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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K63PN2bxAXE

What does /his/ think of this video?
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>>1366581
the resentment and edginess make me wonder if it's a false flag to make nationalists look bad

not to mention the narrator's voice...
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I will bump this now
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>>1366581
>presumptuous american voice
>ebig metal in the background
>flashy cuts with an average length of under 5 seconds

Just goes to show america was a mistake.

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He did nothing wrong desu.
He really tried his hardest, and almost succeeded.
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>>1366515
Tried a bit too hard. Oppressing the religious leaders and turning them into martyrs is a good way to lose public support. That, and pissing off the western powers.
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>>1366515
His only mistake was being head of a region that the Soviets wanted.
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>>1366515
He looks like that one guy from Seinfeld
Elaine's boss

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Does anyone else find the demise of House Stuart kind of disappointing? Especially since House Hanover is pretty lame.
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nope
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>>1366377
Would still be catholic if that revolution wasn't so glorious.
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No, actually ever talented leaders to be honest, even James who was a notorious homo and witchburner was otherwise pretty competent.

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YES YES WELL DONE ROMULUS WELL DONE ROMULUS

HOWEVER
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>>1366176

And this shitty meme is supposed to be funny cause...?
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>>1366179
Everyone can easily do his own shitty version easily.
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>>1366176
YES YES WELL DONE DIOCLETIAN WELL DONE DIOCLETIAN

HOWEVER

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Has there ever been a school of thought or a political movement that advocated the advent of nuclear warfare, either as a means to a specific goal or as something inherently good ? Asking after somebody here talked about Posadism which got me interested.
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>>1366151
http://www.lacan.com/zizmaozedong.htm

"When Mao high-handedly dismisses the threat of the atomic bomb, he is not down-playing the scope of the danger - he is fully aware that nuclear war may led to the extinction of humanity as such, so, to justify his defiance, he has to adopt the "cosmic perspective" from which the end of life on Earth "would hardly mean anything to the universe as a whole":

The United States cannot annihilate the Chinese nation with its small stack of atom bombs. Even if the U.S. atom bombs were so powerful that, when dropped on China, they would make a hole right through the earth, or even blow it up, that would hardly mean anything to the universe as a whole, though it might be a major event for the solar system.

This "cosmic perspective" also grounds Mao's dismissive attitude towards the human costs of economic and political endeavors. If one is to believe Mao's latest biography, [11] he caused the greatest famine in history by exporting food to Russia to buy nuclear and arms industries: 38 million people were starved and slave-driven to death in 1958-61. Mao knew exactly what was happening, saying: "half of China may well have to die." This is instrumental attitude at its most radical: killing as part of a ruthless attempt to realize goal, reducing people to disposable means - and what one should bear in mind is that the Nazi holocaust was NOT the same: the killing of the Jews not part of a rational strategy, but a self-goal, a meticulously planned "irrational" excess (recall the deportation of the last Jews from Greek islands in 1944, just before the German retreat, or the massive use of trains for transporting Jews instead of war materials in 1944). This is why Heidegger is wrong when he reduces holocaust to the industrial production of corpses: it was NOT that, Stalinist Communism was that."
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>>1366181
Interesting, but that's not exactly what I'm asking. This is more a gamble or a fuck it, they wouldn't dare attitude and a sort of nihilism, not a position that actively wishes for nuclear warfare to happen.
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>>1366209
The only "school of thought" that actively wishes for nuclear winter are the Schopenhauer-style pessimists who consider that life on Earth is never-ending pain and suffering and that oblivion for all would be the greatest good.
There aren't too many of them since that sort of mentality tends to lead people towards fringe Apocalyptic religions or Transhumanism first. It's only once they get disillusioned with the afterlife and with sci-fi utopias that they start considering human extinction as a goal.

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>spooks
>not semiotics
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don't understand that thread but I love how you can find hand paintings like that all over the world
someone went there thousands of years ago and decided to leave a mark for other people to know
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>>1365992
>don't understand that thread

Semiotics. Semantics. Symbols. All have the same place in communication as they do hands on that wall. Ideas communicated less as rationalizations and more what rationalization would look like under a certain set of emotions, themselves simulated. All is symbols.

Spooks are an outdated concept that's far easier to understand, and yet wrong. In fact, falling to semiotics more than anyone by basing it only upon that.
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>>1366014
you havent read stirner, have you?

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I feel like this would be the best board to ask, I apologise if there is another board where I should have posted this.

I'm starting to make my family tree, so I can learn the history of my family, it's origins, and all that jazz. But I have no idea where/how to start. My living family has next to no information on our past relatives. We have some of their last names, but that's about it.

I've heard ancestry.ca/com is a great website for finding this information. Only problem is, I really don't want to pay that $29.99 a month (money's already tight enough as is). I feel like googling their names is going to give me many different people, with the same name.

I guess my questions would be (as stated earlier) where should I start? And how do you kind folks of /his/ make such an accurate family tree??? Any tricks behind it???
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>>1365937
Pro tip: don't even bother. You're a peasant all the way down like 99% of the population.

That aside, most places keep physical records. Your local municipality or whatever, should have some shit archived, although I don't know how accessible it would be.
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>>1366123
>tfw this is true to no end

I looked at mine as far back as around 1066, and it was the most boring thing I have ever seen

My mums side is Scottish
>Miners
>Miners
>Farmers
>Some soldiers

Dads side is England
>Soldiers
>Soldiers
>Soldiers
>Farmers

No one who was a solder was even special, just infantrymen who died most of the time

I spent roughly £300 to discover I am of pleb descent (but thanks to them im alive, so you the best)
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>>1366123
>tfw wuz actually aristocrats n shiet

How did slavery become a contentious issue in American politics?

I don't want to hear about the Wilmot proviso, Bleeding Kansas and the rest of the roundup of the Civil War. Rather, I am curious why, out of many issues that divided the nation, this one came up the the most important, defining divisions.
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>>1365848
If I had to guess, I would say that the biggest problem is that it made the American ideal inherently contradictory. To quote writer Samuel Johnson: "How is it that we here the loudest cries for liberty from slavers?"
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>>1365848
like >>1366623 said, it went against many of the ideals trumpeted during the revolution. Otherwise it became an easy way to attack the south during rising tensions between north and south over tariffs and expansion.
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Since the 3/5s Compromise, although the precise things being contested varied

What state had it the easiest during the American Civil War? What state had it the worst?
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Washington d.c
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>>1365769
>What state had it the easiest during the American Civil War?

Tie for every northern state except Pennsylvania.

>What state had it the worst?

Probably Georgia.
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>>1365816
I think Oregon had it easier than the rest of the north
>all the way out west
>on top of that they have California as a buffer zone

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Does daoism have a pantheon or is it athiestic?
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Atheism mostly only exists in the context of Abrahamic religion, the term doesn't make much sense outside of it
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>>1365591
It just means that there is no god or gods.
Granted god is a nebulous term and it probably makes more sense to use it in the context of abrahamic religions since monotheism tends to embody significantly better what is meant by god by most people.
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>>1365631

>It just means that there is no god or gods.

Again, in an Abrahamic context. For instance, there are a lot of Hindu atheists

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Lets talk about the cold war

>most stylish genocides?
>your aircraftu - hard mode no sr71
>your favorite black market
>favorite war
>favorite dictator
>favorite assasinations
>favorite trade vetoes
>favorite speeches

LET US GOOOO
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Cold War bibliography:

http://pastebin.com/eEbXk5kp
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The sr71 radar didnt work to hide it from nornal positions. It used radar jamming and flairs to throw off heat seeking and radar guided missiles combined with its anti radar chasis and paint. It could evade any manually driven missile.

It should stay decommisioned; although the earlier meme reasons have little foundation, it would be more politically heated today, and advanced missiles may finally be able to shoot it down.
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I think we all know that JFK's assassination was the best during this period. If we talk about unsuccessful attempts then let's just go with Castro.

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>BTFO by S-P & Prussia
>Loses German Confederation
>Daughter dies
>Son suicides
>Wife assassinated
>Frau Schratt won't even tickle his balls

You're having a better day than Franz.
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Franz.. Franz had a hard life.
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>>1364629
Oh I suppose...
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>>1364629
>BTFO by S-P
Literally when? France and Prussia did all the work, S-P got btfo and had to be handed concessions by France.

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Hello /his/, first time poster here.
Do tell me if I'm doing it wrong so I can delete this thread

I'm looking for data and essays about the economic development of the Mediterranean region, specifically the Industrial Revolution. To be clear I'm talking about the whole Basin with maybe a focus on the European side.
Which books should I look into if I want to further my knowledge in this regard?

Thanks in advance

btw, I can into French if some resources are only available in this language.
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Shameless self-bump
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>>1364611
Industrial Revolution did not really reach most of the mediterranean. You should search for it in Northern Italy and Spain specifically.

Greece for example never had an industrial revolution. They just got a few factories here and there. Think southern italy was largely the same but I dont know.
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>>1365550
What about Northern Africa? Did they underwent any industrialisation under colonialism?

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Explain to me the Spanish Civil War as simple as you can. Why did it start? Who fought who? What were the major battles of the war? How did the Nationalists defeat the Republicans?
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>>1364583
It started short after the II Republic was funded, some veterans/fascist/traditionalists/reactionaries generals such as Franco, the soontobe next big boss, started a rebellion from the canary isles and in different places from the peninsula.
Basically there were two sides: The fascist one composed of veterans, soldiers, "policemen" and extreme right wing such as Falange and the Republican side composed of people who liked the republic, communists, anarchists, some international soldiers and left wingers.
The real major battle was The battle of Ebro, but the major carnages happened in towns and cities. Another important thing was the bombardment of Guernica, which inspired Picasso to make his famous painting EL Guernica.
I don't really know how they won, there are a bunch of different explanations. Some say is because the Republican side was too fragmented and Franco centralized the power on himself, some say is because Feminism is cancer. Look it up yourselves because I, a spaniard, don't even know.

All in all, the spanish civil war more a war of brothers as they say, literal brothers killing eachother because of affiliation to a party or another. It's very sad, not because the fascists won, or because we lost the Republic, but because the whole scope of the war focused on small towns and villages where they didn't even have wheat to farm. It was truly miserable.
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After the libertarian organisations defeated the military on July 19 1936, there was possibly the greatest revolution in human history. It shouldn't really be looked at so much as a civil war but as a revolution and counterrevolution. George Orwell's book Homage to Catalonia is a really good account of this repression by what was basically a successful Stalinist conspiracy to take over the Republican government.

This was successful mainly because the other countries had a policy of non-intervention, the excuse for this being an opposition to the USSR, but it became a self-fulfilling prophecy as the USSR was the only country which aided the republic and had a monopoly on the badly needed foreign aid.

The outcome of the war was mainly decided by Britain, who led the other countries with the non-intervention policy while Germany and Italy supplied the golpistas. The British navy intervened in favour of Franco's side to block supplies to the republic, and the American government did nothing meaningful to stop Texaco from sending oil to the fascists.

After the Stalinist counterrevolution there was a forced militarisation program of the anarchist militias, the best account of this is given in A Day Mournful and Overcast. The Stalinists also sent in tanks and sent soldiers from the front to break up anarchist collectives. With governmental authority asserted, there was a massive drop in morale because people were no longer fighting for freedom and the fulfillment of their own desires, and end to years of injustice and social tension.

The republic lost the war, and the Francoist regime broke the back of the CNT and killed hundreds of thousands of people. The liberal powers never helped, not then or after WW2. They even fought beside Franco's Spain on a number of occasions.

This is my very biased view of it, all views of it are incredibly biased so be careful, especially with liberal scholars who we usually presume to be objective.
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>>1364620
>Falange
>far right
By the way, you're omitting that the communist barbarians were carrying the Red Terror.

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In recognition of the death of Elie Wiesel, let's discuss the historicity of his books.

I read Night in grade school and later came across some accusations that his accounts were partially fictionalized, but I didn't care enough to follow up and more readily dismissed it as /pol/shit. Where do his books stand among historical holocaust works?
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>I read Night in grade school and later came across some accusations that his accounts were partially fictionalized

Here's the thing: all memoirs contain elements that are partially fictionalized. This is true across all time periods, all genres, all events. It's not limited to Night, it's not limited to WWII memoirs, it's universal.

The primary reasons for fictional elements in memoirs are:

-For narrative/structural purposes. For example, someone might combine locations or people into one person in order to make it easier for the reader to understand, or eliminate certain parts of the story that might 'bog down' the memoir unnecessarily.

-For personal reasons related to the content of the memoir. For example, someone might not want to admit that they did something or witnessed something that might make them unappealing to the reader or would cause controversy.

-Due to lack of memory and the need for detail. For example, someone will not likely be able to remember exact conversations spanning weeks/months/years of their life, so they may invent them or cobble them together from various conversations to create one cohesive conversation for a part in the memoir.

-For biased reasons. For example, someone may want to encourage a certain point of view by portraying people or events in a certain way. This is more common with revolutions and political upheavals. (see: Royalist memoirs about the French Revolution.)

So, yes, Night contains fictional elements. All memoirs do. It's difficult to gauge just how fictional Night is because Wiesel never specifically told people what happened to him and what may have been fictionalized for whatever reasons. Based on the interviews and speeches he's given that correspond with most of the events in the book, I would personally classify it as a regular memoir. As opposed to a story fictional memoir like This Way for the Gas, Ladies and Gentlemen.
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>>1363472
Man, this sounds naive, but I've often wondered how anyone managed a memoir/autobigoraphy when many I've read had such extreme detail and depth when my own memories seemed to lack the organization of those within a great autobiography.

I thought perhaps I just had comparatively poor memory and when writing about distant personal events, I'd use some of the same techniques you've listed as a crutch, but seeing that it's more common than I imagined is reassuring.
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>>1363472
You failed to mention insanity. Several memoirs contain claims that can only be explained away as hallucinations, hysteria or various disorders. Or deliberate lies, I suppose.

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