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I see her walk through my decrepit life
Smiling and singing about something
I wish I could hear what she's singing
I wish I could see what she's seeing

Because without her voice I'm nothing
Without her breath still breathing
Without her step still crushing my ego

I would be the next an hero

is meaning in the prose or
in the author's writ
is the truth just a pose
or is it god's sweet wit?

I close the tome and ask for peace
but thirst for more blood ink
flay my flesh then fry in grease
may i never sleep a wink

library walls loom over me
my tomb this has become
dusty are the pages, see?
my ghost gives all welcome.

Once amidst my mundane day
I catch a waft of truth or something other than what I have become
And while I twinge, in that spark of a moment
I leave it behind and instead watch the frost cover my soul in apathetic understanding
And it's easier to be
So I don't care

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>>7604787
>mfw I'm russian

>>7604787
>translations

>>7604793
Lucky you

>>7604795
Bad meme my friend

>>7589860
Obviously not pic related

A friend of mine but he's not English so.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_aXWgpxjTs

Only worthwhile booktube channel.

what are you hoping to achieve in your reading?

The OP of this thread is devoid of worth, given the worthlessness of his thread.

All in favor?

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>>7610845

>>7610784
>reading meme authors

He's a hack

>>7610784
Mason and Dixon and Gravity's Rainbow are his masterpieces, but I recommend starting with V. or the Crying of Lot 49; 49 is easier and more linear than most of this works, yet still quite good, while V. is ambitious and more in the vein of his other books.

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>>7610758
It would be an extraordinary novel if done correctly. People who like technological answers to historic problems can argue that the stirrup providing knights with the ability to seriously dominate peasants/infantry. The invention of the crossbow and the first military revolution (1300-1350), allowed the weakening of the knight and cavalry which enable peasants more rights from the state. The further military revolutions decentralized the power of the state over individual citizens and by the measure of some military/state security apparatus orientated historians, allowed for greater degrees of freedom to individuals.

But the industrial revolution gave increasing power to people with capital to ensure their power. Consider chemical weapons which allow a single man to murder thousands in a cloud of gas if he chooses.

Surveillance though is primarily about deterring actions against the status quo in politico-military action, or against the society at hand in the case of crime.

Either way, the police state only exists so long as it compels people to act by the threat of force and not by the enactment of force.

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>>7610672
Because it's fun, doofus

David Copperfield.

bleak house

>Oliver Twist for the characters
>A Tale of Two Cities for the plot and pacing
>Great Expectations for the writing and themes
>Bleak House and David Copperfield are great too but you could tell Dickens was just filling pages to meet his monthly quota.

Lattimore didn't translate all the tragedies in his U of Chicago project, in fact, he only translated a few plays with Grene, while including other modern translations for the rest; he served as a chief editor with Grene on all of them during it's commission.

They're pretty great and is the best corpus translation out there in English. There's a bunch of older translations of some plays which are more elegiac in style though. Keep in-mind UoC probably made him keep the style more simplistic, as the whole concept of translating all of the plays was pretty new at it's time seeing some (like of them weren't considered interesting enough to bother translating, and that the whole goal of it was to do a modern / updated translation for then- classical and drama students and other readers to relate to while being published and consistently editted by the same team to make for easy commercial access.

>Not reading them in greek
Come on dude

I'm afraid there is no Rodney Merrill or Richard Lattimore of Greek tragedy. Lattimore's translations are pretty good, but no as good as his Homer, and I really, really wish Rodney Merrill would do some tragedy translations.

They're still worth reading, very fine literature, but if you compare them to the original Greek, all translations of tragedy fall very short. The same goes for the Greek poets. Some philosophers also just don't have translations nearly as good as the originals, such as Heraclitus and Paremenides. I think top notch translation could be done for all these, they just haven't been done yet.

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Follow this chart if your *really* wanna have a good time.

>>7610507
2666

>>7610495
Start with the Greeks.

>>7610497
I thought that was for philosophy

>>7610495
Finnegans Wake

Also, recommended translators and translations?

Yeah - go for it. To be 'completely' read for Nietzsche, you might have to have read:

Laotze
Rousseau
Schopenhauer
Kierkegaard
Hegel
Lessing
Kant
John Stewart Mill
Lucretius
Leibniz
Heraclitus
Proclus
Plotinus
Pythagoras
Epictetus
Borne
Heine
Parmenides
Empedocles
Democritus
Thales
Horace
Montaigne
Voltaire
Hermann Hesse
Pushkin

But I recommend getting Kaufmans 'Portable Nietzsche' & going from there.

Read the SEP articles of his influences, then read the SEP article on him.

Then read Geneaology.

Of course if you read his precursors more fully, you'd get more out of him -- but you can always read a guy more than once (plus it's more fun that way).

Once you've read a good bit of Nietzsche, read Deleuze's book on him.

dress up as a pizza guy and adopt an italian accent, claim you don't speak english to gain access to the building and drop off your resume in a pizza box

>>7610201
Bumping. How would I go about submitting things such as reviews to my local newspaper for pay?

>>7610210

Should I also pull back my long coat and reveal that I am not an adult but instead two children standing one on top of the other?

FUCK THE SYSTEM MAN

>>7609554
It's to make one sound artsy, intelligent, and important. The best-written and recited free verse allows the reader (or listener) to practically smell the rancid machiatos coming from the poet's asshole.

>>7609554
>but I don't understand "freeform" poetry.

Let's get this clear

Most "free verse" poets who were good also didn't really write free verse

Whitman wrote long lines that weren't in iambic pentameter but they are incredibly music and the rhythm is memorable from only a single read out loud. He's a formal poet.

Ezra Pound wrote in "free verse" in that he played it by ear. Music in the same was as Whitman. Even messed around with quantitative meter. Very musical.

TS Eliot had "le ghost of meter" in his poems. It shows. His verse is musical.

It's only once you get into the group that worshiped WC Williams and his successors that you find shitty free verse.

Read Whitman out loud though. When Lilacs Last in the Dooryard Bloom'd is incredibly lyrical.

> "freeform" poetry

as I've just shown through example it can be done extremely well. Though most people just use it as an excuse to write shitty poetry that would be shitty even if it were in meter.