I've been interested in mythology in my youth and want to get back into it. Is this book a good comprehension to get started again?
anybody knows what would be the german equivalent?
>>9666691
No reason for you not to be reading books in English.
>>9666691
as a native german speaker ive had no problems with this book
I'm a hardcore internet addict who spends ~14 hours a day online. What are some books or schools of thought to help out a person like me?
I've been reading up on determinism, free will and compatibilism and it's all looking pretty bleak, I've been living this shit life style for 10 years and I've been thinking that there's no traits in my disposition to lead me to a better life. I can think a lot but I never act. I have no discipline and I don't know how to suddenly rework my body and mind into a disciplined lifestyle.
>>9666431
Get better leadership.
Turn off the computer and go outside you fucking spastic.
clean your room
What restores your faith in a divine humanity?
Bonus points for 21st century pretty prose and more obscure works.
>>9666390
paradise lost
>>9666390
Simulation hypothesis
>>9666390
Teatro Grottesco and I Have A Special Plan For This World
How many pages do you read in 30 minutes?
>>9666344
Depends. Paperback normal size around 50
3 to 5
>>9666347
Sir, can you tell me how you became so fast?
How does /lit/ feel about this book? I reading it now and really enjoying it. What are some other good 'classic' fantasy books?
Magneto and Xavier like it.
>>9666320
fucking fantastic and I hate genre fantasy shit. makes Lord of the rings look gay as fuck. such a funny book. have you met king pellinore yet?
Anyone know good versions of the Merlin (et al) tales? I've only read Merlin oder das Wüsteland translated in english - which is fantastic but only exists as a publication in german - and have been left wanting to learn more of the variations of the myths.
6.124 The propositions of logic describe the scaffolding of the world, or rather they represent it. They have no 'subject-matter'. They presuppose
that names have meaning and elementary propositions sense; and that is their connexion with the world. It is clear that something about the world must be indicated by the fact that certain combinations of symbols--whose essence involves the possession of a determinate character--are tautologies. This contains the decisive point. We have said that some things are arbitrary in the symbols that we use and that some things are not. In logic it is only the latter that express: but that means that logic is not a field in which we express what we wish with the help of signs, but rather one in which the nature of the absolutely necessary signs speaks for itself. If we know the logical syntax of any sign-language, then we have already been given all the propositions of logic.
6.341 Newtonian mechanics, for example, imposes a unified form on the description of the world. Let us imagine a white surface with irregular
black spots on it. We then say that whatever kind of picture these make, I
can always approximate as closely as I wish to the description of it by covering the surface with a sufficiently fine square mesh, and then saying
of every square whether it is black or white. In this way I shall have imposed a unified form on the description of the surface. The form is optional, since I could have achieved the same result by using a net with a triangular or hexagonal mesh. Possibly the use of a triangular mesh would have made the description simpler: that is to say, it might be that we could describe the surface more accurately with a coarse triangular mesh than with a fine square mesh (or conversely), and so on. The different nets correspond to different systems for describing the world. Mechanics determines one form of description of the world by saying that all propositions used in the description of the world must be obtained in a
given way from a given set of propositions--the axioms of mechanics. It thus supplies the bricks for building the edifice of science, and it says, 'Any building that you want to erect, whatever it may be, must somehow be constructed with these bricks, and with these alone.' (Just as with the number-system we must be able to write down any number we wish, so with the system of mechanics we must be able to write down any proposition of physics that we wish.)
http://www.iep.utm.edu/wittmath/
>>9666247
thanks - whats your take? matter of opinion?
>>9666259
It's a language game, one of our best.
You should also look up Gödel.
What should I read before this guy?
The whole scholastic machinery the Ethics presupposes causes me a lot of trouble. I figure I should have read some medievals before taking it up, so what's the minimal required reading to get the relevant background here? Aristotle and Descartes are a given, but who else?
>>9666214
Not much really. Ethica is a monster but don't read it like a normal book. Spinoza is complex, it's all about absolute determinism and what can we do/know in such an absolute context. Don't give up on him yet, he's underrated as fuck and will open up all the philosophical keys.
Few words of advice, try to google "spinoza and [your favourite philosopher]", this ought to clear things up a bit. Don't worry much about the ontology at first but once you kinda get his "point", get back to it.
>>9666214
>Wanting to read anything by a jew
>>9666222
Yeah, I'm most of the way through the Ethics and I'm sure I get the gist, but I'm also sure I will need to return to it with a much better grasp of the scholastics in order to follow the deductions in detail eventually.
I'm just wondering, what's the best path to take from Aristotle to Spinoza?
>>9666134
4+5+1=10
>>9666178
4x5x1=20
Looking for some engaging historical fiction, just finished reading pic related and want something completely different. I'd be down for some hints of fantasy but I want to focus on some good characters.
Accursed Kings. Nothing still compares to this very day.
>>9666120
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_Search_of_Lost_Time
The White Company and Ser Nigel by Arthur Conan Doyle.
The Brother Cadfael mysteries by Ellis Peters.
The Alchemists Apprentice,the Alchemists Pursuit, and the Alchemists Code by Dave Duncan.
The Sharpe series by Bernard Cornwell.
The Hangman's Daughter series by Oliver Potzsch.
The Celebrated Cases of Judge Dee by Robert Van Gulik.
Enough to start with?
4x4 thread
There should be a 20 x 20 thread
Is it Kafkaesque?
>Is it Kafkaesque?
I don't know, but my diary definitely is
no touching the meat m'am
>>9666055
No. Everything is pretty fucking consistent in Dickens
What is the place of philosophy and studying philosophy in the world when scientific progress such as Einstein's theory of relativity, telescope, Newton, has proven so much of it wrong, misleading and ill founded? Will it forever be just commentary on human society and nothing else?
It's just a way for men to justify their own opinions by encapsulating them in serious-sounding jargon and gaining "legitimacy" by pursuing academic positions and publication.
I'd say it will always serve as battleground of competing social philosophies and worldviews, which structure how you conceive of yourself as an individual and how you relate to society. This certainly doesn't go away because of scientific progress, that's a very silly notion. You can either import a simplified worldview offered to you from some cultural source, or you can seriously consider it in the form of an ongoing 2600+ year old dialogue that examines all the enduring aspect of human thought. In one way or another, every ideology relates back to the common tradition of philosophy.
>>9666032
Illiterate cretin detected
>>9666019
Naive assumption
>>9666042
This is the basic premise. Nobody's telling you to read philosophy OP (It's quite the opposite nowadays), but if you have serious questions about things science can't directly answer then the considerations of some of the best thinkers in human history ought to have some merit. It's simple. You either research the issues addressed throughout time or keep posting low-grade memes, masturbating over self and edge closer and closer to becoming neurotic in a nihilistic frenzy.
Are there any popular modern writers who tackle similar themes to someone like Nietzsche?
>>9665963
Thomas Mann
>>9665963
Thomas metzinger
Thomas Pynchon
hi /lit/
My exams are over and i want to read something epic in scope ,books that need 700+ pages to tell their story .
I've read pic related and and the rest of Pynchon.
I've read Gaddis ,DFW(and regreted it),Barth,Tolstoy,Vollmann and Bolano.
is there any tome left to read ?
Herodotus' history is around 1600 pages long.
War & Peace
Anna Kerenina
Don Quixote
The Brothers Karamazov (don't be diving into this without having experienced Dostoevsky's chronology of works before it - try Crime & Punishment, Notes from Underground and The Idiot - the Idiot is 700+ pages but the other two are not, although altogether and included with Brothers Karamazov you'd be reaching a heck of a page count, my man)
The Border Trilogy
Lonesome Dove
Les Miserables (I'm honestly considering reading this for Summer and because I have plans to see the stage show in London before the year is out)
Knausgaard's My Struggle (6 volume semi-autobiographical novel)
In Search of Lost Time (7 volume novel from Proust)
And just for funsies, if you're interested in graphic novels at all, the original 6 volume manga of Akira is wonderful and offers so much more than the film (although the film is a genuine masterpiece of animation). Junji Ito's Tomie, Gyo and Uzumaki are also available in single volume tomes which are around 600-800 pages each. If you like disturbing, grotesque body-horror and modern Japanese takes on Eldritch beasts, it's a treat.
>>9666003
Also this guy is spot on, Herodotus is great.
Italianfag here.
What is the best Italian translation of the Bible you would recommend reading? Replies from other italianfags are greatly appreciated.
>>9665806
Heck, at this point just read it in Latin, what do you have to lose.
>>9665806
CEI 2008.
If you are a Catholic you can just go CEI 2008 and ignore the rest of this post.
Apart from the fact that you can read the whole thing with introduction and notes on bibbiaedu.it, it's also very, very cheap in print.
I have nothing against Protestant translations in principle, for example Diodati's was a 17th Century masterpiece, but you and I do not speak 17th century Italian.
The thing is that the contemporary standard protestant translation, Nuova Riveduta 2006, has perfectly indentical verses of the synoptic Gospels (I mean it in the most literal sense, Greek word for word) translated in different ways.
That is because chapters of the Bible would be translated by different scholars not talking to one another.
Heck, Giovanni Diodati didn't do this crap.
The CEI 2008 is super-harmonized and simply had the best staff available.