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What do you guys think about him?
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>>2947073

Why do you think that I should know who some random dude is if you dont even state his fucking name?
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>>2947073
He's just your typical Self hating Arab Christian
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>>2947073
typical loud, fractious carpet merchant. His race is a poor fit to be an anglo judge, but make for excellent twitter banter. In general, people from the Levant are hilarious for feuding and chimping, and if they aren't muslim they are clever enough for it to be entertaining.

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What did Plutarch mean by this /his/?
>But you who live now, what madness, what frenzy drives you to the pollution of shedding blood, you who have such a superfluity of necessities? Why slander the earth by implying that she cannot support you? Why impiously offend law-giving Demeter and bring shame upon Dionysus, lord of the cultivated vine, the gracious one, as if you did not receive enough from their hands? Are you not ashamed to mingle domestic crops with blood and gore? You call serpents and panthers and lions savage, but you yourselves, by your own foul slaughters, leave them no room to outdo you in cruelty; for their slaughter is their living, yours is a mere appetizer.
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>>2946997
stop making war
my interpretation: you have enough, stop trying to satisfy your insecurity by controlling others
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>>2946997
He means stop hurting other people because you want something from the gods, but given the culture and society he lived in, it's likely Plutarch was a retard that didn't understand that people did what they felt they had to do.
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>>2946997

The Late Middle Ages were quite violent.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crisis_of_the_Late_Middle_Ages

Lots of people say it was caused by the fall of morals of Romans, rise of decadence etc. I know it was actually combination of more things, but i curious if there are any parallels between then and now. Are there any contemporary works specifically complaining about this?
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>I know it was actually combination of more things
You were there?
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WRE fell because it couldn't stop having civil wars.

It was the only reason, unless modern society is plagued with civil war and I've not noticed then we're fine.
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>>2946965
>Lots of people say it was caused by the fall of morals of Romans, rise of decadence etc.
Thats a fun way to spell Christianity. Romans becoming softy christcucks is what caused the empire to fold.

Ways you can tell someone knows nothing about American history.

I'll start
>they think the Alamo is relevant outside of the state of Texas
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>George Washington was a liar and chopped down lots of cherry trees.

Am I doing this right?
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>>2946804
>American
>history
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>>2946804

>they think America has history

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Weebish question, so sorry if that's frowned upon here but a thought just hit me as I was watching something: were swords actually passed down through lineage and used in combat/sport frequently? After a long enough period of time wouldn't the sword become incredibly fragile and ineffective due to being clashed for multiple generations?
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>>2946651
I'l just guess you've watched game of thrones and are reffering to european medieval times. In that case you need to rethink of what those swords were - you could cut with them, but you wouldn't use them. They were family heirlooms, ceremonial weapons that the nobles would hang on their walls and wear at coronations and all that shit. They're no different from scepters, jewelry and crowns - you'd wear them to look cool next to other nobles, not to fight enemies. They'd be passed down and taken from one dynasty to another but it really didn't make any difference in combat, where the nobles would get the most expensive and practical arms, armor and horses to ensure they could beat the average sir knight.
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>>2946692
Ah thank you, game of thrones was part of my inspiration but it was an anime that did some ridiculous katana stunt that brought it to the forefront of my mind.

I figured they would be treated as you described but everything I've seemed elsewhere made them look as if they had some practical battle usage

Thanks for clearing this up man.
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>>2946706
No problem, keep in mind game of thrones is fantasy and most of the shit that's shown there doesn't represent actual medieval society. In feudal japan things might be different with ceremonial weapons, I really don't know much about it though.

This might be a weird question but, does anyone know if there's any big indigenous religions or mytholgies in Africa on the level of the Greco-Roman, I realized I know nothing of Africa's myths and monsters. Here's a pic of a qt in return
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>>2946359

Best bets are Igbo stuff, maybe Bantu mythology, Swahili things etc. I don't know too much about African mythology myself. I remember easing that Neolithic myths were fairly uniform across the globe though. Africa, Europe and Asia each sort of converge mythological U once you reach a certain point in time
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>>2946359
Egyptian mythology
Phoenicians /carthaginian myth are probably close and share the same root with hellenic - Mesopotamian myths
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The Ottoman Empire in 1517 AD against the Roman Empire in 500 AD.

Fight.
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The Ottoman Empire crashes the Romans
How is that evena question?
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Rooman empire conquered Britain, British empire conquered the ottomans

QED
Rome wins
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Ottomans have a 1000 years advantage in technology

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what's /his/'s view on modern reconstructed versions of ancient polytheistic religions? (Asatru/Heathenry for the Germanics, Hellenismos for the Greeks, Cultus Deorum for the Romans, etc.)

Are these attempts at reconstruction ultimately pointless? Do any of them even look remotely similar to their ancient forms?
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It's misguided LARPing.

>>2946230
>Are these attempts at reconstruction ultimately pointless?
Pretty much. They're religions that have been dead for a long time, and nothing was left to indicate exactly how they worked. Religions are very intricate systems, and a rough description by a Christian monk about how the locals are dumb isn't going to give you the details you need to reconstruct a complicated system that was also interwoven with society as a whole.

>Do any of them even look remotely similar to their ancient forms?
Technically speaking, there's no way to tell. But from what we do know, absolutely not. And it's not really possible for them to resemble their historical forms without a complete social integration. A good example is with Wiccans and other Celtic Neopagans; without Druids as a separate, and secretive, priestly caste, there's no way the religion would be able to operate anything like what we know about it historically.
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>>2946632
agreed on pretty much all accounts. though as one involved in reconstructionist heathenry, it's pretty unfortunate. to me at least, there's a lot of admirable aspects to these historical belief systems.
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>>2946632
This.
Also don't forget that for many religions, including the Nordic, the accounts were written by Christians trying to denounce those religions. It's especially true for asatru which are essentially shitty action heroes without any spirituality. Amon Amarth fans with obese girlfriends don't care about that.

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Bactri comes to mind.

No one ever talks about it, but it was an awesome culture clash between India and the Hellenic world. It's possible that these dudes even made the first statues of Buddha.

Post neat kingdoms that rarely get the spotlight
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The nuragic are pretty neat-o I guess
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The Khwarizmian Dynasty. They were descended from a slave who was made a commander, and ruled almost all of Iran and Central Asia only 150 years later. However, they're only known for having an idiot vizier who pissed off the entire Mongol army and got them erased from history.
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I like the Mound Builders. Not necessarily a kingdom per se, but you've probably heard about the Cahokia mounds.

At its peak, it had about 100,000 people living in about a 6.5 square mile area. They've found things like a sacrificial grave of 300 women. Things like what appears to be a 45 year old ruler buried with like 30,000 shell beads. At least 4 sun calendars.

The real weird thing about it is that this place would have most certainly been the biggest indian city probably in all of America, and yet not a single nearby tribe has a story or oral tradition about it. No one remembers it/they specifically choose not to remember it on purpose, indicating something pretty terrible happened to it.

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General Latin learning/translation thread

I'm in Wheelock's Latin learner, and I don't quite get this couplet:
"Non cenat sine apro noster, Tite, Caecilianus;
Bellum convivam caecilianus habet"
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Unrelated retarded question. Why do Spanish speakers call Sulla ''Sila''? What the fuck, you're the romance speakers here.
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>>2946268
Names are a weird subject in languages. It would seem logical to just pronounce them the same in all languages but shit happens and "John" in Italian is "Giovanni"
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>>2945981
"He doesn't dine without our wild boar, Titus Caecilianus; Caecilianus has war as a guest."

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Modern US military vs. The Entire World War 2 Armada (including the United States)

Could the US military take them on in a conventional war? No nukes on either side of course.

If modern USA wins, would they still win if Vietnam from the Vietnam War era entered the war and join the World War 2 Armada?
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>>2945870
>modern planes and drones vs WW2 shit
Modern US no contest. The drones alone could eliminate artillery and infantry BTFOing WW2.
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>>2945870
Most likely, also i assume you mean the entire armies, not their navies, armada means navy.

Also the Vietnamese army, assuming you just mean the North Vietnamese army, was not all that strong, the U.S. would've ass blasted them in a "fair" war, but they used guerrilla warfare against us, as well as the Vietcong, and the South Vietnamese incompetence.
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>>2945870
They would steamroll everyone who participated in WW2 at the peak of their strength.
They might lose in a war of attrition if "Vietnam" includes the US forces in Vietnam as well as the Vietkong.

I'm trying to make a history club.

Is this "start with the greeks" thing just a meme or good advice?

Can I actually use this picture as a lesson plan?
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>>2945844
Yes. How can you use it you haven't done it?
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>>2945849
>Can I actually use this picture as a lesson plan?
>Yes. How can you use it you haven't done it?

w-what?
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>>2945844
Eh, Personally ive found the greeks a bit dry, but if you cover a few of the more interesting topics like Diogenes, It's definitely a starting point; but be sure to spice it up with anything but poetry and philosophy.

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Why were medieval armies in Europe so small?
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>>2945535
Because they had a small population.
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>>2945535
Black plague took out 1/3 of Europe and they where under constant attack by invaders
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>>2945535
The economy didn't produce enough surplus to equip large groups of men to do kill each other with no productive benefit. Its only with industrialisation that armies started growing.
At the beginning of the 18th century Louis XIV's army was considered huge at 200,000 men out of a population of 20 million, in world war one they mobilised they mobilised 8 million out of a population of 40 million.

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Are Magyars the true master race?


>genetic ties to the Mongol Empire
>genetic ties to the Hunnic Empire
>somehow completely white
>not shit tier slavs

Am I missing anything?
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>>>/pol/
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>>2945532
BTFO by G*rmans
BTFO by Mongols
BTFO by Ottomans
BTFO by Habsburgs
BTFO by Russians
BTFO (again) by Russians
BTFO (haha again!) by Russians
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One of the most beautiful cam girls i'd ever seen was half-Russian, half-Hungarian.

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i'm really wanting to learn about all sorts of aspects of history, if possible, as much of the history of the world as can be
i have decent enough general knowledge and college education in specific areas of history but am feeling quite overwhelmed by the sheer mass of information at my fingertips, and how to approach reading it in a way that maximises understanding
this probably sounds like the idealistic impractical ramblings of a young person, and i can understand that and this isn't asking for a how to history 101 or anything, i'm interested in your stories of how you got into history, what paths you took, whether you chose certain aspects or had aspirations of learning as much as possible?
any feedback is much appreciated
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At the start, of course
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>>2944697
Start with Sanskrit and just read everything ever written from there. Maybe try audiobooks.
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>>2945102
bretty gud

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