Slott Spider-Epic Pt. 14

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Heading home now. Picking up chinese food on the way back home. Should be there in 10-15. See ya soon.
>Please send bumps if you can.

spider bump

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>>90572158
>Also tripping bawls meow
This was copied over from last night. I'm being responsible now.

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Holy shit it's Eddy!!!

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....and he's back to being a murderer. Swell

>>90572905
Had to make room for all the venoms.

>>90573007
>Hey it's peter. Oh it's not strange at all that you have robotlegs now flash.

What are the possibilities Anti-Venom could be back during Edge of Venomverse?

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>>90573082
Do you by chance know who's writing it? That will affect the probability significantly.

Damn, this was such good character work. No matter what role he comes to fill, i want to see Peter and Flash meet up again some time in or out of costume

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We're probably going to finish Remender's Venom today! I hope you guys don't know me too much for these detours. When I reach the end of issue 21 I'll definitely go to another Spider-Series.

>>90573223
Damn skippy, Remender did such a good job providing depth to someone that I used to literally give two shits about. Now Flash is in my top five Spider characters easy.

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I consider this one of Remender's strongest single issues out of his entire run. The first, second, this one, and last issue all standouts in my eyes.

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ALso forgot about this one. I'm adding that to the list.
#1, #2, #,9, #15, #16, and #21

>>90573163

No idea but I'm going to strongly consider picking it up if he somehow manages to come back permanently during the event.

Actually, I can sort of see how he'd be the one to fix things since his power is to kill the Symbiotes. This is starting to give me hope now.

>>90573334
Betty was always kind of a shitty person anyway. Cheated on her husband with Peter.
>>90573384
I wouldn't get that hopeful if I were you. Eddie finally is Venom after a long time, I doubt they're gonna try to change that for awhile.

>>90573517

Who's to say it is going to be Eddie that is Venom, could be someone else.

>>90572863
what a shame they killed these symbiots off and now we got venomverse coming up

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>>90573900
Symbiotes can always reproduce more

>>90573838
The cover for #6 is literally him saying "we're back!" with the solicit saying "nuff said", and it's going back to a legacy numbering with the issue after that, where the preview shows Eddie's history.

>>90573900
There's still plenty of symbiotes around that they could use that aren't just Venom or an alternate version of it.
>Scorn
>Mania
>Hybrid/Mercury team (on a dog)
>Toxin (Conway said it could still be around)
>Carnage
>>90573928
Venom can't. The writer literally made the life foundation symbiotes as a way to say that Venom couldn't produce any more spawn. He wanted Carnage so he could have a symbiote user with no morals, but then when Marvel asking him for more symbiotes since those two were so popular, he realized what he had done by making Venom reproduce, so decided to try and make an explanation for why there couldn't be anymore. Every symbiote only gets 6 apparently. Unfortunately for that writer, he forgot Carnage could still make kids (and good, because then we never would've gotten Toxin or Scorn)

YOU HAVE TO LICK MY BALLS OP

>>90572905
In Remender's defense that Anti-Venom/Punisher mini ended with Eddie stranded outside a weapons storehouse in Mexico.

>>90574299
i would love to see more scorn and mania
>these things were made for war

>>90573092
>>90573110
God I would love it if Scream was brought back to life and tried to take revenge on Eddie for killing her.

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So sorry for the late post. Internet died

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>>90574306
What's going on, friend? You seem upset

>>90573900
What's to stop a writer from bringing them back to life? Resurrection happens all the fucking time in comics.

>>90574830
>not getting the reference
Newfag

>>90575053
Actual fag

>>90575114
Babby's first shitpost

>>90575151
Someone's clearly butthurt

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I love this Venom series. Did they ever do anything with Mania elsewhere? I was kinda sad it didn't really conclude her arc.

>>90575227
Babby's second shitpost

>>90575327
>posting an image in a storytime
Drink bleach, you fucking faggot. And delete that image while you're at it.

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You know flash is gonna take this personally

>>90575345
Seems more like anally devasted.

>>90575368
>bitches about a post when it's the end of the comic anyway

bawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

>>90575464
Babby's 93458126076th's shitpost

>>90575512
>it's the end of the comic
But not the storytime, you fucking faggot-ass piece of shit.

>>90575539
Babby's fifth shitpost

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Anyone else really like Crimemaster's costume? Somethng about full head masks with simple designs immediately piques my interest.

Also I asked this in a prior thread, but how do peeps feel about:
Domino maks (Nightwing)?
Full Head Masks (SPider-Man)?
Partial Head Masks (Batman; Iron Fist)?
Faceplates (Casey Jones)?

I'm trying to settle on a design for my main villain and I can't commit to a look. Each have advantages and disadvantages

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Unrelated to the current thread, but did anyone here happen to read all of Secret Avengers? I've always been intrigued by it but don't know where to start (three volumes of the series)

One thing about comics, they always know how to dance around giving you the payoff you want and fuck you over in the end.

A dozen times they dance around the whole Spider-man and Flash Venom thing, teaming up or something, or even just talking shit out. First time a flop, second time a flop, third time kinda offscreen, fourth time it was Spock instead, and finally when they did actually meet its like a wet fart that didn't give us any of the feeling we wanted from it all this time. It was kinda wasted in the end.

If it wasn't for that one Elseword story where they finally do team up and address shit with each other without all the bullshit, we never would have gotten the scene we always wanted out of it. It was when Doom took over everything, I think it was Spider-Island world.

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>>90572927

>>90575368
>>90575575
As a die-hard Maniafag, I apologize for this faggot's behavior >>90575327 >>90575512

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>>90577095
Ur golden. As long as peeps are enjoying the comic I'm happy.

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I think I know where this is going

>>90573379
Between Moore, Del Mundo, Shalvey, and Olivetti Flash got some great cover artists.

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>>90577403
Shalvey actually does the interiors for the final issue of Remender's run.

I said it late last thread but I'll say it again.

Thanks for continuing venom, OP. We appreciate it.

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>>90577645
=D
I know not everyone is pleased that this thread has definitely sidetracked into non Slott territory but I still maintain that these extra series flesh out the Spider Universe during this time period.

>>90573082
>What are the possibilities Anti-Venom could be back during Edge of Venomverse?
Never ever. Marvel made him give up ALL of his antibodies so that we can't have nice things.
>>90577694
Nah fuck em, it's good to have a breather here and there.

You can't please everyone in a slott thread anyhow so why not make the most of it. You're a trooper.

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>>90577745
Not going to lie, this reveal had zero impact on me and honestly had no idea who it was. I actually thought it was Ned Leeds till Betty said something.

>>90577755
=D

>>90576139
I've read the last half of Remender's run, plenty of Flash screentime. Spencer's run might be worth including in that Spencer Storytime? I don't know anything about the last volume other than that Taskmaster and MODOK were part of the team and there were some cool covers.

>>90575937
I'm a sucker for noire so I think his design is great.

As for the other masks, I agree that they each have their own pros and cons depending on the theme.

The examples you've listed prove that they can all work well. It really depends on the final design and tone of the story.

>>90576477
> we will be the only ones left for the spawning

I'm assuming this was a plot thread Remender left behind for other writers, and what Bunn was talking about when he said he wanted to a Symbiote War storyline if his Venom run wasn't cancelled.

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>>90577945
>if his Venom run wasn't cancelled.
Crime against humanity. It wasn't Remender's but it certainly wasn't awful.

>>90577778
Yeah, the reveal was a nothingburger for me too. After 20 issues building up Flash, his mom, Betty, and Peter this just comes off without any substance.

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And thus we begin Remender's final issue as Venom. It's been a fun ride while it lasted.

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This page is fucking sexy

I love Brock's progression since he split with venom.

To me, his new upcoming series feels like a cop out, going 5 steps back. Flash really was the best venom.

I want to see Agent Venom in the new mvci game but it will never happen.

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=(

>>90578389
I pretty much agree.

However, Venom bonding to Brock again presents an interesting opportunity. They haven't seen each other for awhile now, and it'll be interesting to see their reaction after they've both changed so much.

Still want Flash back as Agent Venom and Brock back as Anti-Venom though

>>90578372
So many little details that communicate a sense of swinging and going fast

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It's easy to see where many of Flash's worst traits came from. He was chronically exposed to it his entire life.

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Jesus...

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Fucking hell

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Intense page.

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This series ends with a gut-punch. Remender did an absolutely stellar run with with a character nobody would have considered ever carrying a series.

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Now we're switching to Cullen Bunn, who I'm going to assert is a more than decent writer NOW, but when he was first starting out on this and Wolverine he was definitely a little rough around the edges. Glad to see that he is one of the few writers that actually improved the longer he stayed at Marvel which is the opposite of what normally happens. His Magneto series was off the chain

>>90577804
Here's what I'm thinking.

1.Hellboy Vol. 1-12 after this is finished.Matt
>Maybe include BPRD if I can get the volumes.

2. Fraction Thread immediately afterward
>Invincible Iron man
>Casanova
>Sex Criminals
>Mighty Thor/Fear Itself
>Defenders
>Immortal Iron Fist
>Fantastic Four/FF

3. Spencer Thread
>Bedlam
>Superior Foes of Spider-Man
>Morning Glories
>Secret Avengers Vol. 2
> Avengers Standoff/Captain America Sam Wilson & Steve Rogers
>Ant Man
>The Fix
>Thief of Thieves #1-6
>Avengers World

4. And then I can do a Remender thread.
>Uncanny X-Force
>Uncanny Avengers Vol. 1-2
>Low
>Black Science
>Deadly Class
>Rage of Ultron
>Franken-Castle
>Captain America
>Fear Agent
>U


Remender thread which will include...

>>90578716
Oh Shit, I'm Ready For That Hellboy One, hope you can find the BPRD issues

>>90578716
Anon, don't overextend yourself.

Dont forget all of Moonknight

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>>90578807
I'll sandwich Moon Knight after Hellboy.
>Huston Run
>Hurwitz Run
>Bendis Run
>Ellis, Wood, Bunn
>Lemiere

>>90572158
is there torrent for this series? what should i search for?

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And if I'm still feeling like doing a storytime after all that, I'm going to do most of the Buffy/Angel Universe of Comics. I have all of Angel: After the Fall, Buffy Season 8, 9, and 10, and Angel and Faith Season 9 + 10

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>>90578894
Tomorrow I'll upload the prior Powers comics to mediafire followed by the Spider-Series. Can't promise when but I can promise it will on my priority list.

>>90578894
There would be a complete ASM torrent out there somewhere but I'd doubt you'd find every spin off bundled in.

>>90578907
Anon, you will be a burnt out husk after all of that but fuck, power to you.

>>90578930
thanks man
>>90578951
sucks that it can't be search just with venom(year)

>>90578688
Human Fly is on the right, so is that supposed to be Megatek in the cell to Jack's right?

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>>90578987
I might take a break every 6-7 days to recharge my batteries. But I will see if I can post links to all the storytimes.

>>90578778
Credit to Bunn, he immediately started working on giving Flash a new supporting cast after Remender torched his pre-existing contacts.

I would have been okay with Katy being the new Venom. Investigative conspiracy reporting plus the symbiote could have been interesting

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>>90579099
>I would have been okay with Katy being the new Venom. Investigative conspiracy reporting plus the symbiote could have been interesting
>Fund it.

>>90579099
She probably would have been killed off panel shortly after anyway to make room for status quo.

>>90578442
>and it'll be interesting to see their reaction after they've both changed so much.
That's not how comics work. They paint to the lowest common denominator, meaning a lot of writers will write him the same as old Venom as though nothing has changed. They don't give a fuck about this "Character development"

Which is why it can only be several steps backwards

Flash Venom had to be steps forward before they Couldn't write it the old way.

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And thus we begin the final issue for the night. Not going to lie, going from Remender to Bunn certainly isn't ideal, but at least he wasn't as bad as Humphries starting out.

Also how does /co/ feel about the following writers?
>Damon Lindof
>Daniel Way
>Marjorie Liu
> Dennis Hopeless
>Joe Casey
>Ales Kot

>>90579405
Are these Kirby designs? That explains why Bunn is somehow writing Monsters Unleashed a few years later.

>>90579466
I wish I knew enough about Kirby to answer, but what is Monster's Unleashed?

>>90578716
Though he may not have been as good as Remender, it's still a shame Bunn's run got cut short. What he planned to do sounds like it would have been friggin awesome:

>There were many things I had in mind for VENOM, but I had to wrap them all up rather quickly. For instance... -- There was to be a lot more with Mania. I really wanted to show Flash trying to be a father figure for Andi and Venom trying to be a mentor for Mania. I also had a story in mind in which Toxin would try to take Mania under his wing. -- The Descent was, when originally conceived, going to be a big war in Hell kind of story, with Venom, Mania, Toxin, and the Circle of Four characters almost like a group of soldiers behind enemy lines. -- The new Anti-Venom was something I was pretty excited about. When Flash took over as Venom, there was a mention that he was not the first candidate for the symbiote... that there was another host before him. I can't remember exactly at this point, but it was almost a throw away line. My plan was to introduce that previous candidate as another symbiote-powered soldier who wanted to destroy Venom. He would become the new anti-venom. --The War of the Symbiote was supposed to be come an arc or two after the Mania arc. Basically, everyone who had ever worn the symbiote would be drawn to it (kind of a pheromone incident) and go to war to get it back. Spider-Man (then Spider-Ock), Scorpion, Eddie Brock, Flash, and anyone else. The symbiote would be jumping from person to person during this "war" and in this story Flash would have finally learned Spider-Man's identity.

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>>90579585
UGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG I WANT THIS! THis sounds like the series was just ramping up to something amazing. Still enjoyed this series more than Venom space knight but I feel I may have been overly hard on it.

>>90579099
Also credit to Bunn for creating Mania. Such a cool character. Shame she's so neglected by Marvel though. Hoping she appears in Venom, Venomverse, and other stuff.

>>90579522
Current mini event going on right now about Kirby monsters being summoned to fight space monsters. It's fun, but it released right after CW2 ended so nobody's in the mood for it.

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And thus this thread draws to a close. Tomorrow we're going to pick up with Superior SPider-Man and Avenging/Team Up by Slott and Yost respectively. After we make some headway in those series we can pick up with the Venom/Scarlet Spider crossover MINIMUM CARNAGE!!!

>>90579585
> Flash would finally learn Spider-Man's identity

I don't think Remender ever intended for those interactions between Flash and Peter to add up to anything, but that would be great payoff.

>>90577694
>I know not everyone is pleased that this thread has definitely sidetracked into non Slott territory

There is no one on this site who loves Slott that much, anon.

How would peeps describe the character differences between how Slott writes Spock and Yost writes Spock?
>I see it as Slott writes him as a villain first, hero second with Yost writing him as a hero first, villain second.

>>90579725
>MINIMUM CARNAGE!!!
Oh, boy, I'd forgotten about this. Good times ahead.

>>90586008
At the time I avoided Bunn like the plague. How was minimum carnage?

>>90586821
Pretty meh. Unlike Circle of Four it doesn't have a significant impact on Flash or Kaine, and the the ending was retconned within a year or two.

>>90586920
Well that's dissapointing. Still stoked for the thread though.

>>90579585
>The symbiote would be jumping from person to person during this "war" and in this story Flash would have finally learned Spider-Man's identity.

Honestly that would've been a good idea. I think it'd be interesting if gradually a few more people remember that Peter is Spider-Man after all the stuff that went on during Civil War and OMD.

>>90575937
>wanting to break into the comic book industry by writing capeshit
You're not very smart, are you?

>>90577095
SHUT THE FUCK UP

>>90590095
Looks little someone's a little jelly op is following his dreams

>>90590123
Anon, are you ok?

>>90591574
You say that now, but a few years from now you'll be one of the chucklefucks who enabled this hack-in-the-making, and when he's ruining Marvel or DC, I'd love to see you laugh then.

>>90590095
Indiecuck seething.

>>90594033
I don't really wanna work for DC or Marvel (I'm terrible with deadlines and I don't wanna ruin the characters I grew up with -- I don't want my fanfiction to become a part of lore). Instead, I wanna do my own stuff and self-publish or send it to third party publishers. Currently I'm Making good progress on my first set scripts for my story arc. Once I finish #8 i'm then going to have to figure out what I'm going to do about my art situation because as of right now, i only see 3 options available to me.

Option 1, learn to pencil and letter myself and pay someone else to ink and do cover art. I'm also going to have to act as my own editor but that shouldn't be too much of a problem because I'm more/less already dong that. Afterward, I have nothing to do with the artist.

Option 2, pay the artist/letterer for all the work they do (SUPER EXPENSIVE) and then when they're done have nothing to do with them.

Option 3, teamup with an artist and share the credit for the title. I maintain creative control over storylines ahd character development but they will be in charge of dictating how the world should look as well as influencing all major aesthetics found in the series. In this pairing, I'm more than willing to listen to story suggestions from the artist and will incorporate them if they are really good. Obviously most artists would rather be paid up front but they can get fucked if they think they can get anything afterward.

If anyone has other options that are available I'd really appreciate hearing them.

>>90594081
t. retard
You NEVER start with capeshit. Of course, you're probably from /tv/, so you're beyond helping now.