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>>7985580
Who the fuck are you quoting?

>>7985580

I'm shit at poetry but found Prufrock totally accessible.

>>7985615
I can either take it for its face value projection of a creative introvert's (borderline autist's) take on the world and social conventions (with of course the quintessential 'I'm a good poet look at me' crap grinded into this exalted nihilist mortar). Or a means to which Eliot soon found amusement as the masses rushed to decode just why the fuck he put an extract from Dante's Inferno in his poem. Touche smeliot

>>7985575
the greeks

Your reading order is all whack if you start with that one! Start with Human, All Too Human

The Twilight of the Idols may follow, I don't have a good copypasta right now

>>7985593
I think Twilight of the Idols is a better intro to his thought, HATH is loaded with good stuff but can get tiresome. I particularly liked his advice for writers and how in the first fifty or so pages he basically writes out the entire basis of Freud's body of work.

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>>7985527
http://sci-hub.cc/

No I hear you OP. I'm in a similar position myself. I'm currently worldbuilding for my first novel and having a kid to look after really does distract me so much, it's hard to stay on track. Sometimes I'll be 'in the zone' writing some really epic part of the book and my wife's son will come in and ask if he can 'axe me a question' which of course I always do. But then when I try and get back to my writing I forget where I was and have to wait until inspiration strikes again. Good luck you my man.

I think you should grow up and be a family man.
There's like a 99.999% chance that your gf is right and that your writing attempts really are pathetic.
Just being totally honest.

>>7985525
post some of your writing so we can know if you should actually keep doing it

>>7985508
he started the 'start with the Greeks' meme.

they're all about his mongoloid conception of greatness. They essentially all diverge on greatness.

And no, they are absolutely not worth reading

>>7985510
That was Goethe, whom Nietzsche admired

Write a logline. In about 25 words, identify the protagonist, his situation, and what challenge he faces.

Figure out the word count you need. This usually depends on the market you plan to submit the story to. Say a magazine wants stories of about 4,000 words.

Work out a three act structure. It's actually four acts but whatever. Each of these should be about equal in length.

Act 1: 1,000 words
Act 2A: 1,000 words
Act 2B: 1,000 words
Act 3: 1,000 words

There are plot points you need in or between each act, but that's a bit much to get into here. Just google three act structure.

You might also need to work out a backstory and a chronology.

Once you have your act structure, you can start breaking things down into scenes. Basically just write what characters are involved, where they are, and what the scene accomplishes to move the plot forward. Each scene should have its own dramatic movement and climax.

That's your outline. From there, work in descriptions, dialogue, and scene transitions, and you'll have a story.

You don't necessarily need an outline.

Simon pegg uploaded a picture of worlds end following the monomyth. That might help if you're familiar with it. Shouldn't take much googling to find it.

>>7985475
u fuken kiddn me m8

I dig David Tacey. His books are expensive af though.

bookzz.org, completely justified

physical book theft isn't even an issue, I just go to the store and read the book then leave if I want it that badly

https://xkcd.com/294/

>>7985468
I fucking love this one. The way you start to feel and then with the very last panel and that NO and that fucking face! Gets me every time.

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Yeah I do. I bring a backpack to book stores that don't have security cameras, and when no one is around, I take whatever I wanna pick up, store it in the backpack and leave.

The last book I stole was Persuasion.

Do your own homework, faggot.

>>7985474
It's called getting other people's interpretations and ideas, nothing wrong with that. Besides I thought the book's great, and will have no trouble discussing it.

>>7985467
decline of the Southern Aristocrat family
dysfunctional family drama
incest/doubling
nihilism - from Mister Compson and from the title
race relations
Christ figure stuff with Benjy
more Christian themes in Reverend Daddy's sermon
futile male attempts to control female sexuality
who's an idiot? (hint who tells the tales? yes, even Harvard boy with the big vocabulary is an idiot in a way)

Incoherent dialogue. You need a notebook to remember who's talking.

>>7985405
not very difficult if you have any perception at all

>>7985405
>>7985411
>>7985416
The truth lies somewhere between the extremes.
Fuck I don't really know. Maybe it doesn't.
I havent read it
I just heard that saying on a fortune cookie and wanted to use it.

>>7985369
Lem's Cyberiad.

The story goes like this:

>>7985447
I'm not looking for someone who totally agrees with transhumanism and wants to show that it's the best thing ever, if that's what it is. Just saying.

I'll check it anyway, thanks anon.

>>7985206
"My Diary, To Be Honest"
a poem, by Anon

imagine an onion
each layer another mask
worn just for you
play pretend I'm painless pumpkin
cut deep, and find only your own tears

you don't need to have read the entire western canon. if you're familiar with shakespeare, the bible and the greeks you're fine for the tunnel, ulysses and just about anything with "references".

>>7985116
nice one uncle

>>7985122
im not your uncle thanks

i enjoyed this and i dont usually enjoy faggot shit

>>7984991
I'm reading it right now as well OP. I'm loving it. I feel like I can breathe after a lifetime of dying. Pesso a so perfectly captures profound arguments for solitude, literature, and has some fascinating rejections of common obsessions that were way ahead of his time.

Well it may seem like a bunch of quotes because it really isn't a book with a linear story; however, if you put effort on what you are reading you will find a perspective of life from a depressive man that is very rational and very lucid. It is not an easy reading but it is an extremely rewarding one; much like his poetry.

>inspirational quotes
i hope you're joking