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Yes.

it's just a stupid idea thats not worthy of being discussed tbqh

>>2392077
>ok, look my friends, The bourgeois have so much power that they oppress us, because we have less power
> So I have an idea
> Give me all the power to me, in the government
> The bourgeois? Yes, his power will be mine too.

> Later, the revolution of the "proletariat", becomes a circlejerk where 3 retards have more power than hell and kill everyone that does not like

I wonder why it will be ...

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britain would still have found a reason to bring themselves in alongside france and russia. the 1839 treaty of london only required britain to respect belgian neutrality, not uphold it. that was belgium's business. literally no legal requirement to defend it.

fact of the matter was the germany was their largest rival and they were not willing to risk a scenario in which germany emerged as the undisputed master of mainland europe.

>>2392067
Thoughts on world 1914-1945

WW2. Half a million Germans died at least. Not to mention the crushing amount of deaths of Russians and other slavs. I'll leave the holocaust and any other ethnic cleansing out of it just to keep it strictly to openly accepted warfare deaths (military and civillian, again not including the holocaust) and add about a million anglo-American combined dead.

Europe was destroyed, the iron curtain sealed tight, and all European colonial holdings were opening into independence. East Asia had stupifying millions of dead, and Japan lost its industrial base.

Ironically, almost every objective the axis powers of central Europe sought to complete through war and intense militarism from 1914 to 1945 were brought into fruition shortly after their capitulation and utter destruction. In western Europe, and then in almost all Europe after the fall of the Soviet bloc.

Germany got its desired position as leader of a pan-European continental sphere of unity based on German economic power. France lost all relevance as a serious military power, and Britain lost its empire, the maintenance of which was all it really cared about during both world wars.

Japan too sought power and wealth in a greater sphere of pan-Asian-Pacific influence by bringing about a self destructive war, and it ironically only achieved this aim after capitulation and millions of deaths by having the US pump in loads of money, force democracy and western trading practices on it.

Basically, after German unification into a single state and before the first world war, they were being pressured on all sides (France to the west, russia to the east) to contain them as the continental super power they naturally were.

>>2392117
Cont.

I dont blame Germany for merely realizing its economic, scientific, and cultural potential. The older great powers of the entante were truly trying to hold them down. I don't condone the schleifen plan they used to back Austria in war, but they didn't lose the war of 1914 in the way they did in '45. They merely signed a constricting armistice that posponed hostilities for a couple decades. Hitler was in the right to do whatever he could to unite German peoples and territories in the inter-war period, but he didn't learn the lessons of unchecked militarism as a means to achievement of his nation's goals. This is why Hitler will ultimately be seen in the future forever more as a poor statesman, regardless of ethnic cleansing and authoritarianism.

The entante powers fortunately did learn one important rule from the armistice of 1918. They learned that imposing resentful and destructive punishments on your enemy merely postponed hostilities to a further date. By embracing democracy, trade, and infrastructure, you can negotiate loans in order to rebuild your enemy to your liking. When the Versailles treaty was imposed, the league of nations had no room for negotiating. They could try to embargo or sanction a non-compliant nation, but Germany was already under the most humiliating imposition possible. This left the leage with no bargaining chips other than resuming the hostilities that ended in 1918.

>>2391823
I can't tell if that image is intended to troll atheists or to troll creationists by presenting their apologetics in a poor light.

>>2391864
Everyone use to include bats as birds originally because there was no point in separating them, they flew, they were birds. now things are too technical for no reason, bats were excluded from birds because they are related to things that don't fly, and it proofs god isn't real for some reason.

>>2391619
Funny because it's mostly the right-wing morons who try to distort history to fit their agenda.

I mean its not a bad comparison right? In that show the fire industrialized and expanded. Kinda happened with Europe.

>>2391646
You probably made that image.

>>2391464
Their army wasn't very good.

The real autism would be funding bolsheviks that would inspire revolutions in your own country and ultimately kick your shit in 30 years later

Regime change and the Bolsheviks signed a cease fire with the Germans.

>history channel
>The dinosaurs were invisible.

Would the history channel have a fighting chance to be good again if it was liberated from the clutches of Disney?

>>2392929
I don't have History Channel where I live, care to explain why it is/has become bad? I've always only heard good things about it

>>2393142
endless reality shows (pawn stars, that oak island show where nothing ever happens) that have little to do with history, and endless conspiracy bullshit shows/specials (hunting hitler).

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>>2390978
>but for some reason bow-wielding infantry seem to have taken only a minor role in the history books?
aristocratic bias, a lot of the historians and peoples with the disposable income to follow and pursue history were aristos whose ancestry was connected to knights and lords, so they misrepresented a lot of it early on, this trickled down and may have unknowingly influenced more recent and non aristo writers into marginalizing their position due to lack of reference.

>>2390978

It depends on so many circumstances, the exact interplay of weapon and armor, organization and cohesion, morale and supply, as to be almost impossible to answer without writing a 500 page book.


Generally though, at least in European military history, archers and lighter troops in general occupied a support role. You have to remember that battles were relatively non-lethal; the killing of more than 20% of the losing army's force in a battle was a very rare thing, and the winner would have far, far fewer casualties, as many of the defeated killed would be done so in the post-rout chase.

The amount of enemy soldiery killed while fighting back was a relatively small one, and archers wouldn't be the sole cause of killing in that phase either. But of course, killing is only one part of battle; you usually won not by outright slaughter, but by disruption, by breaking the enemy's morale and cohesion and forcing them to flee. And archers were pretty good for that. They can focus firepower on a part of the enemy force that's out of position or looking like they're wavering far more easily than people with hand to hand weapons. They can cause a reckless charge, as very few troops have the discipline to stand there and be shot at and just take it, even if the arrows themselves aren't doing much killing. They can do things as simple as forcing the enemy into a more defensive position, visors down, shields up, which is tiring and restricts breathing and visibility.


Also, consider that in real life, you often don't have these strict divides that video and old timey board games have. In HYW battles like Crecy and Agincourt, the difference between "archer" and "Light infantryman" in the English forces was a pretty academic one; the bowmen were expected to wear armor and be able to fight in the line as needed. You didn't often have people who could use one and only one weapon in battle.

>>2390978
In medieval warfare the chance of being killed outright by an arrow (or even a sword or lance blow) was slight.If hit, one would be incapacitated long enough to be bludgeoned or hacked to death while squirming in the mud as was the fate of the French Knights at Agincourt

>>2390833
they're just harmless memelords

Freud got debunked by C.S. Lewis.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DH53uFBOGbw

>>2390838
Interesting, thanks

>>2390351
When I discovered the path to true enlightenment through our Lord and saviour the Beige One.

Fuck off lloyd.

>>2390351
Of course it was the best. It's based Czechnology

Pagans worshipped fallen angels and demons.

Israel was the only one who knew the Creator God in those times.

>>2390036
t. Abraham Goldstein

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1.Go to /pol/, /int/ or quroa
2.Find the Desi-general
3.Seek Hindu.
4.Talk about gods

Had an interesting talk with a guy about household-deities.

>>2390036
>fallen angels
>Implying the deities/angels are not positive emanations of the godhead and will help you to understand him better

>>2389781
what are you talking about

It was a thing by the medieval era, but its borders shifted slightly over time before that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europe#Early_history

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>>2389781
Europe just meant Christiandom

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>>2389743
>>2389743

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>>2389743

>>2389743
Dunno just dumping memes.

>>2389138

Is this real? Looks like a movie set.

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>This is what real communism looks like

>>2389138
Well at least they had the right idea. Surely computers will be so powerful in the future a centrally planned economy is viable.

>>2389118
>Communism
Equal
>Corruption

>>2389118
>poor communist shithole
there's your answer

>Hit the slavery trade hard and fast. Japs, africans, chinese, islands.
>Already mixed moor blood says why not mix with slaves?
>????
>Empire over.

>>2388969

Genoa is a poor man's Venice.

>>2388969
you want books?

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>mfw when Genaboos cry about Venice getting all the love