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>>1406989
Read Eric Foner's "Free Soil, Free Labor, Free Men," since it covers pretty well the ideology of the non-abolitionist majority of northerners who made up the Republican Party. Most of them were mainly interested in preventing the expansion of slavery into the western terrorities because they feared that would undermine their ability to settle in the region themselves and establish family farms and small town communities of the type they were used to in the Midwest and East. They were also concerned with the degradation of labor that they associated with slavery, but the morality and feelings of black slaves themselves were never really taken into consideration. So yes, the political and economic factors associated with slavery and its expansion were bigger concerns for most northerners than moral issues. Which is why most northerners (including Lincoln) were less interested in ending slavery than preventing its spread west. Radical abolitionists were never more than a vocal minority in the North prior to the start of the war.

>>1406989
>why didn't the north use slaves in their factories

They did, the Irish.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wage_slavery

A lot of politicians actually argued wage slavery was worse than the southern variety. In the south slaves were provided with food, clothing, medical care and what we'd now call job security. A wage slave may get paid for his work but if all of his money is spent those necessities, is it all that different?

That argument ignores self-determination, of course.

>>1406989
Also, northern capitalists didn't use slave labor in the factories because 1. they were operating in a non-slave society in the north and 2. hiring free wage labor was cheaper than owning or even leasing slaves for factory work. Less obligation to provide for wage workers and their needs once they leave the factory if you don't own them but instead have a labor contract with "free" individuals. Which is not to say that industrial societies and slavery are incompatible (the south's industries and railroads relied extensively on slave labor, and for construction projects).

George Fitzhugh wrote extensively of the north's "wage slavery" and contrasted it negatively with the chattel slavery systems of the South. A lot of poor workers in the North were sympathetic to this line of argument and hence the working class, particularly the Irish had little sympathy for black slaves, since they viewed slaves as having a better lot in life than they did.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Fitzhugh#Cannibals_All.21

They blame Adam and Eve for sinning and thus cursing the perfect world into being painful and full of death.

>>1414121
I am talking about the Creation.

For what reason could a supposedly perfect, self-contained, almighty and all-knowing being have decided to create the world? It's paradoxical, since a perfect being would want for nothing.

>>1414121
Seems like a mighty big cop-out.

Why make humans with the capacity for sin? Why make the tree of knowledge of good and evil? Why not just make humans be born into heaven in the first place if God loves us so much, why the Rube Goldberb-esq "get into heaven" scheme? Why create Satan if God is omniscient and knew he would fall?

And don't give me the "muh free will" BS, if our choices are eternal suffering or doing gods will, that's not a choice.

No, he was the primary deity of the Hebrew pantheon.

Allah is literally the arabic word for god
So unless the pre-islamic arabs had a god called "God" in their pagan pantheon, I doubt it

>>1409887
>So unless the pre-islamic arabs had a god called "God" in their pagan pantheon, I doubt it

Greeks had so - Zeus is actually etymological cognate od Theos. Same with Germanics and Tyr (derived from Tiwaz - god). Or Slavs with Dazbog (literally god-giver).

>>1412890
yup

>>1412890
It brought Napoléon in the end, so it was all worth it.
t. Frenchman.

short time mistake but we got some enlightenment ideas out of it

>muh stupid unsubstantiated myth
First of all, they look fucking nothing like Greeks to begin with, neither them nor Kalash.
Second of all, Greeks weren't all that light to begin with compared to middle eastern populations.
Third of all, genetic studies prove they're more or less like their neighbours, albeit with peculiarities that come from isolation for thousands of years. They're local selections for the same traits as in Europe.
Finally, pre-proto-IEan genomes were sequenced and they were all without exception dark haired and dark eyed,and the light pigmentation in northern Europe is a recent post neolithic development. So cut the 'muh blond eyed untermensch aryan' meme shit or go back to pol.

>>1410808
All of the white-ish people of central Asia (Nuristanis, Kalash, Pamiris, etc) are descended partially from the Tocharians, the Indo-European people who inhabited the Tarim basin until they were conquered by the Uyghurs. There is also lesser contribution from Indo-Iranian steppe tribes and Greco-Bactrians.

>>1410817
Bullshit. Large-scale Mutations have happened in many instances. Aussie Abos can be blonde, uncontacted African tribes can have green eyes, and certain Native American tribes had blue eyes when they were first discovered.

You know I've always tried to stray from the whole, for lack of better term, "le wrong generation" mindset, but I always have found a calling to it. Sometimes when I see an old picture, I get this weird pang of nostalgic sadness that I just can't explain. What is it that compels guys like us to this way of thought? Is it the fact that we are historians at heart, that we want more than anything to witness these dates and places we've spent so much time thinking about? Is it that we never quite fit in in our times, and in some way, we think that we are better suited for another time? Perhaps, those times really were better. I know this is probably not true, but don't we all sometimes get that feeling that the romanticism is dead in the modern era? Don't you sometimes feel like you're living in those last few turns of a game of Civilization where you've set all your cities to autocomplete, and are just biding time for your spaceship to Alpha Centauri to finish, all of your battles fought, all of your struggles finished, all of your glories won? We feel cheated by this fact, that there were so many interesting times in the world, but our own lives are so boring (the fact that this is probably our own doing being so lost on us).

In the end, I think what it really comes down to is our existential dread. We are all so afraid of our lives being pointless. That we lived for nothing, that we accomplished nothing, and that we, for whatever reason, missed out on all of the adventures of life that we should have set out on. There is a comfort from this fear in looking backwards. We know how their stories end, there is no other way they could go. Deep down, we long for the comfort of that, that we could free ourselves from the shackles of free will, and exist in a story that we already know the end of, instead of blazing our own story in our own world. Anyway, those are just some thoughts I've had.

btw sweet dubs bro

>>1410199
>wild west
Wasn't wild. If you'd like, we can go over this again and you can get thoroughly btfo again.

>>1410233
This is exactly how I feel. Thanks for sharing Anon.

Nice dubs to you also

>>1414623

I know nothing about the airplane but based on the general shape I would speculate that it was a dedicated night-fighter.

>>1414635
You are close. It was a general-purpose heavy fighter (meant to replace the 110) that have dedicated night variants.

>>1414623
Compared to what?

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An non SJW of 4chan say people from my country are niggers. I'm sure there would be people on this board saying they agree, but there isn't a flag display on this board...

>>1408041
u w0t? Are you North African and offended by me calling Moors negroid? Are you talking about something else entirely?

WE WUZ MOW ZART N SHIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEET

man typing this felt good

Haven't read it, but I'm going to weigh in with a guess that it's another one of those "Rich people are too rich, and we need the government to tax rich people" book.

>>1407006
>Haven't read
>Still gonna spout bullshit
Just kill yourself, faggot

>>1407025
>"The book's central thesis is that when the rate of return on capital (r) is greater than the rate of economic growth (g) over the long term, the result is concentration of wealth, and this unequal distribution of wealth causes social and economic instability. Piketty proposes a global system of progressive wealth taxes to help reduce inequality and avoid the vast majority of wealth coming under the control of a tiny minority."

Look at that. My hunch was right.

Maybe you should find the rope yourself fag.

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All thanks to brave Finnish soldiers.

What should I know about the history of sweden anyway?
Inform me.

>>1411222
Nice Dubs

They were at one point considered a great power and defeated other great powers of the day like Russia and Poland. But this was the 17th century.

>>1410263
search 'jewish pograms' you

>>1410263
>>1410263
>Then we all just go and give them a country that wasn't there's just because of this supposed suffering.

Let me just stop you right there. Nobody gave Israel to the Jews. They made that from scratch. The west wanted Jews and Pallys to play nice and both parties told them to fuck off.

>Is there any actual validity to historical Jewish persecution?

Yeah it may have been over exaggerated but their are literally 100's of potential examples.

The entire history of the Jews have been based around lies, false accusations of persecution.
The Exodus is what red-pilled me.

Literally influenced by this autistic virgin philosopher who killed himself after writing /pol/ tier philosophy on women and Jews.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otto_Weininger

>go out for a walk during an air raid
>get injured be paraplegic for the rest of your life

HAHAHAHAHA

>>1407513
>>1407547

I can smell the machiattoes from here

>>1403532
>Adaptablity, great numbers and horse mounted warriors made them sucessful
>If Genghis or The Great Khan didnt die he very well couldve layed a seige to Europe, however the problem would be consalidating power of the vast amount of land he conquered.

Hope I helped....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongol_military_tactics_and_organization

TL;DR fucking outplayed

Their success was that Europe and the ME was fragmented and decentralized with no organized army.

>>1410382
No, they were more like Muslims.

What on earth did drive you to that idea?

>>1410382
Thank doesn't make any sense.

>>1410386
That makes even less sense, somehow.

Arminians, Papists and Crypto-Arians, explain yourselves.

i as a catholic believe that on occasion the pope can invoke the Holy Spirit, and when he does so he is infallible, never had a pope invoked the Holy Spirit and decreed Catholicism is a false faith

>>1404307
So you only care what the Pope says, not what scripture says?
Well, you're Pope has also "infallibly" declared Islam to be true.