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What is the most beautiful and endearing depiction of femininity in literature?
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>>8006050
From what I've read, Penelope and Sonya
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Inb4 Molly's soliloquy
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>>8006050
natasha in war & peace makes everyone think of audrey hepburn
this film probably intentionally ripped off the scene with natasha on the balcony with prince andrey below
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We never really talk much about Russian philosophers here (inb4 dosto)
Has anyone read anything by Aleksei Losev, for instance?
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Don't want to shit up your thread, but the only Russian Philosopher I know is Aszacra Zarathustra (even got him as a friend on facebook (yeah yeah facebook ree normie get out)) and he's funny as shit, check him out.
But on a serious note, rec something?
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>>8005882
Shestov is boss. The Russians mostly owned existentialism actually.
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Heavily /lit/-related
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikhail_Bakhtin
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Gravity's Rainbow Edition?
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I just ordered this edition, /lit/. Did I fuck up? Is there a better edition out there (other than the $300 hardcovers) that I should get instead?
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>>8005869
That version's perfect as far as we all know. You did fine.
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>>8005877
Thanks. I'd heard that there were some editions with pretty severe typos so I wanted to check.
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>>8005869
I have this edition and its great, don't worry yourself anon. Is most 'Vintage' stuff generally of high quality?
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looking for patrician senpais to learn things from and be humiliated for being a pleb by
for context, we are a bunch of neets who like to talk about books we've not read and make conversation
https://discord.gg/0ssJKGTbo2quQlsV
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>>8005831
here's a (You), on the house
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>>8005831
the discord is full of faggot russians.
saved you all a click.
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>>8005920
I agree.
Can somebody who knows Dickens' oeuvre well separate his novels into easy, medium, and hard categories for me?
Thanks.
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Nah
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>>8005820
Literally all easy.
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>>8005820
His works start off easy and go into medium then hard as his career progresses. Although it's not like late Dickens is too difficult to enjoy. His plots, the subtleties and ironies, and symolism, get more complex, but they can still be enjoyed as straightforward novels.
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What does it mean when you can't live with her and can't live without her?
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It means it's time for you to man up.
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it means it's time to talk about motherfucking books
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How is the Wordsworth edition of Ulysses?
It can't be that bad,right?Since it's in english.
Do these books fall apart easily?
Even the cover looks okay.
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Why would you willingly buy a Wordsworth publication of anything
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>>8005987
because it's cheap?
Extremely cheap at that.
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>>8005997
You really can't spend an extra 5 bucks on an edition with adequate quality?
You buy books to keep them forever, do you not?
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Good books for social anxiety?
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You mean books on being a self-pitying coward who made the mistake of not speaking up one time and has made the same mistake again and again since that point until the notion of communicating meaningfully with another human being seems so surreal and "awkward" that your only resort is to interpret your flaw not as some weakness on your part but as some sort of evidence that you are too cerebral to form relationships with other people and participate in discussions where you aren't the figure of attention and the point around which the discussion revolves? Get real kid. I mean it. You keep acting like this and life will pin you down and weigh so much that you will be rendered incapable of living in a healthy and genuine way and will instead be forced to retreat to the infant-like state of apathetic isolation wherein your imagine will allow you a pathetic pseudo-experience of the kinds of things your so-called "condition" is preventing you from experiencing for real.
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>>8005731
Yes. Any reccs?
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>>8005731
Your post didn't need to be that long.
Here:
>I don't understand social anxiety
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Lads, the spooks ate closing in on me. If I don't like Dickens then someone is there to call me a pleb. If I haven't read Shakespeare then someone is there to call me a pleb. Similarly for all sorts of authors. If people actually read all that shit people say that people should read, they'd spend fucking years on it.
And they never mention the F word: fun. Why the fuck do I have to pretend that "PENETRATING INSIGHTS" are hidden within novels? Hey DeLillo, you senile fuck, why not you write something enjoyable to read? Hey Pynchon, am I being paranoid if I say that I'm being pressured to fuel the academia-media-publishing (ponzi) industry with money?
Even Stirner's book was way too long. I gave up after less than one hundred pages, and he could've summarised the whole thing in a paragraph.
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Give me a list of your 10 favorite books.
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>>8005726
A rough list
The Mysteries of Pittsburgh
The amazing adventures of kavalier and clay
Lolita
The Rules of Attraction
My Twisted World
Slaughterhouse 5
LA Confidential
The Big Nowhere
American Tabloid
The Secret History
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>>8005745
Wow. huh
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Is the the school of resentment winning the battle /lit/ ?
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>>8005697
They've won it a long time ago, Harold.
You've said before, something like, "I can't believe the common reader will ever die," that there will always be people who will read great literature for characters, their stories, their voices, and overall aesthetic spleandor. However, looking at how the only people who read the classics treat them only as weight lifting, apparently the common reader is dying out too.
Deep Reading is a dead activity, Harold.
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>>8005697
nobody won.
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>>8005724
Should I read Voyage to Arcturus?
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Writing ability decreases as muscle mass increases.
Any objections?
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bodybuilding is useless
its all about the face
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Mishima would disagree
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>>8005567
I would certainly imagine his physical ability to write easily would decrease, considering the way that his biceps appear to impede his ability to put his arms out in front of him.
I need recommendations for a good, faithful translation of Rumi. I don't want Coleman Barks' free interpretations, because they are most certainly not faithful to the originals.
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>>8005523
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>>8005523
if you really want to get Mevlânâ you have to learn the language. i know thats not what you want to hear but thats the truth unfortunately.
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>>8005543
Yes that's not what I wanted to hear. Aren't there any good, literal translations?
Why is Victorian literature so relentlessly boring? I'm about to give up on Nicholas Nickleby. Dracula was a good 50 pages and then 300 pages of almost fuck all. Dorian Gray was just ten trillion aphorisms thrown in to a book and I gave up on that as well.
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dont talk shit about the picture of dorian gray
but granted, dickens is pretty dull
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Like anon said. Dorian Gray is excellent and you ought to revisit it.
Dracula's boring though
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Because Victorian people were boring. All culture from before 1945 needs to be burned, and the people responsible are worthless.
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Who's worth reading from the classic 20th century American novelists, i.e. Fitzgerald, Faulkner, Steinbeck, Salinger, etc.? Where do I start?
I never read any of them in high school (except Hemingway, who I enjoy)...
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Green and Rowling are essentials
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>I never read any of them in high school (except Hemingway, who I enjoy)...
Every time I see this on /lit/ I'm baffled. How fucking lazy were you people?
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Faulkner and Fitzgerald are good. Salinger and Steinbeck are OK.
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Post good poets from 1970-now
>YOU CAN'T
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Uhh yes I can
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRl8EIhrQjQ
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>>8005452
Born in 1970 or after? Or still active after 1970?
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>>8005469
lol, at first i thought it was an snl skit