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>>7609821
Tl;dr

>>7609827
You're on /lit/, read the damn post.

Tl:dr:
>Why are novellas commonly considered a dead format?

>>7609832
>>Why are novellas commonly considered a dead format?

No one considers them a dead format, idiot. Now go back to Reddit and leave the big boys alone, so that they can continue discussing literature.

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Plutarch's Lives are GOAT

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>>7609403
Love and Capital

Its pretty important to understanding Ulysses better.

>>7604312
Really? I feel like I see it mentioned here all the time and that almost every time it's mentioned it's because someone has something good to say about it.

It's unbearably Irish.

>>7610111
pleasure - d'annuzio

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>>7610111
A Rebours.

read books

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>>7609708
>go to uni
>pick obscure field of study or just stick to philosophy or literature
>read and heavily annotate all texts required for course
>get to class early and be sitting, reserved, reading a text that is not required for class
>hog the attention in class by constantly raising hand or interjecting without Prof. Permission
>make sure you listen to obscure Indy bands not well-known outside the confines of 4chan or even not known there
>you have to be /fa/ or you'll come across as just a creepy school shooter type
>helps if you're good looking
>helps if you're not fat (see above point)
>spend majority of your free time between classes in uni coffee shop
>stay in uni for as long as possible then seek out grad school
>develop an addiction to nicotine, caffeine, and alcohol

Now you're /lit/

>>7609708
read Deleuze

>that asinine quote
>female "writing"

>>7612374
comfy af

>>7612374
>in someone else's house
Not even memeing but this is such a feminine thing to write

I prefer to swallow in oscillating ecstasy.

I prefer to swallow in oscillating ecstasy.

Don't swallow too hard or you'll choke.

I got some sort of waves of pleasure chills from the later Invisible Cities but it wasn't spooky at all. Is there a name for this? Other than "enjoyment"?

>>7612200
Frisson?

I'll be writing working all Saturday then spending the night and Sunday writing an article to be published on Monday. The only literary thing my gf will be doing is shutting the fuck up while I finish.

We'll be reading, I guess.

>>7612165
Learn how to punctuate, faglord

>>7612078
what a dumb fucking quote. I hate when these intellectual fucks who are great in their specific fields, feel the need to "branch out" and """""enlighten us""""" with their 12 yr old revelations.

>>7612093
Feynman was a chad who could do physics. Nothing more.

WE WUZ STARDUST AND SHIT

How well read are you in Hermeticism?

Much of the influence comes from DeLillo's debut "Americana", including the head-shaped-city thing which comes from a reference in DeLillo's novel about how John Wayne (IIRC) was so big in town that there was talk of building a city shaped like him or something.

DFW claims not to have read Pynchon but he also claimed not to have read BEE and people have called him out on that saying how influenced he was by BEE being so young at the time of publication etc.

There was actually an ex-student of Wittgenstein's affiliated with Amherst and who lived nearby that DFW knew about, which was obviously an influence to him when thinking up the plot.

Two of the main influences in terms of prose were Nabokov's Lolita (which influenced Rick's objectification of Lenore: the detailed "romantic" parts being superficially endearing but also somewhat creepy in their being so superficial) and Run, Rabbit by John Updike, which DFW thought (and later suggested in his novel about old authors close to death, including Updike, and solipsism) was misogynistic but also pretty entertaining. The character of Biff Diggerence is based on Updike, and like Updike Biff comes from Shantilly, Virginia (or whichever obscurish town/city Updike is from).

The essential theme of the book IMO is the nature of personhood in relation to language. Is the parrot a person for being able to mimic the reverend and Lenore's crude housemate? Is the psychologists's doll a person since he carries it around and talks to it? Is the city itself a person since it's shaped like one and has in its brain a switchboard (albeit a malfunctioning one) connecting the city? Are the babies who are fed the special babyfood people (babies not typically being granted the kind of full personhood an older child otherwise has) for being able to precociously verbalize etc? Lenore is twinned with her Gramma (most obviously by name) because like her grandmother she feels that she lacks a function and therefore is in a weird gray area in terms of being a person, since as Witt-chan says the meaning of something is associated with its function. Like the city swithcboard shaped like an actress's head (an actress herself associated with her grandmother), Lenore's thoughts are misdirected, and like a character in a fictional novel Lenore's story is told throughout by a rapid, obsessively detailed narrative voice much like that of Rick, her obsessive and jealous lover. The only chapter really in which we get any different style of dialogue is the childishly-written first one, where Lenore refuses to sign herself away to the men (and thus forfeits a function in the way women at the time often found one, namely by marrying).

>>7612012
>I don't understand why it is so praised by everyone
it isn't

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>>7612004
>"Euripedes"
>Talentless Hack

>>7612006
Euripides isn't fit to sniff Aeschylus' farts.

>>7612004
late last night laying in my bed
thinking

I'll bump once at least.

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V. might seem intimidating, so l suggest you start of with Lot 49 instead. After that feel free to read some of the Pynchon-lite novels. Or not, and go with V. Just make sure that you follow up V. with Gravity's Rainbow. That's the way they're supposed to be read, imo.

>>7611971
>>7612002
thank you gentlemen.
Ive read 100pgs of GR, it was a bit too much for that time. Last night finished Lot and I have a copy of against the day, so wondering whats next.
ty again

try to live a life being logical by avoiding being passionate and don't let your emotions cloud your judgement

they did not ban emotions per se, they just thought it gets in the way of clarity, a bit like vulcans

>>7611828
>try to live a life being logical by avoiding being passionate and don't let your emotions cloud your judgement
sounds a little like Asperger's,no?

>>7611832
NO!
Asperger means they can't express it properly

don't be mean