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I live in a small apartment and sadly one my book shelves needs to be positioned in such a way that it is exposed to sunlight from a nearby window. I keep the courtain on so that you can't see the sunbeam fall into the books, but I'm worried about protecting them from sun exposure. Is the courtain enough or should I just rearrange everything and move the shelve?
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temperature warp the books not the sun per se
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>>7614671
Discoloration is also a problem.

A few books of me warped in summer while being on a room of the house very vulnerable to changes of temperature. They just went back to normal when the weather cooled down.
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>>7614684
Yeah, discoloration is what I'm worried about. I worry that the courtains won't be enough since the sun's light is still going through them, even if not as strongly.

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How do I enjoy Woolf?
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>>7614586
Understand that Wolf was an author who experienced tragedy and suffering early on in life. Her works are best read when one is feeling anxious and somber. She allows you to experience another's dread through her work.

Also, the waves is her magnum opus.
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>>7614606
Can you explain why you liked The Waves? I enjoyed To The Lighthouse but found The Waves super disappointing
I'm not 100% sure I 'got' it, but I think I did, and I think what I 'got' was stupid

The characters were really noncharacters too .. and I think that was intentional, I just don't know what to take from that
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>>7614618
The waves was Woolf's transcendance from Lighthouse as a modernist writer, leaving the human characters behind, moving into a more spiritual sequent. In the waves, the monologues are not seperate characters, they are "facets of consciousness for continuity". What makes the waves so exceptional is that it challenges the very definition of what a novel can be; many critics unable to distinguish it between an exact story or poem.

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What stories or authors from other sources did Lovecraft consider as part of his Cthulhu canon?
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ok
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He was good friends with Clark Ashton Smith, they both liberally took myths from each other

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Need suggestions: books on obssession/paranoia in the spooky way, either fiction or non fiction
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Crime and Punishment is your book.
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>>7614409
Sweet. Thanks m8, found a the penguin edition for $5, is it good (in english, although I am brazilian)?
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>>7614419
I think that's the McDuff translation. If that's the one, it's excellent and the same I read. Highly praised.
Avsey's translation is another option.

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I would like to read into ways of understanding, reading and identifying the things people are going throught.

My wild guess is that I should dive deep into psychology or something like that.

In other words, I want to work on people and this means I should adopt something completely different than what I already am.

So... what to do?
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>>7614357
Fat people should go die
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What do you guys think of this?

>Ask novelists today whether they spend more time watching TV or reading fiction and prepare yourself, at least occasionally, to hear them say the unsayable.

>That this represents a crisis for the novel seems to me undeniable. But a crisis can be an opportunity. It incites change. And the novel needs to keep changing if it is to remain novel. It must, pilfering a phrase from TV, boldly go where no one has gone before.

>In the words of the Canadian writer Sheila Heti: “Now that there are these impeccable serial dramas, writers of fiction should feel let off the hook more — not feel obliged to worry so much about plot or character, since audiences can get their fill of plot and character and story there, so novelists can take off in other directions, like what happened with painting when photography came into being more than a hundred years ago. After that there was an incredible flourishing of the art, in so many fascinating directions. The novel should only do what the serial drama could never do.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/02/books/review/are-the-new-golden-age-tv-shows-the-new-novels.html?_r=0
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>>7614116
A) The NY Times is absolute garbage and you shouldn't read it.

B) Painting completely degenerated into shit after the photograph
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>>7614116
I've seen a few young writers claim television influence. IMO it won't matter much
in the future because the "golden age" is over. You had new platforms forced to take risks, giving full control over to creatives (first cable, then pay channels, then streaming). The function of these programs is no longer about selling strictly "quality" since the platforms have become ubiquitous as well as mature fully formed business models. They need to reach their now wide audience and with that comes conventions, imitations, watering down, and heavy creative oversight aka Network Television. There will never be another Sopranos, Deadwood, Mad Men, The Wire, etc.
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>>7614116
>The novel should only do what the serial drama could never do.”
and it has for ages

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Thoughts? Influential? Important?
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>influential and important?
yes, probably

but the more important question should be
>insightful?
and the answer is yes.

read it.
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I read the first chapter for a class and it was pretty riveting.
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>>7613569
Where do you go to school?

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>first half of the 18th century novel character drops a tear
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>2016
>click "/lit/ - Literature"
>/mu/ opens
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>>7612889
so?
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>pynchon book
>weed
>unknowable supernatural systems
>'limp cock'
>drunken sailors
>digressions into science that use formulas for poetic association

no complaints

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I enjoy "A Season in Hell" quite a bit. Any recommendations on where to go next? Other than Rimbaud's other work?

Also, general poetry recommendations thread.
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>>7612785

Depends. Did you read it in French? In English translation?

In French: read Jules LaForgue, Baudelaire, and if your french is strong enough, Mallarme. You might move on to Apollinaire after that. After reading LaForgue in French you'd do best to read TS Eliot's early lyrical poetry. It's the bridge between the french symbolists and the english modernists.
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>>7612801
I read a translation; my french isn't too good. Thanks for the detailed answer.
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>>7612785
Read Illuminations, imo better than Season. Then you can go to a lot of poets (Jacob, Reverdy, Char, Michaux, surrealists etc.)

Laforgue imo isn't the best advice here (even though I totally love his poetry).

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Is it worth reading?
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It's a literal meme book. Not like people here claim that Infinite Jest or Ulysses are "meme books", because those are actually great works of art. This is literally just a book filled with memes.
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>>7612717
Download link?
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Of course not. How illiterate are you to even ask?

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>transcends the good/bad dichotomy
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>book is a tour de force
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>>7610373
>book is a tour de France
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>book is Pynchonesque, Lynchian, Dostoevskian, Homeric, Turmeric
>book is a work of art
>book is a daring poststructural synthesis of metamodernistic & neo-traditional lit
>book is a discerning eye and a warm heart towards zeitgeistic multicultural anxieties
>book is a page turner

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what are the essential literary fantastical quests or journeys? so far i have

>odyssey
>aenid
>beowulf
>lord of the rings
>the hobbit
>bonus reading: hero with a thousand faces

a key feature of what i'm interested in is some sort of supernatural, divine, or magical influence or characters in the work. i'm sure there are some in eastern literature i'm unaware of. i'm also interested in expanding from past mythological settings to any that take place in the present, near-present or future.
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The Alchemist
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>>7607926
Lord of the rings
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>>bonus reading: hero with a thousand faces

This one isn't specific to quests though

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http://strawpoll.me/6613070
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>>7614018
A great film and a great piece of music are better than a great book, but books generally tend to be of better quality than the average movie or song.
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>>7614030
>found the virgin
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>>7614030
we got a live one

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Is this a good book?
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define 'good'
define 'book'
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>>7610080
Is it worth my time? Is it illuminating? Will it enrich my life?
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>>7610082
No

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I tried asking for suggestions on how to start with Voltaire on /his/ but didn't have luck. Can you help me, /lit/? I'm tired of him being mentioned in, for example, realist French works, and not knowing shit about him.
Where should I start? What do you recommend reading?
Also translations recommendations are appreciated.
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Aight here's the deal

Voltaire is public domain so you can use google to read most of his works. This is really helpful when you're bored and want to find the odd letter or essay to peruse.

Of his major works, Candide is the most major of his fiction (though Micromegas and Zadig are worth the reads) and besides that I would recommend his Dictionnaire Philosophique -- 120 mean, pointed essays from ya boi Voltaire.

There's plenty of biography on him -- there's a good one in the public domain by John Morley -- and it's always a blast to read about his times.

I would check into his correspondence with Rousseau and Frederick of Prussia as well, if I were you.

Enjoy it m8 I wish I could read Voltaire for the first time again
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>>7614066
Nice answer, appreciated. Any insight on translations?
I'm looking for physical books but it's nice that he's public domain for the reason you mentioned.
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>>7614075
I've read Candides from translators Frame and Cuffe, both were good enough. My Dictionnaire Philosophique was translated by a Besterman

the translations come less into play with his letters, which are not to be slept on

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