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>>7980780
why do you always post this
/lit/ trivia time
What author is a descendant of this man?
Frank Zappa
>>7980777
Arthur Miller
>>7980790
No.
Should everyone just start with this book?Yes
just wondering what are your thoughts on the books in the series
I enjoyed the first one but quit like halfway through the 3rd book should I give it another try?
>>7980737
>tfw when I haven't finished it, but I like it so much that I had to post on /lit/
>>7980737
I read the series nearly ten years ago, so I don’t remember it too well, but from what I remember it becomes somewhat meandering and soon loses any semblance of plot it had, until it’s found again in the final book. That said, they are rather short, so if you enjoy them you might as well read them alll.
The other thread is dying, so
Poetry Critique thread
>>7980731
The other thread is higher than yours and isn't even half filled.
>sage
I saved your poem and I'm going to publish it in a book of other stolen poems from threads like these and there is nothing you can do about it.
>>7980817
What's it called?
Novels that end with the protagonist or a main character becoming 'broken' or greatly more cynical?
Thinking along the lines of Full Metal Jacket here, if that helps.
1984
South of the Border, West of the Sun
Anna Karenina (Vronsky)
Disgrace
Gravity's Rainbow (Slothrop, not sure this is quite what you're going for though)
The Brothers Karamazov and The Idiot
>>7980688
People always mock 1984 for being "entry-level" or a high school book but personally I found the protagonist's time in the ministry of truth horrifying and really powerful.
The ending as well was oddly emotional in its own way
What the ~HECK~ is this book? It is called "INFINITE JETS" but there is not a single aircraft within, in fact the book is about people on land with drugs problems. THIS IS A BAIT AND SWITCH. I guess the ~JETS~ could be describing how the characters get "HIGH" but in my opinion this is just a cheap trick to sell this book to avid fans of AERONAUTICS such as myself.
I collect books like "JANE'S" which show many jets and describe the jets so obviously a ~HEAVY TOME~ named "INFINITE JETS" should satisfy my jet needs for at least a few months. But no, no jets at all. Just tennis and complaining. The book contains many 'end-notes' but none of them are about jets either.
This book is something like eight thousand pages and has no pictures at all. The author seems to think he is a ~BIG SMARTIE~ but he is not a prophet he seems like a dumb POTHEAD, and also he obviously knows NOTHING about jets.
I would not recommend you purchase this book unless you hate jets. There are many other, better, books about jet planes and most of them are NOT named so misleadingly.
Mr. Foster Wallace -- I want my money back.
>>7980641
How do you actually get bored to the point of writing this
>>7980641
7/10
inb4 this thread takes off
get it?
Who /Clancy/ here?
Why does /lit/ think he's pleb?
>>7980628
Even the rightwing minority here don't strike me as warhawks of the American sort.
He's more remembered as that guy who makes money off of games.
So the e/lit/ists categorize him "pleb"
Personally, I couldn't get through Debt of Honor. lost interest.
I think his books would be far better if he cut out the filler.
>>7980727
But then he wouldn't have books
How does /lit/ feel about this?
>>7980595
why don't you tell us what you feel about it first you lazy turd
>>7980612
It's alright so far, just not sure if I should get invested in it
Ask in the containment thread.
I've just finished pic related and I think it's his best work, much better and more mature than IJ. The Chris Fogle chapter is along with Good Old Neon the best thing I've ever read by Wallace and maybe even among the best things I've ever read in general. When he spoke about his father and discovered that he might have been not as stiff and empty as he always imagined him to be I nearly cried. I swear.I'm Writer
Immediately after I've finished the book, I read the notes DFW left and it's too sad that he couldn't finish it, especially the relationship between Meredith Rand, her husband and this autist could have become extremely interesting.
What were your favorite chapters and how did you like the book? And can anyone tell me 1) what this paranormal levitating and phantom shit was about and 2) who this grumpy and sad kid in the look back in chapter 23 was?
My favorite chapter was the one I've told to another anon at the DFW thread created 15 mins ago. The two questions you're asking though, I answered them at that 3 hours old DFW thread (not the first one!). I'm confused, so many DFWs!
>>7980592
The Toni Ware introduction, Chris Fogle introduction, and the "metafictional titty-pinching" is all great.
I'm actually still reading it right now but it definitely has the potential to unthrone IJ for me. Unfortunately, I think it's unfinished state might prevent it from crossing that threshold.
The chapter with the young couple at the lake is my favorite.
Who are some good fat authors?
>>7980473
Alexander "Wine and dine then bum a ho so fine" Kielland.
Samuel Johnson and G. K. Chesterton immediately come to mind. Balzac looks quite heavy in his photos, as does Dumas.
>>7980473
Rex Stout for fiction
Edward Gibbon for non fic
hey /lit/. I checked the archive and looked for my problem, and I hope this isn't something that gets posted TOO frequently. really don't mean to be "that guy."
I'm 21 years old and haven't finished a book in my life. I always hear "find something you like", but shit mang, I've tried reading books that sound appealing many times.
found out I have adult ADHD a few months ago, so that was obviously part of the problem, but I still get a weird loneliness when I try to read, like everyone else is out living life while I'm sitting inside doing nothing (I play games and stuff, but don't get the same feeling).
just wondering if anyone else has had the same problem, or if there's a certain book that really grabbed you, or something. I don't know. I feel as if I'm fairly smart/have a pretty broad vocabulary, so I don't think it's difficulty of reading. maybe reading something "popular" would make me feel less of this loneliness. any recommendations?
any and all advice is appreciated, brothers. let me know if I should take this to /adv/. not tryna step on any toes.
How are you dealing with the ADHD now?
Do you think reading has a meaning to you?
Maybe you could try to join or a book club, or even just read the same book at the same time with a friend?
I sometimes feel lonely reading books if I have nobody to discuss them with.
>>7980489
I'm on adderall and have a therapist for the depression/adhd stuff.
Meaning? I'm not sure. I feel like there's a lot of knowledge and great stories that I could be experiencing. I'm looking to improve my life in a lot of ways at the moment (quitting porn, exercising, meditating, etc.), and reading just seems like a great habit to pick up. seems like a thing "successful" people do. I see myself as ignorant/childish for not reading.
Though I do agree that starting with the greeks is good advice. Everything else seems to only be relevant to americans and american students or those who wish to study american culture (such as english).
There's barely any discussion about anything else but great american masterpieces, and a few others that also considered masterpieces largely by americans and studied in the american environment.
And verily I say onto you, while there's little discussion outside american-relevant literature, there's no thread in the whole board that tries to discuss anything else but subjects that are of american interest.
Let's speak frank here, should foreigners (I don't mean le canada foreigners, but like, eastern european, african, asian foreigners) even bother with this board if they aren't interested in american subjects of interest? I am well read and even so I feel out of place here. There are so many authors that nobody on this site ever heard about, and I just find myself absently browsing the /sffg/ thread and barely anything else.
le blog over.
I wouldn't say it is strictly American, but lit is Western centric. Face it, the best literature created has came from the west. It's not just English though, there is plenty of discussion on Russian, German, French and even Greek literature. But its an English speaking board so i don't know what you'd expect.
>>7980445
The United States is intellectually, economically, politically, and culturally the most powerful and important country on the planet right now. If /lit/ wasn't constantly discussing American culture then it would be outright ignorant of us. Whether you're a privileged civus Americanus or an imperialized country, it is every intellectual's duty to study the United States and form a personal framework around this nation, be it positive or negative.
>>7980564
This, Neil Degrasse Tyson and Sam Harris are the greatest minds to have ever lived
Its not fair bros
this was supossed to be the meme book of this year!
I'm sorry but that doesn't sound like a meme book
are there any books of analytic philosophy that explicitly deal with Hegel's thought?
Ideally someone American. thx.
analytic philosophy was basically a reaction against Hegel. Do you mean someone who reacted to him even if they flipped around what Hegel originally said?
>>7980432
wikipedia seems to imply that analytic interest in Hegel has increased in the last decade.
I'm mostly wondering why wikipedia would say that. Is that edit just totally wrong?
Robert Brandom and John McDowell.
what books do you wish /lit would actually read so we could have a conversation about them ?
>city of god - paulo lins
>the once and future king -T.H. white
>vurt - jeff noon
Infinite Jest
>>7980404
I've read that one. what would you like to discuss
Gödel escher bach By Douglas Hofstadter
The hypersphere by anon