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Has anyone read this? Is it worth purchasing? I noticed it in my local bookshop yesterday and it has some good reviews online. While I understand it's not meant to be a scientific basis on gender dynamics in the modern era, I'm dissuaded by the potential pseudoscience opinions from an un-credible author (I can't find out much about his qualifications/experiences online, other than the website he runs).
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>>7981140
You can just read the website. Pretty sure it's all on there
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I read parts of it and like it. It's just the content of his blog and I don't see how how cridibility or un-credibility regarding psychology matters much. He's just reflecting on observations with the principle of female hypergame in mind (women are aware that they are sexually desired by hundreds of guys they pass bye each day and thus their standards are to always date up). From there it's very basic argument and the conclusion and implied guide how to behave with women is thus the interesting aspect.
It's looking at things such as
http://imgur.com/r/ChangingRooms
and being honest enough to say that objectification isn't a purely male enterprise but might be biologically hard wired to everyone and related to value men and women are given or value they can obtain.
It's not a scientific text and it's merit is that the guy doesn't try to be politically correct.
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>>7982270
Here is an essay on the differences discussed from an academic
http://denisdutton.com/baumeister.htm
The Rational Male book then takes this anti-equality idea and makes it into an ideology. And then discusses personal relationships in terms of the alpha-beta meme
What is your opinion on Joseph McElroy? And what is the best place to start?
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There's a good chart I downloaded once hold on keep this thread alive for a few hours and I'll be able to post it
Basically start with Night Soul and other stories
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>>7982113
McElroy is one of the best post-war writers. I recommend you start with The Lookout Cartridge or A Smuggler's Bible, and that you avoid Cannonball and Women and Men at all costs, since those are likely to turn you away from him.
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Hey /lit/, /biz/ question here.
Why don't all of you write e books and sell them on amazon? You don't even have to be good at writing. You could just write some page turner thriller or robots fuck vampires 7 or any shit that sells well on there.
There are heaps and heaps of easy tactics to use to sell these books, then eventually you can capitalise on the popularity of you as an author and write real books you want to write, while still selling copies.
Done. You are now doing exactly what i would imagine 75% of people on this board want to be. And getting paid for it. And it takes very little effort?
What's stopping you?
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>>7982104
well I stopped the moment I realize that all that fantasy of unlimited richness and fame was all but a marketing illusion that amazon's been shoving in my ass, real hard. Now, I'm doing my writing and looking for a normal publisher. That's what stopped me.
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>>7982104
If you go to blackhatforum there are tons of threads on how to crank out erotica and sell them. When you have 500+ books on fetishes apparently you can generate quite a stream of income.
Also
>very little effort
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>>7982104
So, tell us, how much money do you make with this idea?
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So I Just Read This Short Story Collection
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and the verdict is breddy gud
Rob Doyle is a very /lit/ writer. He's a bookish young man writing about bookish young men for the most part.
Some might see that as a limitation, but since I'm a bookish young man myself, I don't mind a bit.
I saw a bit of myself in some of the characters he writes about even though he's a potato and I'm a burger.
Like a lot of potatoes, he's much more well-travelled than my provincial suburban ass. Germany, Spain, Paris, Mexico, London, the settings are varied for these stories.
We've definitely read a lot of the same authors, including Nietzsczshe, Cioran, Joyce, Beckett, Borges, Sebald, Bernhard, Bataille and Burroughs. He seems like the type of potato who might drop in on /lit/ to shitpost from time to time.
He tries Burroughs cut-up method at one point. That was my least favorite part of the collection. It was pretty annoying even back when Burroughs first came up with it. Nobody else bothered picking it back up in the intervening 50 years with good reason. Naturally it's the title story.
In another story he tries to narrate from a psycotic's viewpoint. I wasn't convinced.
Those were my least favorite stories.
Also he seems to have a scat fetish or cloacal obsession when incest fetish is the true patrician fetish. But I nitpick. I was very impressed.
The first two stories really made an impression on me. Naturally the ones about mad, funny, sad, sensitive, gifted but futile young men. Men with an artistic sensibility but limited by mental illness and sadness. They're capable of moments of clarity, humor, and insight at times but it's never going to lead anywhere. Their mental illness is always going to limit them. I know a few guys like that and see aspects of it in myself.
It got me right in the feels. It shook me up enough that I felt compelled to write all this.
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Rob Doyle is shit. Here Are The Young Men is just an edge-fest. His article on Houellebecq is very good but otherwise he conducts himself like a tryhard Nietzsche / Cioran fan.
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>>7982153
>he conducts himself like a tryhard Nietzsche / Cioran fan.
Well I did say that he seems like the kind of guy that shitposts here.
>I do things like get in a taxi and say, "The library, and step on it."
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hehe dosto was so quirky :)
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i love this meme
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let's get this out of the way once and for all
http://www.strawpoll.me/10088715
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Crying is the shorter and easier (in my opinion also better) book.
The only reason you'd read V first is because it is his first novel and you want to "see his genius unfold" through the rest of his books or some windbag shit like that.
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>>7981993
>Starting with V.
V. is too disjointed and complicated for a new person to Pynchon, I recommend reading a lot of his other works before it though since you really need to be used to his style and comedy, Crying Lot is great, easier to comprehend and only really gets any flack because of how short it is. I enjoyed how ambient it was though.
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>>7982006
you wouldn't recommend GR before V, would you?
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If at one of us on this board could publish a book and hit it big, what would you like the book to be about?
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>>7981926
tfw no gf
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First post best post
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>>7981926
admit it, you are only here because you want use to ask you about your shit book, and you will take that chance to market the shit out of it in the hope that some of the faggots here will buy it. What is your amazon link?
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i work all day, and get half-stoned at night.
Awake at four twenty to soundless dark, I blaze.
In time the curtain-edges will grow light.
Till then I’ll see what’s always in my gaze:
Dank sticky buds, a whole lot higher now,
Making all thought impossible, oh wow,
But where and when I shall get more high.
Bubble hash inhalation: yet the dread
Of drymouth, eyes being red,
Flashes afresh to hold and horrify.
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Good work anon, do Love Again next.
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What a poem, Mark!
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Would studying philosophy significantly enhance my understanding of fiction?
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probably
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Yes. All critical theory is is philosophy.
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>>7981906
no. none of the characters are into what is termed philosophy by universities.
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Hey /lit/, I'm a fucking pleb but I want to read Shakespeare because that's what smart people do, can you kind people point me in the right direction for some good annotated editions of his work?
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Oxford Shakespeare
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>>7981887
If English is your first language you shouldn't need annotations. If you ever reach a passage you don't totally get, read it through a few times and you should get it. Doing this, I've never had a problem understanding shakespeare. There's some words like ere and wherefore that you might need to learn the meaning of but t b h f a m I covered that in high school.
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What is the negro spiritual of literature?
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>>7981880
The Souls of Black Folk by WEB DuBois
It reads like a religious sermon
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>>7981880
Great book by the way, I wish I wrote it.
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Ishmael Reed, Mumbo Jumbo
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What are the best illustrated versions of Alice's Adventures in Wonderland and Through the Looking Glass?
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TdChizrilifeeelindupahrwteh
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Of course
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>>7981862
came here to post this
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Can someone explain to me why Slaughterhouse Five is a good book?
I just read it and it seems to really ramble on. The story doesn't feel to be all that good either. Couldn't he have made the same points he wanted to make but in a more straightforward and pleasant manner?
I liked Cat's Cradle though.
Also any recommendations for more accessible literary classics?
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It's not, Reddit lied to you.
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>>7981750
this
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In the years since Slaughterhouse-Five was first published in 1969, it has become part of the world’s consciousness. The book explores fate, free will, and the illogical nature of human beings. Its sensibility is a direct descendant of that of Mark Twain, who, like Vonnegut, used humor to deal with the world’s horrors. Vonnegut was anti-war, anti-religion, anti-hypocrisy, anti-the-glamorizing-of-war, and was specifically opposed to the bombing of Dresden, a city which was not supposed to be bombed because of its art and architectural treasures. This was one of Vonnegut’s many paradoxes. Art was sufficient to protect a city from being bombed—but the loss of human life was not important enough. In fact, the destruction of people was the point and purpose of war.
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Just marathoned the first paragraph of this. Is it any good?
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Best post I've seen all week
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Love loves to love love.
>A long-lost book-length guide to “manly health” by Walt Whitman, in which the great American poet tackles everything from virility to “care of the feet” and the attainment of a “nobler physique”, has been rediscovered by a scholar, more than 150 years after it was first published under a pen-name.
Whitman - the first merging of /fit/ and /lit/?
http://www.theguardian.com/books/2016/apr/30/walt-whitman-revealed-as-author-of-manly-health-guide
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Anyone else here read some of Whitman's pre-Walt stories?
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bumping because this should be stickied tbqh
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>>7982096
Sad thing is /lit/ hates Whitman.