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The greatest novel ever written. Trumps Tolstoy, better then Brothers K with the exception of The Grand Inquisitor, as a stand alone chapter it's nearly perfect. I'm a Catholic. That chapter was soul crushingly well done.

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2016-01-22 00:50:13 Post No.7610719
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Anonymous 2016-01-22 00:50:13 Post No. 7610719 [Report] [View this topic]

I've recently decided to get started on philosophy and decided to start by reading Thus Spoke Zarathustra.
However, as I'm a total n00b in philosophical thought, and advanced literature too, desu, I think I may have missed much of the deeper understanding of the book
Is there any work that'd be better for a begginer? I've heard that the greeks are a good start, but I don't know much about them to actually choose a good starting book

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Anonymous 2016-01-22 00:55:14 Post No.7610739
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>>7610719
>I think I may have missed much of the deeper understanding of the book
>I think I may have
>I may have
>may

Start with the Pre-Socratics.

Parminedes and Heraclitus

Anonymous 2016-01-22 01:01:36 Post No.7610763
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>>7610739
As I've said before, I'm a complete begginer on philosophy
Do I start with Parmenides' biography?
And Charles H. Kahn's book on Heraclitus?

Anonymous 2016-01-22 01:04:29 Post No.7610776
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>>7610763
You start with the stanford encyclopedia, read the whole thing, then look in the bibliography

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2016-01-21 20:44:29 Post No.7609828
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Anonymous 2016-01-21 20:44:29 Post No. 7609828 [Report] [View this topic]

How many pages should be left in the book you're reading until ordering another book from Amazon?

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Anonymous 2016-01-21 20:45:04 Post No.7609830
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>>7609828
>buying your books from Amazon

Fucking faggot, I'll fucking kill you

Anonymous 2016-01-21 20:46:14 Post No.7609835
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Anonymous 2016-01-21 20:46:14 Post No.7609835 [Report]

>buying any books
>ever

Are you being serious right now?

Anonymous 2016-01-21 20:55:37 Post No.7609863
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>>7609828
I have a backlog that's like 20 books deep. I've bargained with myself that this year I'll read 4 books on my backlog before getting a new one.

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Anonymous 2016-01-21 19:55:44 Post No. 7609677 [Report] [View this topic]

thoughts on this book?
also, post other works similiar with this one

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Anonymous 2016-01-21 19:56:28 Post No.7609679
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Anonymous 2016-01-21 19:56:28 Post No.7609679 [Report]

its good but reddit jerks it too much. humorous and executes well on what it set out to do. funny scenes, memorable moments. not really "literature"

Anonymous 2016-01-21 20:55:15 Post No.7609862
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>>7609677
Literally Reddit: the book.

Anonymous 2016-01-21 20:58:32 Post No.7609873
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>>7609677
it isn't Lem.

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Anonymous 2016-01-21 16:56:37 Post No. 7609181 [Report] [View this topic]

I'm reading Ficciones. So far, the book is great, but am I the only one who finds most of the references unnecessary?

For example:
>En la literatura de este hemisferio (como en el mundo subsistente de Meinong) abundan los objetos ideales
Why was the reference to Meinong's ideal objects necessary? It provides no further clarification of what is going on in the text.

>De esta estructura cabe repetir lo que declaró Schopenhauer de las doce categorías kantianas: todo lo sacrifica a un furor simétrico.
Here the names Schopenhauer or Kant hardly matter, it's hardly saying more than "like X said about Y".

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Anonymous 2016-01-21 17:03:04 Post No.7609212
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Is there anything specific I should read before getting into this? Do I need to understand certain specific references or can I just dive in?

Anonymous 2016-01-21 17:05:25 Post No.7609220
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Anonymous 2016-01-21 17:05:25 Post No.7609220 [Report]

Mexican knife fighting gauchos lmaoooooo

Anonymous 2016-01-21 17:06:22 Post No.7609224
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Anonymous 2016-01-21 17:06:22 Post No.7609224 [Report]

Borges sometimes likes to write in a pastiche of academic styles. I think you can figure it out from there...
They may also serve the same purpose as the contradictory details he often throws in. Not exactly misdirection, nor confusion... relativism, something in between all these.

>>7609212
No need to understand any references, beyond perhaps the basics of mythology in a couple cases. They enrich, but aren't required.

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Anonymous 2016-01-21 16:30:48 Post No. 7609093 [Report] [View this topic]

Was the Buddha a theist?

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Anonymous 2016-01-21 16:34:14 Post No.7609102
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Anonymous 2016-01-21 16:34:14 Post No.7609102 [Report]

Yes.

Anonymous 2016-01-21 18:07:03 Post No.7609402
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Anonymous 2016-01-21 18:07:03 Post No.7609402 [Report]

Apatheist.

Anonymous 2016-01-21 18:11:48 Post No.7609415
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Anonymous 2016-01-21 18:11:48 Post No.7609415 [Report]

Yes and a misogynist who enforced class oppression. He was far more violent than Confucius, Jesus or Muhammad.

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Anonymous 2016-01-20 16:31:51 Post No. 7605721 [Report] [View this topic]

What's up with all the has for Atlas Shrugged? I'm planning on reading it sometime soon. Will it turn me into a rich capitalist swine?

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Anonymous 2016-01-20 16:34:44 Post No.7605730
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Anonymous 2016-01-20 16:34:44 Post No.7605730 [Report]

Writing is pretty bad.
What being said, most of the hate it gets is due to this board being filled by Marxist leftcucks.

Anonymous 2016-01-20 16:58:19 Post No.7605793
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Anonymous 2016-01-20 16:58:19 Post No.7605793 [Report]

>>7605730
>Marxist leftcucks

Why are they ruining this board? They're essentially redditors.

Anonymous 2016-01-20 17:01:58 Post No.7605802
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It has fucking epic characters and writing dude. Pete don't like it here because they're fucking get cuckoos

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2016-01-19 14:06:30 Post No.7602119
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Anonymous 2016-01-19 14:06:30 Post No. 7602119 [Report] [View this topic]

How does one learn to write well?

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Anonymous 2016-01-19 14:09:19 Post No.7602121
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Anonymous 2016-01-19 14:09:19 Post No.7602121 [Report]

>>7602119
By reading.

Anonymous 2016-01-19 14:14:05 Post No.7602131
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Anonymous 2016-01-19 14:14:05 Post No.7602131 [Report]

study and practice grammar and rhetoric, read a lot of non-fiction

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>>7602131
No

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2016-01-13 21:57:05 Post No.7582051
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Anonymous 2016-01-13 21:57:05 Post No. 7582051 [Report] [View this topic]

bibliotik freeleech on retail ebooks
request that hard to find book you've been looking for and if it's there I'll upload to mega

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Anonymous 2016-01-13 22:07:34 Post No.7582102
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Anonymous 2016-01-13 22:07:34 Post No.7582102 [Report]

collected fiction by hannu rajaniemi

Anonymous 2016-01-13 22:08:24 Post No.7582108
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>>7582051
all 3 volumes of "Die Ästhetik des Widerstands" in german because only volume 1 has been translated into english since duke univeristy press is autistic

Anonymous 2016-01-13 22:11:59 Post No.7582122
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Gaddis - Recognitions

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Favorite book discussion 2016-01-22 06:44:52 Post No.7611690
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Favorite book discussion Anonymous 2016-01-22 06:44:52 Post No. 7611690 [Report] [View this topic]

>Title
>Author
>Genre
>Idea the book is exploring
>Plot of book

>>The War of the Worlds
>>Herbert. George. Wells.
>>Science fiction
>>British Colonialism
>>A race far more then man invades from mars, in order to colonize the more habitable planet

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Anonymous 2016-01-22 07:02:53 Post No.7611717
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>The Rum Diary
>Thompson
>Fiction
>I like to think it's like an early prophecy of the death of the print industry. Also alter egos, the treachery of white bitches and the Americanization of the Caribbean
>Semi autobiographical tale about a man who takes a job at dying Puerto Rican newspaper, he is a drunk and meets some shady businessmen.

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Anonymous 2016-01-22 06:40:36 Post No. 7611684 [Report] [View this topic]

Is there anything I need to read before reading The Recognitions? Can I go in 'cold'?

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Anonymous 2016-01-22 06:50:30 Post No.7611697
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Anonymous 2016-01-22 06:50:30 Post No.7611697 [Report]

Absolutely everything written before it, as you would for any other literary work.

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>>7611697
HAHAHA Thank you so much

Anonymous 2016-01-22 06:57:31 Post No.7611706
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Anonymous 2016-01-22 06:57:31 Post No.7611706 [Report]

For maximum enjoyment you need:

-Cringeworthy experiences with dumb art students

-Access to Wikipedia when you get to the party chapters. You'll need it to understand the jokes.

Done :)

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2016-01-22 05:56:29 Post No.7611596
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Anonymous 2016-01-22 05:56:29 Post No. 7611596 [Report] [View this topic]

How do I get acquainted with using literary terms when speaking to others about literature?

I feel so fucking dumb when some of my classmates talk to my professors in class. In other words, how do I git gud at literature?

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Anonymous 2016-01-22 06:11:01 Post No.7611631
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Anonymous 2016-01-22 06:11:01 Post No.7611631 [Report]

Read

Anonymous 2016-01-22 06:21:31 Post No.7611655
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>>7611596
Dip into literary criticism. Read the texts discussed. It doesn't really matter where you begin. You'll begin to find authors and critics whose views are compatible with or challenge yours in interesting ways.

Anonymous 2016-01-22 06:26:23 Post No.7611662
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Anonymous 2016-01-22 06:26:23 Post No.7611662 [Report]

>>7611596
most of them are probably just reciting some literary criticism they read online

see Patrick Bateman when he talks about Phil Collins or HueHue Lewis, he's just mechanically reciting (or trying to) what he's heard to sound smart without actually thinking about what he's saying.