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Should 4th edition have been given more of a chance?
Putting the whole "not muh 3.x" shitstorm aside, in retrospect I can't help but feel that the main reason for 4e's failure was that it was simply given up on far too quickly. Between the panic move that was Essentials (who the fuck thought that the problem with 4e was that it was TOO HARD?), the clusterfuck that was the Insider platform and the almost complete lack in third party representation (where are my 4e video games?), 4e was doomed to fail. And it couldn't even succeed as a slow burner, because within 5 years after launch, 5e (or "Next") was already announced.
I mean sure, I get it. Mechanically speaking, 4e wasn't what many 3.x players wanted, because what they wanted was simply a less fucked up version of 3.x. But I still think 4e could have been, and in many ways really is, a valuable sidegrade option for people looking for a more balanced and tactical approach to combat, while still maintaining much of the flavor options that make it a viable fit for just about any setting you'd otherwise use 3.x for. And now that we have 5e as a "proper" successor to 3.x that just makes 4e even more valuable because the people that wanted a new 3.x now actually have it.
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>>55022859
>Should 4th edition have been given more of a chance?
No.
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4e is absolutely the best version of D&D. The only valid argument is the claim that one might not like the focus on combat, in which case you really shouldn't be playing D&D at all. You never see that levied in a level headed way though; It's grognards and fucking morons all the way down. So yes, it's a shame that we got the regressive garbage that is 5th edition and that the huge steps forward that 4th made are lost.
It got a very substantial amount of content ultimately though. I'm more than content with everything that exists and just ignoring the essentials Heroes books. It definitely got it's "chance," but people just have bad taste, are adverse to change, and have generally misguided perceptions of what they want from tabletop games.
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>>55022918
>It definitely got it's "chance,"
It only got a couple of years, half of which involved the awful Essentials line and Wizards assfucking their entire online platform.
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Player gripes thread. 2017-08-23 03:59:37 Post No.55022724
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We had some DM ones, let's do it from the other side of the screen.
>One particular GM with homebrew setting.
>Actually kind of neat when you get into it, but he plays with the usual fantasy tropes of heavenly beings.
>Angels serve gods. Good gods have good angels, neutral gods have neutralish angels, evil gods have evil angels.
>Angels are a kind of immortal spirit doing immortal spirit things most of the time.
>They can, however "fall". Falling has nothing to do with morals or ethics, they LoTR like incarnate into a body, trading away their immortality for a greater ability to act in the material world. The process is one way and irreversible. But a good fallen angel is still good, and an evil fallen angel is still evil.
>This is separate from demons, who nobody, not even the gods know much about, and seem to be spirits of chaos and destruction that were around since day 1.
I don't have a problem with any of the above. But he never actually explains any of it, and just gets irritated with people who don't keep up with his personal definitions; I only got what I greentexted by months of sessions with him and puzzling it out.
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>Haha I didn't even plan that session AT ALL, did you even notice?
Yes. Yes I did notice. It was very obvious.
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>>55022724
>DM asks for a wishlist of items from the party
>never gives anyone an item from their wishlist
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Honestly I love my group and my DM. No gripes here
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>tfw he only wanted to tell her "good bye"...
Saddest flavor text/piece of lore in MTG?
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>>55022520
might help if ya posted it lol
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>>55022548
>Titan
>Not 6/6 for 6CMC
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Runewars Miniatures Game 2017-08-23 03:24:58 Post No.55022334
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What went right? What went wrong?
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>right
Mass infantry battle with x wing rules for normalfags.
>wrong
Ffg.
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>>55022334
>Movement templates
>Multiple types of proprietary polyhedral dice
These things automatically make me not play a game.
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>>55022527
this
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Sup guys
I've hit a bit of a snag in my games recently. Combat has turned into boring turns of "I roll to hit" for every encounter and dungeons have turned lackluster and boring. Anyone have any tips out there for making combat and dungeons more interesting? I've recently started a new game with my group and I want to make this game interesting again.
Also dungeon inspiration thread
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>>55021674
Include environmental elements in combat. Think about vidya boss battles where you have to do other tasks while in combat, like dodging falling rocks, breaking urns to break protection spells, avoiding parts of the floor in case they collapse. Make your players utilise other skills and stats while in battle.
Make sure your major encounters are difficult enough to keep a sense of high stakes and danger but not so difficult that players are too afraid to spend a turn doing something interesting that might work over just whaling in and doing damage.
When you're implementing regular enemies give them abilities other than hitting and being hit. Players can't just roll to hit if their weapons have become red hot or temporarily possessed.
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>>55021674
http://theangrygm.com/
the angry GM blog has a lot of good advice on designing dungeons and encounters, it's all based on D&D but as long as the system you're using is that or reasonably close, it's really good advice
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>>55022045
Ive had a lot of inspiration from dark souls for past dungeons so I've been trying to return to that a bit to make them more interesting. The next dungeon I have planned is a sunken temple that's also an aboleth's lair that the party has to explore while it's not there so those environmental factors should make it a bit more interesting, with the entire temple being difficult terrain basically.
The problem is the d&d monster manual doesn't have much for interesting fights at lower levels imo. My party is currently level 3 and there's not much I can throw at them
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I am using d&d so I'll be sure to take a look at that, thanks anon!
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Does magic slow down technological development or accelerate it?
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>>55020807
Depends on the setting.
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>>55020822
Has there ever been a more consistently correct answer?
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>>55020807
The biggest asset to human development is the internet.
With quick communication, we have reached exponential growth.
If magic grants quick communication, then sure
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>Air: Chaotic Good
>Water: Neutral Good
>Earth: True Neutral
>Fire: Chaotic Evil
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>>55020348
>Air: True neutral
>Water: True Neutral
>Earth: True Neutral
>Fire: True Neutral
Nature is True Neutral and it can't be any other way
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>>55020386
If you use fire magic/anything fire-related in cobat or elsewhere there's a 120% chance you're either evil or a chaotic retard.
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>>55020348
>>55020386
>Not using superior 5 element system:
Void/spirit/aether: Neutral
Water : Neutral Good.
Fire: Neutral Evil.
Earth: Lawful Neutral
Air: Chaotic Neutral
Under this system, Lawful Good can be seen as a mixture of Earth and Water (which suits their reputation for stasis and lack of innovation) while Chaotic Evil would be the Fire/Air mix of wildfire (mindless destruction), with CG and LE being similar mixtures.
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How do we make elves cool again?
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>>55020128
But elves are still cool.
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>>55020128
You shouldn't.
The defining characteristic of elves in any setting is that they're fundamentally uncool, existing only to be put in their place by better races.
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I want to be crushed by those thighs
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>one of the PCs decides to roll up a female character
>has no charisma and cant even sell a passing illusion of femininity
>sex of character has next to no impact on how they perceive the world
>"teehee"
I suspect that he's utilizing this as some sort of wish fulfillment schtick. Has anyone ever had a good experience with Males creating Female PCs and vice-versa? Or is it universally a shit decision?
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>>55019046
>We created a word for a specific kind of roleplay
What's next? A word for not playing a fat socially-impaired human?
>Has anyone ever had a good experience with Males creating Female PCs and vice-versa?
Anytime I played with non-spergs (that is all the time) that know their own roleplay skills
>Or is it universally a shit decision?
Only if you're a/playing with spergs
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>>55019082
was going to post my own reply about my experiences seeing this sort of thing in my group, but this post gets the basic message across better.
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>>55019046
Takes practice to git gud senpai.
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Many of us know of this problem, have a group which has good dynamics, introduce a girl to the group and the chemistry changes for the worse, as multiple people who are usually fine change their behavior and become more quiet, or obnoxious.
What is the solution?
Having a girl join the group and hoping the other players "get back to normal"?
Ban girls from joining a group?
Some kind of other solution?
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There are two easy solutions
>quit playing with sperglords
And
>if she flirts, she has to put out.
There, problem solved.
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>>55017668
dont be idiots and get rid of people you dont like, screw manners
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Will the mods clean up /tg/ and ban shitposters just like they did on /a/? I sure hope so.
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WIP - Work in Progress General
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The old thread was on page 11 edition
>Citadel Painting Guides:
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>Figure painter magazine issues 1-36
https://mega.nz/#F!0AIGDAxL!xOT6MK3oiGpBB1pQaNy5lg
>Paint range compatibility chart across manufacturers
http://www.dakkadakka.com/wiki/en/Paint_Range_Compatibility_Chart
>Painting Videos only
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>DIY Lightbox
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyxzC5kqbyw
>DIY Spraybooth
http://www.starshipmodeler.com/tech/pa_booth.htm
>DIY Wet Palette
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96mjmqWTPfM
>How to Moldlines
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4LZ8iCSkeU
>Fuckin Magnets how do they work?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8Tkw7ttTIo
http://www.miniwargaming.com/magnet-guide
http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/297605-tutorial-magnetisation/
>List of mini manufacturers for converting and proxy
http://pastebin.com/p6bVhGsg
>Stripping Paint (yes, the ellipses are part of the URL!)
http://www.dakkadakka.com/wiki/en/Dakka_Modeling_FAQ:_How_to_Strip...
>Priming With Acrylic Gesso
https://www.dakkadakka.com/wiki/en/Priming_With_Acrylic_Gesso
>Green Stuff Casting
http://fromthewarp.blogspot.com/2011/11/molding-and-casting-shoulderpads.html
http://masteroftheforge.com/2012/05/21/rubber-molds-green-stuff/
http://masteroftheforge.com/2012/07/17/green-stuff-cast-shoulder-pad/
>On the consequences of insufficient ventilation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronic_solvent-induced_encephalopathy
http://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/indg273.pdf
>This planet is ours, witch!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_b-qBTul44
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>I forgot the previous thread >>54996737
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How's my sorceror? Decided to try watercolors.
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>>55017000
Put some mk 3 marine legs together and glued them to the base. These mold lines are a bitch.
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Starfinder General /sfg/ 2017-08-23 06:26:03 Post No.55016861
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Starfinder General /sfg/
What's your Icon like? You're not silly enough to make them a weak envoy or solarian, are you?
Pastebin (Includes CRB): https://pastebin.com/6HjrnNZG
Cheatsheet: http://paizo.com/paizo/blog/v5748dyo5lk2n?Starfinder-Cheat-Sheet
FAQ: http://paizo.com/starfinder/faq
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>>55016861
I've made a dex/cha Android/Operative/Icon Spy build.
Good luck beating my bluff, I'm clearly just here to perform my songs~
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Which race is/or will become the kitsune of /sfg/?
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>>55017305
Shirren clearly.
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Pathfinder General /pfg/ 2017-08-23 04:14:24 Post No.55015327
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Pathfinder General /pfg/
Regret Edition:
When was the last time your character came to regret one of her actions? How did she resolve this inner conflict? Did she ever make amends?
/pfg/ Link Repository: https://pastebin.com/JLu5xXML
Current Playtests: https://pastebin.com/quSzkadj
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I'm so mad that I have died the most out of my whole party.
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PoW Discipline Errata When?
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>>55015327
The most recent time?
He charged straight into a dragon's jaws like a God at the end of the world, and got dragged down from his horse. But that was pretty much just bad luck.
The thing that was entirely his own fault was trying to calm people down by yelling at them really loud. Sounded really good in his head, but that clearly doesn't work out so well in real life, as opposed to in a play.
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Stat me, /tg/
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>>55015184
Nah, I don't think so.
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STR: 16
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>>55015232
>STR: 16
God no
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Ideas for characters you're not sure are good or bad. 2017-08-23 02:30:36 Post No.55014004
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Ideas for characters you're not sure are good or bad.
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>Druid dedicated to balance between law and chaos, but his order does not see good and evil as quantifiable concepts requiring balance, so he tries to be as good as possible
>Westaboo samurai who refused to commit a massacre on orders of his daimyo, fled to the West where he marvels at the relative cultural diversity and technological progress, and looks back upon his home country with disappointment and sadness
>Blackguard who seeks atonement for his sins, utilizing dark power to do so; his god keeps trying to tell him that he's already earned it, he can stop being edgy now, you earned redemption after the first twelve towns you saved, goddammit
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>necromancer who keeps raising the dead to fight off an evil wizard because he thinks the evil wizard "is a dick" and no other reason
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>>55014004
>Human body builder pugilist who is earning money for his adoptive half orc sister by traveling from town to town to make money for her (occasionally doing performance art flexing for show). Kind of dim and impulsive, despite being supremely committed to his sister's well-being.
>Dwarf cook who is committed to uncover new recipes by sampling different monsters of the lands. favours brandishing an oversized butcher knife he obtained from an ogre during a cooking competition that turned violent. Dislikes drink with food because it masks true flavour.
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>>55014550
not supposed to be serious, really, its just a dude who is immature and uses his powers in an immature manner, that shit might happen