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>>9653912
The notes are interesting, I guess. The text is very unsure of itself however. Useless. Perfect title, though. For its time.

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>>9653912
Although most people think of this book as being Lyotard's magnum opus, he himself actually thought it was his worst book and tried to compensate with writing a bunch of novels. He admitted to having less than adequate knowledge of the sciences and even admitted to pretending to having read books he never read. Literally, a pseud like everyone in this board.

But imma cut Lyotard some slack: first, read the book like, as the title itself says, as a report on what Lyotard was observing in his time – the decay of the big grand leftist projects, the rise of internet, the advent of neoliberal globalism, etc. You'll find some prescient observations and predictions on how philosophy was shifting in his time, namely that of language games (think Wittgenstein) along with technology will color our "reality" and whoever controls the language games and the technology mediating these games, will control society.

There's then some side stuff about the commodification of education, scientific knowledge vs narrative knowledge, nature as continuously destabilizing vs nature as static.

I'd say the best value of the book is in it being able to share the main core attitudes of "postmodernism" with brevity. Still worth looking into despite the author's reservations.

This site has a good summary of the book's thought if you care: https://emergentbydesign.com/2012/01/29/reflection-the-postmodern-condition-a-report-on-knowledge/

>>9653912

I always say:

If the book is short,
If the book has some historical curiosity, interest or fame to it,
and If you want to read the book,

Then you should read the book. Because even if in fact the book is trash, you will still have your own informed opinion on same for the next time it comes up in conversation, and at a minimum of time invested.

I read it once. I think Barnes and Nobles keep it regularly stacked mostly for meme value. Seriously walk into a B&N philosophy section any time and you can usually find a copy.

I now vaguely remember that the closing language either in the text proper or in another section was very over-wrought and obscurantist. something about "let us save the honor of the name" or some such pablum.

>>9653904
There are plenty of southern gothic writers who avoid the hereby jeeby devil and magic trope like Walker Percey. The more modern writers are often noted for their lack of religious undertones. Barry Hannah is also a good starting point

Season one of true detective was more inspired by weird fiction, specifically Ligotti and Chambers (pretty fucking blatantly, almost to the point of plagiarism). If you really want to scratch your true detective itch start there, or maybe some hard boiled detective shit. McCarthys outer dark does come pretty close in tone to true detective imo, but there's supernatural elements. Frankly you should just accept that what makes true detective special is that it is unique. Enjoy it and move on

>>9653822
i dont even like books

the bottom row looks pretty out of place, as though someone shoehorned it into the chart.

>>9653832
have you read any of these?

>>9653727
I should mention I already have other translations that I've read.

>>9653727
Go for the Paul Dry Books version. Good glossary, two good opening essays the second of which is Jonathan Bate's Shakespeare's Ovid. The notes are tiny and almost all refer to semantics, which is all one needs.

>>9653727
I like the Penguin verse translation by Raeburn. Just finished studying Ovid at Oxford for my finals and, as someone who has read the Met. in both Latin and English multiple times, Raeburn captures the flow of the Latin and Ovid's humour better than anybody else.

are you as a person worth it?

Yes but pay close attention to what Don Juan says and what Castaneda actually does.

>>9653681
Rude.

op wants to learn about the character of the arab people- from a white author... lol

try tariq ramadan... he has a good understanding of the arabs in contemporary history....

The Great War for Civilization by Robert Fisk is better than those 2 listed above...

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>>9653499
It's Robert Anton Wilson. Taking it seriously is counterproductive and completely beside the point.

If you read the book you'd know you're not supposed to

>>9653958
/thread

All Quiet on the Western Front is essential Great War lit.
Hemingway's Nick Adams stories (incl. On the Quai at Smyrna, which may not explicitly be Nick Adams), A Farewell to Arms and The Sun Also Rises.

Storm of Steel
Seven Pillars of Wisdom
1919

>>9653242
Storm of Steel by Ernst Jünger
Poilu by Louis Barthas
The First World War: A Complete History by Martin Gilbert

>>9653192
Feel free to use it if you're lazy but want to appear otherwise.

>>9653192
Whoops. Link to the competition info:
>https://chris-wakefield-ngjy.squarespace.com/competition/

>probably only open to britfags

Good luck anon

>>9653096
Why bother buying the book when the editor put it up for free online?

>>9653106
I read it on the bus in hopes of attracting some /lit/ hunnies (didn't work; don't try).

and...

I like reading text printed on paper.

I'm looking for the following masterworks (I'm retarded/can't google):

>The Legacy of Totalitarianism in a Tundra
>The Legacy of Totalitarianism in a Tundra II: Miami
>The Legacy of Totalitarianism in a Tundra 3: Tokyo Drift
>Kolsti’s Adventure in the Everglades A Rom-Com, An Neovella

>>9652958
The Grapes of Wrath.

Two hundred and fifty thousand people over
the road. Fifty thousand old cars – wounded,
steaming. Wrecks all along the road, abandoned.
Well, what happened to them? What happened
to the folks in that car? Did they walk? Where
are they? Where does the courage come from?
Where does the terrible faith come from?
And here’s a story you can hardly believe, but
it’s true, and it’s funny and it’s beautiful. There
was a family of twelve and they were forced off
the land. They had no car. They built a trailer
out of junk and loaded it with their possessions.
They pulled it to the side of 66 and waited. And
pretty soon a sedan picked them up. Five of
them rode in the sedan and seven on the trailer,
and a dog on the trailer. They got to California
in two jumps. The man who pulled them fed
them. And that’s true. But how can such courage
be, and such faith in their own species? Very
few things would teach such faith. The people in
flight from the terror behind-strange things
happen to them, some bitterly cruel and some so
beautiful that the faith is refired forever.

>>9652958
Lolita, before you realize she's a kid. Those first sentences, man.

>>9653005
How on earth would you start reading Lolita without knowing she's a kid

I've been writing on and off for several years, have attended a creative writing course, and generally tried to improve as much as possible.

I wish I'd internalised the idea that I need to read _a lot_ and write _a lot_ and that's the long and short of it.

Everyone has advice. But reading and writing are the cornerstone.

Most people simply won't accept it's that easy and that hard.

Read the classics. Analyse and study them. Apply the newfound techniques to your own writing.

Garner an appreciation for the cannon.

[Yes, have a firm grasp of grammar; it's the toolset which allows you to express yourself to the fullest.]

>>9652839
You don't attempt to write prose. You either write and it's not good enough to be prose or you write prose.

It helps, but its not like you're not going to edit either.

>>9652815
>>>/sci/

This is a literature board, not 'general textbooks'. You'll be better off asking on the Science & Math board.

>>9652822
Sweet thanks! I had no idea there was one.