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Memes aside are there any books that take place on a flat earth and portray some of the differences such a model would have to our own?
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the discworld series
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>>9673037
Flatlander
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The old testament

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DUDE HASCHISH LMAO
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It's fun, you should try it.
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>>9672920
The collection that text is part of is called Illuminations. Am I the only one finding that hilarious?
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>>9673474
That's fucking hilarious

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Damn....deep....

What the fuck happened to poetry and how do we fix it?
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>>9672824
Why do you people post this girl every day?
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>>9672834
they work for a viral marketing consultancy
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>>9672824

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What is the end goal of Deconstruction?
I mean, it can be a way to understand works given their structural context (or that's how I see it), but what's the actual point of that?

I can get that people want to give their critiques a new scope, but that comes at the cost of striping away any value that the works have. And that doesn't even stops us from keeping this ad-infinitum, we can even deconstruct the critiques by that point and they lose value. We can analyze everything, but at some arbitrary point someone will think that X thing shouldn't be deconstructed, so who decides that and under what moral value? Even if we don't and our point is just showing how value-less and absurd every work and communication is, then why bother even trying to show deconstruction to the world, that too is absurd isn't it? Surely that value will be stripped away.

It just seems to me that it's like a snake eating itself (Ouroboros), there's nothing to gain because even deconstruction can be deconstructed. It's null and just madness at some point, if nothing has value (given that you accept deconstruction) then why do you even waste your time showing others that? Values become relative and fighting to show which one is better through reason is a waste of time then right?

I don't understand the end goal of Derrida or why this has become such an important part of post-modern critiques. It defeats the whole purpose of academic discussion and just tries to burn away everything that people built over the years for no apparent reason. And what's worse is that many people are ok with that. When you set something as "chaotic" as deconstruction, you simply don't let anyone any room to upgrade it or defeat it, it's like we don't even bother with creating "bosses" for others to defeat at this point.

I'm genuinely interested, I haven't reached any good point discussing this IRL.
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>>9672805
A desire to contribute to the re-evaluation of all Western values, built on the 18th-century Kantian critique of reason, and carried forward to the 19th century, in its more radical implications, by Kierkegaard and Nietzsche.
An assertion that texts outlive their authors, and become part of a set of cultural habits equal to, if not surpassing, the importance of authorial intent.
A re-valuation of certain classic western dialectics: poetry vs. philosophy, reason vs. revelation, structure vs. creativity, episteme vs. techne, etc.

What's an 'end goal' got to do with anything?
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>>9672805
To undermine western society.
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>>9672833
*GASP*

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Hey /lit/
Is there a good book about Pirates that is not Pirates of the Caribbean ?
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Cities of the red night by WS Burroughs.
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>>9672795
Well thank you
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_General_History_of_the_Pyrates

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Who is the greatest living novelist, Jonathan Franzen or Dave Eggers?
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>>9672631
Damn. It may be Rivka Galchen.
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>>9672631
Pynchon, DeLillo, Roth, and McCarthy are still alive.
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william Vollmann

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>cultural marxism doesn't ex...
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the conspiracy theories surrounding the Frankfurt school, propagated on /pol/ etc, don't exist.

cultural marxism has nothing to do with ,multi-culturalism and immigration etc
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>>9672647
Nice try, Schlomo. But we here on /lit/ are redpilled on your techniques.
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Why are you pretending to understand primary texts without using secondary sources to explicate ideas? Even Avicenna used them.

>"...As a teenager, [Avicenna] was greatly troubled by the Metaphysics of Aristotle, which he could not understand until he read al-Farabi's commentary on the work. For the next year and a half, he studied philosophy, in which he encountered greater obstacles. In such moments of baffled inquiry, he would leave his books, perform the requisite ablutions, then go to the mosque, and continue in prayer till light broke on his difficulties. Deep into the night, he would continue his studies, and even in his dreams problems would pursue him and work out their solution. Forty times, it is said, he read through the Metaphysics of Aristotle, till the words were imprinted on his memory; but their meaning was hopelessly obscure, until one day they found illumination, from the little commentary by Farabi, which he bought at a bookstall for the small sum of three dirhams. So great was his joy at the discovery, made with the help of a work from which he had expected only mystery, that he hastened to return thanks to God, and bestowed alms upon the poor..."
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avicenna
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Extensive use of secondary sources here desu. I think /lit/ is critical on second sources ONLY vs actually reading the primary.
Also remember there are many Amerifats and former Protestants here, so they fetishize primary texts and their own interpretation
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>>9672516
>not being smart enough to unpack texts on your own
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>>9672516
What are you even talking about? I don't read primary sources. I read secondary sources, reviews, TvTropes, and see how far I can get without getting called out on not knowing what I'm talking about. I'm not emotionally prepared for actual critical thinking, so I regurgitate pseudanalysis as practice.

Poor Cliff cant take a Pynch
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>>9672512
He's dumber and more grating (and less pleasing to look at) than Ontologicool yet /lit/ shills for him why? Is /lit/ scared of grills?
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>>9672512
What a faggot. I hate the 63 year old melting goblin face man anons gran Irvine
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How do you get 3/4 of the way through Crying of Lot 49 and not finish it? There's like 20 pages left at that point.

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Is philosophy the ultimate meme?
>built on a solid foundation at least two millennia old
>all human knowledge has directly or indirectly derived from it
>looks silly from outside, but actually has deep meaning
>normies have never understood it and never will. ever
>to mock it, you have to use it
>^some next level sh*t right there
>unlike other fads, it never died out, just like real dank memes
>still no one knows what the fuck it's actually talking about
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I can't answer your wider questions but
>normies have never understood it and never will. ever
It's been my experience that a lot of high-tier "normies" are interested in philosophy. I'd go as far to say that "philosophy" is almost on equal footing with "finance." You need to encounter a better class of normie desu. I suggest moving to a world class city
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This is a literature board. If you want to discuss non-specific philosophy, go to /his/.
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read nietzsche opie

What's the most expensive book you bought and end up never reading?
me pic related
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better sell before the new edition comes out and all mystique for it disappears. first edition collecting is a waste of time.

ask this question on /p/ . photography books regularly run past the $120 mark
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>>9672322
Infinite Jest. I bought it years ago and always give up after a few pages. The style is just unbearable.
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>>9672322
Fucking read the book or give it to someone who will. It's great. Also, I have a hardco) first edition GR, but I didn't buy it and I've read it twice in paperback, not sure if that counts.

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What the fuck was Molloy's problem?
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>>9672275
it's everyone except molloy who has a problem
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>>9672303
>molloy doesn't have a problem
you run over someone's pet
you beat a rando
you still live with mom
your internal dialogue doesn't make sense
Can someone help me make sense of this?
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>>9672341
Hey, what's wrong with living with mom?

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why are collectivists so evil?
Sickening.
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The worst b8 is when the ideology informing the post is aggressively transparent. 3/10 do better.
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>>9672280
no b8. i'm sincere.
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collective society has produced everything we think of as society. individuals without society are just barbarians in the woods with sticks. stop being such a primitivist and join the 21st century.

Are there any writers or sophists who make a point of having really ridiculous rhetoric and being a shameless asshole?
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>>9672268
nick land
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Celine
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socrates

I've looked through thesauruses, and dictionaries, but I can't seem to find it..
It's a word that begins with P and is said about someone who implies skill they don't have, or more than is actually there.
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>>9672214
Prestidigitator?
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>>9672214
Pseud.

You need a mirror, not a thesaurus
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psoriasis

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