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I read a poem today that you might appreciate.

Elegy for Minor Poets, by Louis MacNeice


Who often found their way to pleasant meadows
Or maybe once to a peak, who saw the Promised Land,
Who took the correct three strides but tripped their hurdles,
Who had some prompter they barely could understand,
Who were too happy or sad, too soon or late,
I would praise these in company with the Great;

For if not in the same way, they fingered the same language
According to their lights. For them as for us
Chance was a coryphaeus who could be either
An angel or an ignis fatuus.
Let us keep our mind open, our fingers crossed;
Some who go dancing through dark bogs are lost.

Who were lost in many ways, through comfort, lack of knowledge,
Or between women’s breasts, who thought too little, too much,
Who were the world’s best talkers, in tone and rhythm
Superb, yet as writers lacked a sense of touch,
So either gave up or just went on and on–
Let us salute them now their chance is gone;

And give the benefit of the doubtful summer
To those who worshipped the sky but stayed indoors
Bound to a desk by conscience or by the spirit’s
Hayfever. From those office and study floors
Let the sun clamber on to the notebook, shine,
And fill in what they groped for between each line.
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Who were too carefree or careful, who were too many
Though always few and alone, who went the pace
But ran in circles, who were lamed by fashion,
Who lived in the wrong time or the wrong place,
Who might have caught fire had only a spark occurred,
Who knew all the words but failed to achieve the Word–

Their ghosts are gagged, their books are library flotsam,
Some of their names–not all–we learnt in school
But, life being short, we rarely read their poems,
Mere source-books now to point or except a rule,
While those opinions which rank them high are based
On a wish to be different or on lack of taste.

In spite of and because of which, we later
Suitors to their mistress (who, unlike them, stays young)
Do right to hang on the grave of each a trophy
Such as, if solvent, he would himself have hung
Above himself; these debtors preclude our scorn–
Did we not underwrite them when we were born?
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>>9133716
holy fuck, Pepe the /r9k/ frog of virginity is utterly destroyed emotionally! :((
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Thank you

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What kind of pet is best for a musician? One that acts as both companion and inspiration.

I was thinking of some kind of hunting dog.
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>>9133697
>musician
Writer, fuck. First step, write writer when you intend to.
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A large parrot that makes screeching sounds incessantly.
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Low quality bait but I think you really did your best effort here.

>just find out about Hitchens and his memes
>reaize he's dead and had a very sad and public death
>now I'm sad and still catching up

can you guys fill me in about interesting stuff/people that is discontinued or dead. I'm tired of finding out about cool things and realizing their finished forever.
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Mate most people are dead
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>>9133676
recent people, my dude
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>>9133666
Realize that Peter Hitchens is the greatest intellectual currently alive

He is virtuous as all Hell, would never accept tattoos or piercings, drugs, promiscuity, or interracial marriage.

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Can I get a quick rundown on the Karamazovs?
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They're bros.
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Their dad is a dick.
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>>9133611
I lol'd. Now, back to your containment board, memelord.

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Has there ever been anything so servile and pathetic in the history of literature than the book of job?

Inb4 manga......comics aren't literature
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>>9133532
It's the greatest if you're a Christian atheist like me

>t. Zizek
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That's a good book.
I mean, where else can you find anything so seriously interpreted about a bet between god and satan?

Also, I love the way god goes "here, have new children" by the end. Just like that.
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>>9133532
the wisdom literature is great, pleb

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Are there any truly useful books on the subject of concentration and how to improve your focus?
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Meditate.
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Gorilla Mindset
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>>9133436
Is meditation really beneficial? I've heard mixed things about its usefulness. I've tried it myself, though possibly not for very long, and it didn't seem to provide much improvement.

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I'm an art history major and I know in about two years time I will need to read:

Das Kapital
Theodor Adorno
Walter Bejamin

My friends told me Benjamin's writings are more or less comprehensible on their own but what about the other two?

What pre-requisite readings do I need? I would like to start working up to them now.
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>>9133298
Marx doesn't *require* (emphasis here so someone doesn't crucify me with "dude he's flipping Hegel") any prereqs, and depends on which texts by Adorno---for example, "Notes to Literature" can be read outright, but "Dialectic of Enlightenment?"Nietzsche, Freud, Marx, Weber, a robust understanding of Western intellectual history, etc.
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>>9133298
I'll let these /pol/ comments redpill you:

>Pederasty is Frankfurt School Marxist invention. The Jewish Frankfurt School was organized with the goal of deconstructing Western Civilization through the usage of made up pseudo-Theories and what they labeled as "Critiques". In other words, you're regurgitating anti-West hate speech.
> This sort of plan would take a generation or 2 and it should have been implemented long ago the same way the frankfurt school convinced western civilization it was normal to accept niggers and faggots into their society.
>the destruction of the family through feminism, and the encouragement of atheism were both aims of the cultural marxism of the frankfurt school. which was a jewish plot
>DEATH TO THE FRANKFURT SCHOOL AND ITS FOLLOWERS !
>The jewish question is actually true, explaining how they were behind the Frankfurt School which spawned the critical theory that destroyed the family and other moral values
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>>9133298
if >>9133349 sounds like paranoid bs to you, congratulations on not being insane.

w/r/t your question, why do you want to read Capital? it's a big boring economics textbook. you'll probably get more out of an anthology if you're coming at Marx cold. no comment on the other two dudes.

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We vaguely describe a book, and other anons try to guess it

>english sailor becomes first weaboo ever
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>>9133130
Fuck off anime shitter
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>>9133144
lolwut
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>>9133151
You watch anime, don't you? Disgusting piece of shit

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Hello /lit/, i need help creating this sonnet about cars that i need for English class, i tried doing it myself but its just not clicking.
Any help??!
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>>9133026
What do you have so far?
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>>9133030
OP
Not much, i'm not even too sure about it.

As it started my heart began to race
I slammed it in drive and pressed the pedal
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>>9133026
bump

How do people remember books they have read? When I think back to something like the count of monte cristo, it's just a big fucking blur. Is enjoyment at the time of reading the only thing that matters?
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>>9132967
What a dumb couple of questions
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>>9132967
>I cannot remember the books I've read any more than the meals I have eaten; even so, they have made me.

Really makes you think
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I have a pretty good memory. It's been a few years since I read the Count but I remember it well. For some reason the first character that comes to mind when I think of it is Luigi Vampa.

>when you realise that pretty much every great thinker would think that society you live in is criminally insane and that you personally are a piece of malformed degenerate trash
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Religion and The Medievals saved me in the end though
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>>9132901
>implying
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that's a pathological reality tunnel you're in there, bro

>study metaphysics
>social suicide commences
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>>9132758
It's a lonely world. But it colors the rest of it.
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>>9132758
>Has had sex
>with a female (female)
>complains about the world
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>>9134087
Shut up, virgin. Your thoughts don't count, because they are obviously being weeded out of our evolutionary trajectory.

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Pynchon, Salinger, Hemingway, etc.
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>>9132706
Roth, Delillo, McCarthy, Gaddis, Faulkner, Carver, the list goes on
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>>9132706
They're shit. Your best work of literature was written by Russian. Not that English are much better, theirs were written by Polack and Irelander, but they at least hove some chicks and glovesalesmens child right after them, therefore they are superior.
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>>9132725
>an Irish guy is English

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ITT post your dad's favorite author
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>>9132643
Stephen King and Dean Koontz
No bully pls.
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>>9132643
>tfw dad doesn't read but just sits and watches Hitler/WW2/history channel shit all day
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what is the literary equivalent of this album?
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>>9132418
John Green
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Moby Dick

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