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Reminder that reading books is like knowing how much money is in the pocket of the writer. You might measure it in infinite ways, but you cant use it yourself.
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This is not as clever as you imagined.
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what
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books are like frisbees

Has anyone read this? It has 4.15 on Goodreads... I don't understand how someone having the word 'ego' in the title of his book can also have such a retardedly undefined idea of what the word really means...the premise of the book is that consciousness and self-esteem is "the enemy," but as you read it, you'll find every conclusion drawn on this premise contradicts it...

4 point fucking 15....
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>>9662366
Its author is one of those improveyouareselfyoutuber so Im not even slightly surprised
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>Goodreads

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If you had to advice a list of the books that everyone must read before dying, fiction, history, culture, etc...
And please, explain your choices
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Your diary tbqh
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Start with the Greeks.
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fiction: book of the new sun

history: olmstead - history of the persian empire

culture: use of weapons. the entire series is mediocre sociology hippy tripe though

my explanation: because i picked them xDDD

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>>9662337
not necessarily
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It's English philosophy, man. It's not difficult. Read whatever the fuck you want, you'll get it either way.
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>>9662337
A sensible reader would rather read Eubulides, Swedenborg, Malebranche, Hrabanus, Fichte, Ptolemy, Bobbio, Kierkegaard, Debord, Marcuse, Kropotkin, Albert Caraco, Habermas, Klages, Adorno, Dio Chrysostom, Schleiermacher, Iamblichus, Zabarella, Robert Grosseteste, Urs von Balthasar, Giordano Bruno, Eusebius Pamphili, Al-Farabi, Pomponazzi, Anaximander, Helvétius, Leibniz, Gómez Dávila, Jacobi, Lacan, Rehmke, Sloterdijk, Mimnermus, Polycarp, Ellul, Agamben, Rashi, Condillac, Didymus the Blind, Popper, Foucault, Leonardo Polo, Boethius, Wronski, John Capreolus, Aeneas of Gaza, Tartaglia, Simone Weil, Proclus, Bourdieu, Abhinavagupta, Müntzer, Leo Strauss, Weininger, Shaftesbury, Géraud de Cordemoy, Merleau-Ponty, Roscellinus, Jouffroy, Sanjaya Belatthiputta, Paul Rée, Jaspers, Ortega y Gasset, Tertullian, Hayek, Stumpf, Gracián, Bossuet, Africano Spir, Descartes, Spengler, Brentano, Liu Yiming, Vico, Aristippus, Lavater, Shemariah of Negropont, Maupertuis, Kojève, Gassendi, Wundt, Žižek, Louis de Bonald, Gagliardi, Duns Scotus, Erving Goffman, Novalis, Thucydides, Justin Martyr, Cioran, Walter Benjamin, Dühring, Dugin, Sozomen, Apringius, Basedow, Pareto, Buridan, Teilhard de Chardin, Alcidamas and Feuerbach before even hoping to grasp this masterful book.

>by definition there is no suffering in heaven
>no suffering for citizens in Brave New World

Is that book a glimpse of heaven, /lit/?
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>>9662197
it's a dystopian novel pleb
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>>9662306
Its utopian you faker
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>>9662197
There is no suffering except for when you are out of soma for 5 minutes

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anons, who've read the Iliad, what's your favorite part
>song of partoclus
>achilles sadness and rage over partoclus
>when hector's father comes to achilles, and they dine and talk about mortal man's fate
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Really liked the part when Ulysses and Diomedes sneaked around at night, interrogated the Trojan spy and sacked the Thracian camp
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The part where Achilles is a whining bitch
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>>9662132
I know I've read it, because I had to write essays on it about 4 years ago, but for the life of me I can't remember anything about it at all. Is something wrong with me?

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What the fuck.
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I liked it. Imo better than the road.
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I'm glad that I'm too smart to fall for the Comarc McSharty meme
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Oh god they made more than one in that style?

Whatever graphic design company got paid for this deserves to be burnt to the ground.

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I'm taking three subjects this year. This is the required reading:

Literature

>Homer, Iliad, Robert Fagles, trans. (Penguin)
>Homer, Odyssey, Robert Fagles, trans. (Penguin)
>Aeschylus, Oresteia, Alan Shapiro and Peter Burian, trans. (The Complete Aeschylus, Vol. 1, Oxford)
>Sophocles, Antigone, Reginald Gibbons and Charles Segal, trans. (in The Complete Sophocles, Vol. 1, Oxford)
>Euripides, Bacchae, Reginald Gibbons and Charles Segal, trans. (in The Complete Euripides, Vol. 4, Oxford)
>Virgil, Aeneid, Robert Fitzgerald, trans. (Vintage Classics)
>Ovid, Metamorphoses, David Raeburn, trans. (Penguin)
>The Jewish Study Bible: Jewish Publication Society TANAKH Translation (Oxford) recommended to purchase; photocopies of assigned passages will be made available.
>The New Oxford Annotated Bible, augmented fourth edition (Oxford)
>Dante, Divine Comedy, 3 vols., Allen Mandelbaum, trans. (Bantam Classics)
>Petrarch, Rime Sparse, trans. Robert Durling (Harvard)
>Cervantes, Don Quixote, trans. Edith Grossman (HarperCollins)
>Shakespeare, The Tragedy of King Lear (Cambridge)
>Milton, Paradise Lost (Hackett)
>Goethe, Faust, Part One, trans. David Luke (Oxford)
>Wordsworth, Selected Poetry of W. Wordsworth, edited, Mark Van Doren (Modern Library)
>Tolstoy, War and Peace, trans. Richard Pevear and Larissa Volokhonsky (Knopf)
>Flaubert, Madame Bovary, trans. Geoffrey Wall (Penguin)
>Proust, Swann in Love in Remembrance of Things Past: Volume 1, trans. C.K. Scott Moncrieff/Terence
>Kilmartin (Vintage)
>Woolf, To the Lighthouse (Houghton)

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Philosophy

>Plato, Complete Works, edited by John Cooper (Hackett)
>Parmenides, Fragments (copies to be distributed)
>Aristotle, A New Aristotle Reader, edited by J. L. Ackrill (Princeton)
>The Epicurus Reader, translated and edited by Brad Inwood and Lloyd P. Gerson (Hackett)
>Epictetus, The Handbook (The Encheiridion), translated by Nicholas P. White (Hackett)
>Sextus Empiricus, Outlines of Scepticism, translated by Julia Annas and Jonathan Barnes (Cambridge)
>Augustine, On Free Choice of the Will, translated by Thomas Williams (Hackett)
>Classical Arabic Philosophy, edited by Jon McGinnis and David C. Reisman (Hackett)
>Anselm, Proslogion, with the Replies of Gaunilo and Anselm, translated by Thomas Williams (Hackett)
>Aquinas, from Summa Theologiae (copies to be distributed)
>Descartes, Meditations on First Philosophy, edited by John Cottingham (Cambridge)
>Princess Elizabeth, selections from her correspondence with Descartes (copies to be distributed)
>Leibniz, Philosophical Essays, translated and edited by Daniel Garber and Roger Ariew (Hackett)
>Berkeley, A Treatise Concerning the Principles of Human Knowledge, edited by Jonathan Dancy (Oxford)
>Hume, Enquiries concerning Human Understanding and concerning the Principles of Morals, edited by L. A. Selby-Bigge and P. H. Nidditch, third edition (Oxford)
>Hume, A Treatise of Human Nature, edited by Selby-Bigge and Nidditch, second edition (Oxford)
>Kant, Critique of Pure Reason, translated by Paul Guyer and Allen Wood (Cambridge)
>Kant, Grounding for the Metaphysics of Morals, translated by James Ellington (Hackett)
>Mill, Utilitarianism, edited by George Sher (Hackett)
>Johann Fichte, The Vocation of Man, translated by Peter Preuss (Hackett)
>Nietzsche, On the Genealogy of Morality, edited by Keith Ansell-Pearson and translated by Carol Diethe (Cambridge)
>Ludwig Wittgenstein, On Certainty, edited by G. E. M. Anscombe and G. H. von Wright (Harper)
>Elizabeth Anscombe, "The First Person" (copies to be distributed)

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History & Politics

>Herodotus, The History, trans. David Grene (University of Chicago, 1987)
>Thucydides, History of the Peloponnesian War, trans. Rex Warner (Penguin, 1971)
>Plato, Plato: Complete Works, ed. John Cooper (Hackett, 1997)
>Aristotle, Politics, trans. C.D.C. Reeve (Hackett, 1998)
>Livy, The Rise of Rome: Books 1–5, trans. T.J. Luce (Oxford, 1998)
>Polybius, The Rise of the Roman Empire, trans. Ian Scott-Kilvert (Penguin, 1980)
>Tacitus, The Annals, trans. A.J. Woodman (Hackett, 2004)
>Augustine, City of God, trans. Henry Bettenson (Penguin, 2004)
>Aquinas, Treatise on Law, trans. Richard D. Regan (Hackett, 2000)
>Dante, Monarchy, trans. Prue Shaw (Cambridge, 1996)
>Niccolò Machiavelli, The Prince, tr. H. Mansfield (University of Chicago, 1998)
>Martin Luther, On Christian Liberty, tr. W.A. Lambert (Augsburg Fortress, 2003)
>Thomas Hobbes, Leviathan, ed. E. Curley (Hackett, 1994)
>John Locke, Second Treatise of Government, ed. C.B. MacPherson (Hackett, 1980)Jean->Jacques Rousseau, Basic Political Writings, trans. D.A. Cress (Hackett, 1987)
>Immanuel Kant, Perpetual Peace and Other Essays, trans. T. Humphrey (Hackett, 1983)
>John Stuart Mill, On Liberty, ed. E. Rapaport (Hackett, 1978)
>Edmund Burke, Reflections on the Revolution in France, ed. C.C. O'Brien (Penguin, 1982)
>Alexander Hamilton, James Madison, and John Jay, in The Essential Federalist Papers and >Anti-Federalist Papers, ed. D. Wooten (Hackett, 2003)
>Alexis de Tocqueville, Democracy in America, ed. H. Mansfield and D. Winthrop
(Chicago, 2002)
>Karl Marx, Selected Writings, ed. L. Simon (Hackett, 1994)
>Friedrich Nietzsche, On the Genealogy of Morality (ed. K.Ansell-Pearson, Cambridge)
>Hannah Arendt, Origins of Totalitarianism (Harcourt, 1973)

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>>9662100
>Sophocles, Antigone, Reginald Gibbons and Charles Segal, trans. (in The Complete Sophocles, Vol. 1, Oxford)
I sure hope you're reading all three Oedipus plays by Sophocles. It makes no sense to read Antigone alone, without at least Oedipus Rex

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Is it worth the read? Most people say it's essential, but I wanted to know /lit/'s opinion.
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whatever man, you do you.
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>>9662094
Its pretty decent.

The main character is a complete pussy who feels inadequate due to his friends, family and hyper masculine Afghanistan society. I was rooting for him but I knew he could never find what he was looking for.

Apparently the author had survivors guilt from all the awful shit he's seen but never experienced himself. The novel is one big mental exploration of redemption that you can never quite grasp.
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It's shit. Absolutely not essential, unless you are a middle aged woman and a cultural tourist.

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Are his works nihilistic?
If not... how do you define him?
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>>9662016
some kind of chipper sailor with a gap in his tooth
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>>9662016
No, his works are yukyukistic.
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>>9662016
Yes, extremely, although I think categorizing him as nihilistic is too simple. Essentially his argument in GR was that the world was run by guys who don't give a shit about anything other than business and everything we thought we knew about history and WW2 was complete bullshit. Not to mention the recurring metaphor in his work of everything being changing shit, as in literal transforming fecal matter.

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>>9661956
More details, please
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>>9661958
details on what?
I suggested the get a copy and then they ordered five
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>>9661956
>that that feel when
What did he mean by this?

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Major in philosophy - worth it?
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Bumpity bump. I've been thinking about majoring in either philosophy or political science for a while now. Philosophy interests the fuck out of me and is definitely the way my brain is wired but I'm just not sure how practical it will end up being. Then again I want to write screenplays so do I really care?
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>>9661955
Depends what university.

If it's some literally-who state-university/college then don't bother.
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>>9661955
As a philosophy major, I'd say probably not

Any nips or weebs around that can recommend some good books om yurei and jap superstitions in general? In English, please as I don't know moonspeak.
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>>9661762
The works of Lafcadio Hearn. Kwaidan particularly.
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>>9661764
>>9661762
Oh, and I guess I can also give you a small collection:
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>>9661770
Arigato desu

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now that the dust has settled what are /lit/'s opinion on this?
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>NKJV
pig disgusting
either convert to NIV or stick with KJ because it's classic
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>>9661715
>not Douay-Rheims
Die.
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Step aside, real patrician taste coming through.

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damn... will christfags ever recover?
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>>9661689
There is photographic evidence of God, what are you talking about?
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>>9661700
You're seriously mentally damaged, Bruce Melvin. Have you considered removing yourself from the internet for a few days? I think it might be a help for you.
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Nietzsche is a logical reaction to Protestantism, and is thus further confirmation that Martin Luther is the worst man in history. Well, maybe second worst behind Judas.

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