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Why havent you been a bachelor at 16, a soldier, an intellectual well versed in history, physics, math, chemistry, music, the literature western cannon, a popular culture critic and a novelist? What is (You)r excuse?
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>>9126674
I'm redpilled. Take your cuckoldry and shove it up your ass
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>>9126679
>implying pynchon wasnt born redpilled
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I masturbate too infrequently.

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>claims to be patrician
>hasn't read the Tunnel
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>>9126339
that feel when no epub or mobi
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>>9126339
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Everyone on /lit/ has read The Tunnel

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Is accessibility — or clarity, lucidity, whatever — an objectively positive trait in literature? If you write, do you write to be understood by as wide an audience as possible? Do you hold different opinions concerning 'accessibility' in regards to prose and poetry? Philosophy?
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>>9125617
I don't write raps anon.
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>>9125617
Let's stipulate for this question that Chomsky's main linguistic assertion is at least generally valid.

"There is a hard wired, a priori, archetypal grammar present in the human brain."

If that were true, then it must also be true that there is a prior archetypal narrative form. Abundant evidence could be collected. Across cultures and epochs, the surviving narratives share structural features, like characters, settings, action, agency for action, and motive.

If "accessibility" is at least partially defined as conforming to this global set of structural features, then avoiding or violating them seem to be motivated by restrictive, rather than expansive intentions.
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>>9125617
No, thus my veneration for Gene Wolfe, Joyce, Faulkner, whose obfuscation is art by making the reader work for meaning while still "holding all the cards" in a way that postmodern tricksters like burroughs (imma cut and paste two random pages together and pick words out of a grinder) do not - Burroughs is random bullshit (and some modern authors might be) but the guys I mention are not. Lucidity when intending to be lucid and contrapuntal and baroque excess when intending to be baroque highlights the skill of the writer. Poetry and art must maintain their self-evident stylistic identities, but essays and non-fiction such as journalism MUST be lucid and clear or they fail in their job.

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Whats the best book youve ever read?
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>>9130856
uleesses
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>>9130869
Redpill me on this, /lit/.

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my diary desu
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the bible
the death of ivan ilych
the stranger
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>>9129933
>Jesus dies
>Harry Potter dies
>Jesus is resurrected
>Harry Potter is resurrected

Is there some subtext here?

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Fuck your shitty taste /lit/. I read David foster and couldn't stand his ramblings. I read John green and couldn't stand how liberal he is. Philosophy produces absolutely nothing. Adverbs are fine. And fuck your cancer ass memes such as "TFW to intelligent" and "Is he dare I say it, our guy?"


This board is r9k as fuck
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>>9129856
actually read now
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Great thread.

If you have such absolute contempt for /lit/, why are you here?

>you right now
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Sorry faggot but I'm /biz/ and I hate reading

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Where do ideas come from? Seriously, is nobody else scared that they are not our own, but are brought into our minds at specific points in time for structure and order?
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This is a very possible concept. But it cannot be perfectly true, if you believe in a divine creator. If you believe in evil though, you can certainly see evil in aspects of life which resents anything spiritually significant.
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>Where do ideas come from?
God
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>>9129624
I don't believe in spirits or explanations rooted in dogma, though. I'm more curious as to how people discover intricate facts such as special relativity or the unconscious.

I suppose what I'm trying to ask is, are ideas something we come up with, or are they simply discovered by our efficient information processing machines?

In other words, as we evolved, our technological prowess seems to match our mental ability. To me this illustrates that it is more likely we are simply discovering planes and ovens, rather than inventing them in our minds.

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I'm on part 2 and it seems like shitposting that goes on for hundreds of pages.
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Because Pynchon is a meme writer.
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>>9129438
why do you say that? what are the shit posts?
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>>9129438
He's dogshit. College sophomore tier

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Was Sam Harris ever wrong?
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>>9128862
hehe this is funny
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>>9128862
He shouldn't have let the monkey steal his keys.
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>>9128862
tfw to smart for free will

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Hey /lit/ I'm looking for books on how to treat a woman. Aside from "like a regular human being", I mean in reference to forming a romantic relationship with a woman. Not seducing or pick up artist or other such gimmicky books. I mean books from the perspective of a single woman either in fiction or nonfiction forms. Could you help me out? Female input would be preferable.
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>>9128783
>le thinly veiled frogman thread

Schopenhauer's 'On Women', Weininger's Sex and Character lol

Take the redpill
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>>9128783
ok. ok. wow. just... ok. have you ever read any fucking books at all, period? there are probably some characters that treat women in better ways than others. oh yeah and if you're looking for female input, you're wasting your time because women are literally fucking retarded when it comes to knowing how they want to be treated, and female authors are objectively much worse.
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>>9128788
Not looking for redpill
>>9128791
I haven't read many. I'm a slow reader and Infinite Jest is long.

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How long do you think it takes to learn French from scratch to the level which enables you to read its literature and poetry?
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>>9128729
for a native English speaker? depends on your prior language learning experience and how much time you can spend, but it shouldn't take more than a few months.
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>>9128729
ok. ok. wow. just... ok. there is not a single fucking french text worth learning the entire fucking language for. in fact the translators for Proust and Flaubert (the only French writers worth a damn) are often regarded as better prose writers than Proust and Flaubert themselves. If you are going to learn a second language, as a native english speaker, just double down on english. expand your vocabulary a lot more and learn how to actually appreciate great prose by the best writers of all time - James Joyce, Shakespeare, etc. - whose prose become more and more beautiful the better you understand english. plus they are so good they make almost all other writers irrelevant.
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>>9128734
>but it shouldn't take more than a few months.
>to be able to read Zola, Balzac and others in French
are you actually kidding me?

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Thoughts on Metamodernism?

https://themetamodernist.com/2017/02/18/an-introduction-to-metamodernism/
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>Metamodernism is an emerging movement that hopes to synthesize both postmodernist, modernist and premodern (romantic, enlightenment) ideas while moving our civilization and culture forward in a positive way. Metamodernism is the fight against the cultural effects that postmodern thought has had on our social interactions, artistic endeavours and thought processes. This includes dissolving the alienation from society that many of us suffer from on a daily basis as a result of these postmodern values. Yes, it is true that many foundational institutions in our society still operate on modernist standards or using modernist methods (mostly financial or economic institutions that are yet to be affected by the creeping nihilism we intend to combat) but the cultural postmodernism and nihilism that is eating our minds alive shows no signs slowing down.
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what is /lit/ in general?
BETAMODERNISM ahahaha
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>>9128725
Why do people think you can make up cultural movements by writing manifestos

Are they stupid

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>reading a book
>the editor has purged it of any trace of Oxford Comma

It's just so easy on the eyes to not have to mentally filter that punctuation error out.
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>it's a let's find the grammar autistics who want to argue about this yet again episode
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>>9128400
The Oxford comma is indefensible. Grammar autists stand united on this topic, it's used as a pleb filter to expose the uneducated.
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"You look like you buy used paperbacks"
How would you ever recover if someone blew you the FUCK out in real life like this? Suicide?
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>>9128166
They'd be right.
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>>9128166
what's wrong with used paperbacks?
do you even read the books you own?
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Every book is a used book once you've read it

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Pic related is the longest novel ever written.

Marienbad My Love by Mark Leach

17,836,188 words

There goes my ambition to write the longest book. Fuck this guy.
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Isn't there some autist who wrote an even longer super smash bros fanfic?
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17 million words and nothing of value
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>>9128128
No, that was just over 1 million words. This is 17 times longer.

>>9128132
How do you know? Have you read it? Or do you only value unread books providing the Jewish publishing industry has told you to do so?

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