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Whatever i write sends a cringe enduced chill down my spine i cant bare my writing .
How do i start writing for real /lit/?
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>>9676068
what do you want to try to write? style? topics? think of characters, write about characters, some notes, think about some story, plot points? you make a world for people to enter, to give people an experience, to touch their soul and strive to find the deepest parts of yours
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>>9676068
Just write what you think is cool not good at first
You'll improve over time but just stick with it and read shit you want to write about
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just realize this is a troll, with the lower case i's and the failed period placement
just kidding
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Newfag here. Wondering which translation of this meme I should get. Is the Oliver Ready version any good? Suggestions greatly appreciated
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This is the edition I read. Pretty sure it's based on the Constant Garnish translation. Highly recommend over the Penor and Vedonkadonk version.
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>>9675812
Is there any real difference between the translation, or more a matter of preference? E.g relatively little difference stylistically, just like differences in wording here and there
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>>9675817
It varies from translation to translation. For example, in the version I read (above), page 185 actually just doesn't exist. Not just in my copy either, every copy at Barns & Nobel were like that. It goes from 184-186, so some plot points are excluded, but that's okay because the prose is extraordinary. It all depends on your own personal reading style.
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Who's right?
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>>9675732
About what?
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I think they need to be synthesized. I think that we (men) all want to fuck our mothers and are afraid to be castrated. I think all women suffer from hysteria and penis envy.
I think myths are simply the collective consciousness of lust. Everything can be reduced to lust, even religion.
Archetypes are just different types we lust after.
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>>9675732
Jung was too batshit to even be called wrong
Sage goes in all fields
I have a collection of poems coming in from the library from Du Fu. I'd heard that he's quite an interesting read.
What does /lit/ think of him? Any poets you'd recommend with a similar style?
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Best Chinese poet. While the Greeks were trapped in their epics and narratives, his poems have a modern poet's sensibility. Sadly, he's an outlier among Chinese poets.
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>>9675682
The Chinese always seem to divert from the general 'state' of world culture at any given time, hence why I was looking into their poetry in the first place. You've certainly peaked my interest further, anon, I do hope he lives up to the title of the 'best'.
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>>9675691
Anyway, why do you need to get it from the Library? His entire collection is translated for free on the internet.
http://tommazanec.com/blog/2016/01/14/stephen-owens-translation-of-the-complete-works-of-du-fu/
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Leave this board and never return if any one of these apply to you:
>you read any form of genre fiction
>you barely know your classics
>you tend to believe that if you like a given work, it is justified on an artistic level
>you think everyone's opinion should be accepted and respected
>you speak a single language
>you read contemporary versions of Shakespeare or Milton
>you read for the plot
>you read for entertainment
>you rarely read nonfiction
>you don't have a solid grounding in philosophy
>you don't have at least have some understanding of the Three Tragedians and Homer
>you have little to no understanding of literature outside of your cultural horizon
>you have little to no understanding of literature within your own cultural horizon
>you mostly read contemporary literature
>you believe 'the author is dead'
>you make your literary analysis proceed from ideology
>you think intricate prose is 'pretentious' and that the author 'should just get to the point'
>your rarely read poetry
>you think Rhythm and Rhyme is just useless rules and laws restricting creativity
>you have a hard time explaining why you like a given work
>you have a hard time forming structured and relevant literary criticism
>you tend to refuse to judge works for yourself, rather relying on the opinions of literary authorities
>you rarely read for more than one or two hours straight
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Novalis was too good for this world
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>>9675645
glad to see you're at least still browsing /lit/. stay reading
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>tfw radical centrist
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who are the first two?
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>>9675549
Herbert Spencer and Adam Smith
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Do you finish books you consider to be boring, or stop reading? What if they're big fat classic books?
I'm less than 120 pages from the end of the brothers Karamazov and 2/3 through Nicholas Nickleby. I want to finish them to get that sweet, sweet pseudo intellectual cred, although i will still admit irl that I found them dull shit
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You won't gain anything if you just read the words on the page and move from page to page. Do you even remember what happened 5 pages ago? You are just wasting your time if that's the case.
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This is why I keep what I read mostly to myself. Though I'll admit that 've read some books that I read because of their social value.
For some reading books is just another way to signal to other people - or more specific - the opposite sex virtue, class and so on and so on
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But Karamazov is fun, Its a murder mystery full of characters crazier than anything you'll see in lame crime tv shows.
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https://medium.com/incerto/only-the-rich-are-poisoned-the-preference-of-others-c35ddf65cf68
This sums up literary culture.
>When people get rich, they shed their skin-in-the game driven experiential mechanism. They lose control of their preferences, substituting constructed preferences to their own, complicating their lives unnecessarily, triggering their own misery. And these are of course the preferences of those who want to sell them something.
>I once had dinner in a Michelin-starred restaurant with a fellow who insisted on eating there instead of my selection of a casual Greek taverna with a friendly owner operator, his second cousin as a manager and his third cousin once removed as a receptionist. The other customers seemed, as we say in Mediterranean languages, to have a cork plugged in their behind obstructing proper ventilation, causing the vapors to build on the inside of the gastrointestinal walls, leading to the irritable type of decorum you only notice in the educated upper classes. I note that, in addition to the plugged corks, all men wore ties.
>Dinner consisted in a succession of complicated small things, with microscopic ingredients and contrasting tastes that forced you to concentrate as if you were taking some type of exam. You were not eating, rather visiting some type of museum with an affected English major lecturing you on some artistic dimension you would have never considered on your own.
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>>9675437
>don't worry plebs high quality food isn't that good
Pure ideology
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>>9675512
Restaurant food is often not high quality it is just fancy junk food
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>>9675437
>all men wore ties.
So?
This article seems kind of stupid.
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The fact that so many books still name Harry Potter “the greatest or most significant or most influential” children’s series ever only tells you how far kid’s writing still is from becoming a serious art. Drama critics have long recognized that the greatest drama writers of all times are Tolstoy or Goethe, who were not the most famous or richest or best sellers of their times, let alone of all times. Romance critics rank the highly controversial Harlequin over classic writers who were highly popular in courts around Europe. Children’s book critics are still blinded by commercial success: Harry Potter sold more than anyone else (not true, by the way), therefore they must have been the greatest. Romance critics grow up reading a lot of romance books of the past, drama critics grow up reading a lot of drama books of the past. Children’s book critics are often totally ignorant of the children’s books of the past, they barely know the best sellers. No wonder they will think that JK Rowling did anything worth of being saved.
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>>9675406
http://www.scaruffi.com/fiction/best100.html
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What were the best children's books of the past?
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>>9675418
http://www.scaruffi.com/fiction/bestyu.html
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what books do you associate with the word "idle"?
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Oblomov
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>>9675081
Introduction to Python
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>>9675103
>mfw
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This has got to be one of the most perennially beguiling, elliptical things ever written. And it seems all the more mysterious to me because so much of it is couched as this extremely practical, almost Machiavellian political advice. Having been schooled entirely in the western intellectual tradition, with its notions of hierarchy, dualism and progression (historical, socio/cultural or otherwise), this was a complete mind-fuck to me. It sort of reminds me of Heidegger, with those really crazy, cyclical concept definitions. Or certain lines from modest mouse songs
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>>9674958
Congratulations!
You are now ready for the I Ching
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Just stick with Plato if you want mysticism. Asian "philosophy" is purposely cryptic nonsense for retards. And anyone refuting this point just claims that you can't understand it without months of meditation.
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So I've read Meditations and Letters from a Stoic. Where do I go from here?
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>so i've read X where do i go from here?
You don't you re-read that shit 20 times until you can write a thesis about it.
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>>9674961
ty anon, will do.
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>>9674957
Epictetus should be read.
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Prove him wrong.
Protip: you can't.
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I can't.
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>>9674695
OP has not read any Spengler, ever.
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>>9674695
Another /pol/ ratkid.
Sage and report.
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Anyone else here a fan of Leodor Tolstoyevsky?
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>>9674637
Combine them together and you basically get James Joyce
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>>9674897
Most autistic statement i've seen on this board
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Will reading Solzhenitsyn, Dostoyevsk, Tolstoysort me out?
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Yeah, but the patrician route of sorting oneself out start by reading nihilist/absurdist philosophers first. You have to break yourself down before building yourself back up.
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Yes.
Hurry up and read Crime and Punishment already.
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>>9674626
implying you can build yourself up after covering yourself with the warm blanket of pessimism
pessimism is the intellectual philosophy
read:
schopenhauer
beckett
cioran