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Why did old school style imperialism stop? Why did Europeans say to themselves "well instead of slaughtering them all with our superior tech and taking their resources outright well let them govern themselves and actually pay for the stuff". Like what was going through their heads.
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1) Many colonies initially started as coaling stations and trading posts. Steamships needed to make frequent stops to get more coal. Might as well put the land to use around them, right? I mean it's costly b- oh no the military we stationed there just conquered all of the natives, now we have to do SOMETHING with it!

2) By the time imperialism started to come apart the colonies were bleeding money. Colonialism benefited the private sector (either directly or indirectly benefiting everyone from the poor to the super wealthy), not the public sector. Eventually, especially after WWI and WWII, the drain on the public sector was just too much. Teach some of the locals how to govern themselves then book it. If they succeed, hey, the White Man's burden paid off :^) if not oh well they can't rule themselves without superior European governance, no skin off our bones :^)

3) The US and the USSR stomped out European colonialism to make way for their own non-colonial empires (inb4 hurr durr the USSR was a Marxist state so it can never do anything I perceive as bad durr hurr)
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Because Europeans aren't psychopaths and actually believe in Jesus

Seriously, everyone in Europe freaked out when they learned of Leopards private house of horrors
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>>897759
>Why did old school style imperialism stop?
Stalinist democratic centralism, the AK-47, and the war debt of Japan, France, UK, Holland, Netherlands and the economic failure of Portugal and Spain.

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So I just watched Aferim, and I'm interested in learning more about gypsy slavery. Can anyone recommend some good books on Romanian gypsy history, especially ones that focus on slavery?
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They got freed in 1910 and have failed to integrate ever since.
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They deserved it

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Where can I learn more about the craft of convincing propaganda?
I noticed that good propaganda tends to induce an emotional shock and makes the person question their most fundamental values, then presents what seems as cold, logical, calculated arguments. What is this technique called?

Also, what manuals and teachings did the Nazis and the Soviets use to craft good propaganda?
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>>897601
Much of it is psychological, but there's a lot of aesthetics behind it

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Let's go fampais.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdDtc9KQLcs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZvpdJ42wYE
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>schubert died before finishing the 8th symphony

Utter tragedy.

That being said i perfer his string quart/quintets.

Do you feel that philosophy and reading in general (which the internet has made far more accessible than ever) has made you useless? As in, it made you spend so much of your time developing skills in areas that, really, only individuals backed by wealth are able to take advantage of, rather than developing skills that are more practical for your social/economic/family status? Is this a problem with extending access to higher subjects to the lower echelons of society, or just a personal problem?
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>>897293
>Do you feel that philosophy and reading in general (which the internet has made far more accessible than ever) has made you useless? As in, it made you spend so much of your time developing skills in areas that, really, only individuals backed by wealth are able to take advantage of, rather than developing skills that are more practical for your social/economic/family status?

I DO NOT THINK SO.

PERSONS TEND TOWARD ACTIVITY THAT IS SUITABLE TO THEMSELVES, AND TO THEIR PERSONALITY; ACTIVITY DOES NOT DEFINE PERSONALITY, AND PERSON, BUT RATHER, PERSON, AND PERSONALITY, PRACTICE WHAT IS SUITABLE TO THEM.

AN INEPT, OR LAZY, PERSON WILL BE INEPT, OR LAZY, REGARDLESS OF HIS/HER EDUCATION, WEALTH, OR PRESTIGE; PERSONAL QUALITY IS NOT DETERMINED BY THE EXTERNAL, BUT BY THE INTERNAL; ID EST: APTITUDE, OR INEPTITUDE, ARE QUALITATIVELY IMMANENT.

ONE MUST ALSO CONSIDER THE RELATIVE ASPECT OF APTITUDE, AND INEPTITUDE; INEPTITUDE CAN BE MADE APPARENT, OR IT CAN BE INTENSIFIED, IF THE ACTIVITY IS UNSUITABLE TO THE PERSON, OR THE PERSONALITY, AND CONVERSELY, APTITUDE CAN BE MADE APPARENT IF THE ACTIVITY IS SUITABLE TO THE PERSON, OR THE PERSONALITY.

SUITABILITY IS NOT DEPENDENT ON TRANSEUNT CRITERIA LIKE "LEARNING ABOUT CERTAIN TOPICS", OR "HAVING GREATER INTELLECTUAL ACCESS", ETCETERA, BUT IT IS DEPENDENT ON CRITERIA IMMANENT TO THE INDIVIDUAL.

ALSO, IT IS FALLACIOUS TO CLASSIFY SECTORS OF HUMAN ACTIVITY BY SOCIOECONOMIC CRITERIA.
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>>897341
But what if the ready access of endless data enables otherwise energetic people with potential to success, as defined by society (i.e. wealth, status etc), to pour that energy into the pursuit of knowledge that won't elevate them as it would've before, when academics was a rarer but certain road to success?

Sorry no caps
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>>897382

AN INDIVIDUAL WITH A CERTAIN KIND OF PERSONAL POTENTIAL WILL CONSCIOUSLY, OR UNCONSCIOUSLY, TEND TOWARD ACTIVITY THAT WILL DEVELOP THAT POTENTIAL, RATHER THAN TO ACTIVITY THAT WILL STYMIE THAT POTENTIAL, SO THE HYPOTHETICAL SCENARIO THAT YOU ARE DESCRIBING IS VIRTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE.

FAILURE OF ACTUALIZATION IS NOT DUE TO HAVING ENGAGED IN UNSUITABLE ACTIVITY, BUT DUE TO HINDRANCES EXTERNAL TO THE PERSON; ID EST: TO DETRIMENTAL, OR ADVERSE, CIRCUMSTANCES, NOT TO ENERGY DIVERTED FROM SOME FICTITIOUS PREDETERMINED DESTINY.

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Are we ever going to figure out ancient history?
Seriously, there are so many dots that don't connect and almost everything that is not within the consensus is just dismissed or forgotten, specially when it comes to early migrations and the evolution of mankind?
Are these conventions delaying historical research?
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what are you even talking about. your post is vague
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>>897110

Due to resarch in linguistics and genetics, we know pretty much exactly what happened.

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Fuck Yes. Does /his/ agree?
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>>896933
Good is subjective, so that statement just further exemplifies that God is more likely than not simply the individual's psyche
>tips fedora
Yeah, yeah
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>>896933
If I recall Paul's statement is referring to martyrdom cult that was part of early Christianity. There were a lot of early Christians that were actually trying to get themself killed so they would be saints.
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>>896933
>god
>omnipotent being who creates beings in his image but does nothing to help them and if they so much as stray from his morals they are sent to hell and tortured until the end of time.

I dunno man seems like a bit of dick

Hey /his,

I literally know nothing about plague doctors or the black plague other than the name and time period.
Can someone tell me more about plague doctors, were they members of the catholic church or something? Why did they wear a mask shaped like a bird, I understand that they wore full body suits to avoid contact.

I'm really mainly interested in icons and symbols that plague doctors had and used, like the church has a cross and priests carry around a stave, did plague doctors carry around anything special?
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Teaching history is not the same as discussing history.

Google it.
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They did not really do much, considered a bad sign because they were everywhere the prescence of a plague would be. They were educated and did research on diseases, they seeked cures and wrote down facts.

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Alain Decaux - historian and member of the Académie française - has died at 90. He wrote prolifically on French history beginning with his first book in 1947. Has anyone read his work? I've seen him mentioned, but haven't read him much directly.
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>>896892

why don't you start by reading some of his books?
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>>896895
Where should I start? He has about 80 of them.

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I often hear in debate that Hitler wanted an alliance with the French and British rather than to go to war with, nonetheless bomb the shit out of them. One time I even read that Hitler didn't want war with France since he didn't want to fight his fellow "Germanic brethren." However I can't find any of these statements in literature or articles, and only seems to be heresay. Even one of my own best professors (and definitely the smartest dude I've ever met) said the same but he didn't source himself of course. Does anyone have any proof that the Nazis wanted alliances with Britain and France? Naturally everyone hated Communist Russia so it's certainly understandable, but I'd just like to see and read the evidence myself.
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well if Hitler actually wants the Germanic people united, as he did with the Nordic people and the Austrians, Dutch, Sudentlanders, it would only follow that he'd want the Anglos on his side.
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Allied with the Croats

Feels slavic man
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>>896808
He didn't bomb the shit out of France to begin with. He even strengthened the status of the Breton minority.

Also see Hitler's peace of 1940.

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How was life in the Portuguese Caliphate under the rule of alberto barbosa?
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I read it that it was arround that time that the Spanish started sending their picardias to colonial America.
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It was pretty good. Trade flourished, people multiplied and the literacy rate more than doubled from 0% to 0.01%. At the end it all began to go downhill though, when the ancestors of Modern Anglos began to raid the coast of the caliphate to kill as many Aryans and other nonanglos as possible.
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>>896815
>It was pretty good
Not true at all.
Your statement is completely oriented to the point of view of the peasants and white slaves.
For the rich, there were severely high taxes and the meme industry hit a dead end arround year 1456, when the last archeological relics of the Finno-Ugric Ancient Empire's holdings in Colonial Iberia were destroyed by alberto barbosa's own orders.

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I would like to put forward the idea that World War I was not really a world war, and the title of First World War is better attributed to the Seven Years' War. The Seven Years' War occurred on multiple continents, in multiple theaters of war, and involved most of the major powers of the era. World War I was almost entirely limited to Europe and the Mediterranean.
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>>896561
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>>896561
>World War I was almost entirely limited to Europe and the Mediterranean.
Maybe fair to leave out relatively minor ground battles in the far East but there were actions, as well as maritime interdiction.

You also leave out the African theatre.
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>>896561

The 7 years war was a relatively 'soft' war.

The 30 yrs war would be the 'first world war'. It was much more ferocious and it also saw action around the globe.

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Is the bible an accurate moral representation of God? If so, one could argue that such a being holds immoral values by evaluating it's actions throughout the text.

Therefore; would it not be considered untrue to claim that one does not need to disprove the existence of such a being to dispel the arguments of the mass-minded, but accept a being's reality and merely identify that it's morals are not parallel to those that are considered right and just?
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When would you say the muslim world completely stagnated and became completely set in its ways?
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>>917573
They were going fine in most places until about fifty years ago when the Islamists started running the show. They just need a reformation and things will be back to normal.
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>>917573

Most likely around the time the Mongols sacked their cities and salted their lands.

That said, I believe the fact they refused to ever accept usury basically prevented their culture from ever developing.

The Christians got around it in the middle ages but having the Jews handle the government loans, but eventually they just got over usury and developed by leaps and bounds economically in the 1700's.

Ergo. No Muslim nation can ever develop economically because they will not have usury and will always stagnate.
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>>917576

In order for Muslims to reform to Western standards, they would need to stop being Muslims.

Or at least admit that the Quran is a nice story for children at bedtime but not moral guidance.

I'm mean Richard Dawkins is the best opponent of Islam (well he's anti-religion in general), but he correctly points out that even if you are a modern, the Quran specifically says that the punishment for Apostasy is death. Its not a mater of interpretation or reading between the lines.

Quran (4:89) - "They wish that you should disbelieve as they disbelieve, and then you would be equal; therefore take not to yourselves friends of them, until they emigrate in the way of God; then, if they turn their backs, take them, and slay them wherever you find them; take not to yourselves any one of them as friend or helper."

So yeah... In order to reform, you would have to either say:

A. The Quran is not literal suggestion on how to live your life.

or

B. The Quran is not correct all the time.

Which when pressed I have no seen any moderate admit to.

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Why does every person on this board have a pop knowledge of humanities at best?
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How about you?
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Because that's the price to pay for being part of an anonymous uzbek tree shredding collective.

Your credibility cannot come from anything But the content of your post and the way it is written, unlike most communities where you have an identifiable persona which gives you a pre-determined status and trustworthiness.

Every once in a while you get someone who actually knows what they're talking about, but unfortunately you are also knowledgeable on the suspect, you can't really know whether a poster has credibility or not.
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>>929754
>but unfortunately, unless you are also knowledgeable*

fix'd

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