't the best place for that question but hear me out. i'm 18, ftm, going nowhere. i'm still not on T and i hate doctors so fucking much that i'm not sure i'll ever be on it. i can't deal with them. i've been trying for 2 years so far, and they've all been unhelpful. i look like a fucking child, no one will ever take me seriously.

other than that, i have chronic depression. i've been struggling with it since i was around 9 years old, and i've never gotten real help for it and it's only getting worse. i exercise regularly to try and fight it, but it doesn't help. i have no goals. i mean that. people ask me what i want to do with my life, and i have no answer for them. at this point, all i want to do with my life is end it.

i was supposed to go to college this fall, but the money situation got all fucked up and now i don't think i'll be able to go. i don't know what to do. if i don't go to college, then i have nothing. i can't drive, i don't know how i'd handle a job. i worry that if i learned to drive i'd have an episode while driving and crash my car into a tree, or worse crash into someone else and ruin their life too.

what do i do? what else can i do?
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yeah sure
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>>6698343
do you know how i could do it so that my body doesn't look grotesque afterwards? i want it to be as easy for my mom as possible to find my dead body.
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FUCKING DO IT

Any tips for coming out to very conservative religious family members?
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>>6698172
You don't
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>>6698172
Be sure you have several backup plans (bed, money, food)
Don't hesitate. Stand up to them, but don't scream.
Say something like "you raised me to be honest and true, and that's why I tell you that."
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Yes.
Don't.

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I'm Gay!
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Congrats?
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>>6697992
Nice famalamadamalamatitydodaadipityshoppityloopitypopitymanomamily
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>>6697992
homosexual gay queer faggot

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My aunt is pretty cool about my transition except that she refuses to use my female name. I said it to her a few times now but she just jokes around and uses my old name or male variations of it. She just doesn't get how important it is. I'm considering to cut contact with her but then she is very rich and has no kids...

What would you guys do?
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If she is rich and has no kids that changes everything.

I'd stop giving a fuck about it and think about the money.
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>>6697231
Kill her and steal her money. Make it look like an accident.
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>>6697231
Just let her use whatever name she wants because shes family, I love her and I am confident enough in myself that I don't need others validating my identity.

If its that important to you then clearly you are not entirely sure of yourself

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2 years on HRT and I still don't pass but hey, it's actually a good thing I look like a man. If I were born a woman or looked like a woman it'd be very likely for me to get raped in different stages of life while now looking as a man I can only get killed, thank God. I am actually starting to appreciate my masculine chiseled looks and my height because it means I will always be respected and never belittled for my appearance because the only thing that makes a man a man is his brains so
I don't have to care about the clothes I wear
I don't have to care about how I walk
I don't have to care about the way I talk
It's great to finally accept my role as the ruler of the earth which all men indubitably are and you hons should do the same,

Being a man has its perks, you know?
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I can't hear you over my happiness of passing pre-hrt
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>>6697174
>I don't have to care about the clothes I wear
>I don't have to care about how I walk
>I don't have to care about the way I talk


>tfw started passing within first year of hrt and still wear my faggy boymode clothes
>tfw i can also wear dresses and skirts as well
>tfw i never had to worry about how i walk since smal shoulders and decent hips
>tfw i spent like 2 weeks improving my voice since my pitch was at like 180hz


I just think some people weren't meant to transition. You just wasted 2 years of your life OP that you'll never get back. But you probably would have spent it fapping to trap porn anyways.
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>>6697222
You sound pretty! (Shame about that personality)

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I really think I messed my anus up. Does it ever shrink back? Every time I pass gas there is no sound.
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you could try to exercize it by tightening the muscles and loosening them
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Yes, it does. Just give it a couple of months; that's what I did, anyway.
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>he fell for the anal is safe liberal meme

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