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Greetings /his/, can you recommend me the best and most detailed book about the history of Western music? preferably from the view point of a professional musicologist, with explanations about the progress of musical ideas and theory, preferably from the classic period onwards, I'm not entirely sure this is the right board to post my query but as you are the board that's concerned with the history of concepts and my main goal is to research the history of Western music I hope that I'm not making a fool out of myself, if what I ask cannot be satisfied with just one book I would be enraptured to hear about any piece of literature that could grant me even a portion of the knowledge that I seek.
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Here's the Yale Listening to [Western] Music course of Craig Wright:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLh9mgdi4rNezhx8YiGIV8I22ICSuzslja
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>>1407692
Thanks anon but I'd rather have a comprehensive book more in the lines of what I asked for.
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>>1407690
>I'm not entirely sure this is the right board to post my query
Well you sure as fuck wouldn't get any help going to /mu/
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Was she german, russian or polish?
As a german I was taught she was german. But maybe that is just our national bias. So let's talk about this, I guess.
Also, general thread about minor historic stuff that might be taught differently in other countries.
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>>1407302
She's of the House of Ascania, so she was German by birth but clearly associated with Russia.
It's kind of strange that the Royal courts of Europe are more or less cosmopolitan.
Also a lot of German derived dynasties around ruling the Monarchies of Europe.
When was it when the Russian court started speaking French?
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>>1407327
>Also a lot of German derived dynasties around ruling the Monarchies of Europe.
Like Britain.
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>>1407332
True, Hannover, Saxe-Coburg und Gotha, Oldenburg.
They're all German prots.
I wish the Stuarts were still alive.
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>*record scratch*
>*freeze frame*
>"HOLD IT! See that guy saluting himself? That's me! You're probably wondering how I got here! Leader of the third reich? Crusher of international Jewry? Facial fashion trendsetter? Trust me, it's a long story! Lemme start from the beginning!"
>*rewinding noise and flashing of images including crystalnacht and wheelbarrows filled with deutschmarks*
>*Camera swooping through the trenches amid scenes of soldiers passing the time*
>"See dat fat dog faced guy? Dat's Churchill! You'll see him later, believe me!"
>*camera moves through the trenches extremely quickly before slowing down and another soldier is shown in slow motion reading*
>"See that intense guy? He's Witty, the greatest philosopher of the 20th century! He's fighting for the good guys, like me! Real romantic, huh!"
>"What, you say World War 1 never happened like this? We were never all on the same batlefield? Geez, it's a long story, lemme spruce it up a li'l, capiche?"
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>But let me start at the very beginning...
>*zooms out of the map and zooms in over Braunau*
>"Yep, that´s where I came from. Pretty lame, right? But wait, it gets worse!"
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Autism is no joke.
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CAUSE I'M IN TOO DEEP
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what does /his/ think about ibn taymiyyah?
>be born during mongol invasion
>Mongols destroying the Abbasid caliphate and Khawarizm
>Crusaders attacking the Levant
>Shiites welcoming and helping the Mongols
>everywhere islamic world is crumbling
>hometown completely destroyed during mongol invasion
>become a scholar
>gets named the Sheik al-islam
>unleash fatwa against alawite and ismailis shiite scum
>personally participates in jihad expedition against alawite and ismailis
>mongols invade again and occupy damascus
>the absolute madman spoke directly in front of the khans face and roast him in front of his entire court
>led resistance movement in damascus and managed to release Muslim and dhimmi prisoners
>mongols invaded again 1303
>rallies local population and unleash a fatwa on the mongol
>personally fought on the frontline and btfo the mongol army at the battle marj-al-shaffar
him, ghazali and wahhab are the only one with enough balls to bring islam back to its root, free without any kuffar influences. even now his teachings are still relevant and practiced by various mujahideen
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ibn? is that a muslim version of ivan
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>>1407172
It means "Son of"
Ibn Tamiyyah is a western misunderstanding of Arabic naming.
Taqi ad-Din Ahmad ibn Taymiyyah
Piety in the Religion, Praised son of Taymiyyah
I don't know what Taymiyyah means it must be a true personal name not a word
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>>1407172
it means ebin :DDDDD
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Half-life 2 combine ideology compared to real life discussion.
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Can we discuss the type of system 'the combine' were using to keep the population under control? Anything from the government to the police and working class may be discussed.
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>>1407126
Hi /v/eddit!
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>>1407137
Im just curios if its comunism
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>>1407126
See "1984" and "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest"
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Let's talk about capitalism and inequality.
Do they come hand in hand? Is inequality bad or is it necessary? Is it unavoidable? If capitalism is about the big fish eating the smaller fish, is there a certain point where this mechanism starts getting detrimental to the majority of the society? Should governments be concerned about not allowing inequality to reach a certain extent? Is the middle class shrinking a warning sign that capitalism has taken a self-destructive path that leads to a totalitarian leftist system?
If anyone is familiar with Piketty's work, I would appreciate some summing up of his ideas too.
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Inequality existed before capitalism.
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>>1406946
that's debatable
some kind of barter probably always existed
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>>1406950
Some kind of barter isn't capitalism. The same as some kind of sharing isn't literally communism.
what caused such a variety in asian languages and lettering systems? in europe we see that most languages have very similar structures and pronunciation, even when crossing language families, most even use the latin alphabet with minor additions and accents (with the obvious exception of slavic languages.)
but in asia, china, japan, korea, thailand, and vietnam all have hugely varied and different languages, with each having a completely different writing system (with the exception of Japanese and Chinese, who share a ideographic system.) So why did this happen?
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thai script is brahmic in origin, viet script got PORTUGAL'D, korean script was reformed in the middle ages
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>>1406936
>viet script got PORTUGAL'D
French'd
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Rome. There used to be a bunch of other alphabets descended from Greek, Runic, Gothic, continental Celtic, Ogham, many Italic scripts, Etruscan, Glagolitic, Iberian... But those fell into disuse through the Empire's and later the Church's influence. With the printing press the Latin alphabet was even further standarised. But outside western Europe you still have Cyrillic, Greek, Armenian, Coptic, hell Georgian has three alphabets all to itself.
As for Asia, the situation isn't all that different. The Islamic regions almost invariably use Arabic, Cyrillic or Latin. India and Indochina have distinct alphabet for different languages, but like with the older European scripts they all have a common root. Hangul and Kana developped because Chinese character are horrible for writing anything that isn't Chinese, and through the influence of other scripts. Mongolia is an interesting case, since they have a bunch of native scripts (also sometimes used for neighbouring languages) which descend from Sogdian and are a branch of alphabets which don't survive otherwise; in any case Mongolian is often written in Cyrillic too.
As for linguistic variation, most languages in Europe are descended from Indo-European, so it isn't a surprise they're similar to a degree; Indo-Iranian languages also share a genetic origin with them. Most of the Middle East (North Africa included) speaks Arabic. Central and Northern Asia are Turkic languages or minority languages being displaced by Russian, save for (again) Mongolian. Maritime SEA is all Austronesian, which is one big family extending from Madagascar to Polynesia; continential SEA is either Austroasiatic (Vietnam, Cambodia) or Tai-Kadai (Laos, Thailand). Again Japan and Korea have their own languages thanks to isolation; China is mostly Sino-Tibetan languages being dominated by Chienese. In South India you have the Dravidian family. The Caucasus is a huge clusterfuck.
cont.
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Why was everybody so afraid to tell him that people were starving and dying?
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>>1406451
Same reason no one told Stalin "Hey maybe killing the kulaks isn't the best idea"
They didn't want to die
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Because nobody wanted to be blamed for it
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>>1406451
They were well aware people were starving and dying. What to do about that was a different problem.
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Anyone recommend a good overview?
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nukes
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>>1406109
Hop, hop, hop
Big boom.
That's all there was to it.
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Im reading Retribution by Max Hastings.
Alot of insight regarding the leadership on military leaders. Like, how the army and navy pursued two different courses and very rarely worked together, which caused massive clusterfucks in logistics and planning.
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Today I had a discussion with a co-worker about an ancient Greek who lived in both Athens, Sparta, and several other cities. I remember him being featured in a history channel documentary a few years ago, however I cannot remember his name other than he was described by one historian as the "Greek Chameleon." He apparently was very adept at adopting the customs of his adopted cities, being described as being "More Spartan than the Spartans" during his time there by one historian. He was eventually ousted from both cities for one reason or another and I believe he ended up in Asia Minor (could be wrong on this). Any idea who this figure might be? Its been nagging at me all day.
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>>1406031
Alcibiades.
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>>1406049
That's him. Thanks anon
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>>1406049
Yeah, he was an absolute mad man.
>born Athenian, student of socrates
>Gets athens to attack Syracuse who is allied with sparta
>gets charged with impiety because of some vandals
>leaves syracusan expedition to avoid charges
>goes to sparta, lives as a spartan
>fucks the wife of the spartan king
>goes to persia,helps satrap in Asia minor
>convinces Athenian aristocrats to overthrow the democracy
>convinces the army/navy to overthrow the aristocrats and reinstate a democracy.
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What was this guy's problem? What was he going on about?
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I remember reading an excerpt of something from him and nodding with agreement at every sentence, it was like our thoughts just flowed together in the same direction. I don't consider myself /pol/ but I don't know.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhGEGIBGLu8
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>>1406043
>Oh don't you see what I mean
What did he mean by this?
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How should one go about in trying to judge or guess the intentions of historical figures?
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Every single one was interested solely in expanding their own power.
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Pragmatism vs. idealism: Did the leader do what they did because it was expedient, or did they do it because it appealed to their innate virtue system?
Note: These categories rarely overlap, because what is expedient is rarely what is virtuous.
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>>1405893
By attempting to immerse ourselves in their situation as deeply as possible.
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I am studying degree in history, How poor will I be?
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30 subjects, good quality university and public!
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History isn't like STEM where your degree defines your job, you can do basically anything you want that requires critical thinking.
Also use the phrase "critical thinking" in every job interview you will ever have.
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There are plenty of lower end of white collar jobs that will hire you with a Bachelor's degree in anything. Quit buying into the myth that your degree is a guaranteed career pattern.
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>>1405753
>Also use the phrase "critical thinking" in every job interview you will ever have.
No, no, there are some places where you don't. Are you applying to do back end clerical work? To do manual labor? Then don't use the word "critical thinking" unless it's a service project designed to lead into a career.
How does one become a god?
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By killing themselves of course
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>>1405669
Well, you can't. What you can do is trick a bunch of people. Experience shows that desert people are some of the best targets for this kind of thing.
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>>1405669
Well we would need to define what a god is
I think achieving a form of physical immortality would at the very least get your name added to an encyclopedic entry listing gods
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>yfw the wright brother flew the first airplane. Based as fuck.
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>>1405597
must have been scary to ride something that was not on a stable surface...
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>>1405597
yeah but did they really fly the first airplane?
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>>1405865
I think that people in Germany were the first to fly what would be considered an airplane.