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BOY

HE BOUT TO DO IT
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>>8013702
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>paperbacks
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>>8013710
frog me dad

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Does anyone else automatically feel like their writing is bad whenever bits of modernish pop-culture get mixed in?

I'm writing a story where a main character is a mactard and no matter how good or bad my writing is, when I reference the brand (or a generic knock-off of it) it just feels shitty even though the presence of apple products has symbolic importance
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>>8013683
What symbolic importance could it possibly have? Original sin?
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>>8013683
Sorry about the Pomo :-(

To consider: don't reference the brand. Imagine that someone's reading it 100 years later and don't know anything about apples GUI. Don't reference a brand name or anything, show us what it is and why it's bad
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>>8013683
reference it in an ironic and self-aware way.

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Finished the book /lit/.

What the heck happened in the Year of Glad?

I've read theories online that it was a delayed reaction to the fungus Hal ate as a kid, and others that say he watched the antidote-film, which reversed his ability to communicate (like light through an optical lens, ha ha) and so he went from being a literary genius to a unintelligible neanderthal (from an observer's p.o.v.)
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>>8013614
yeah but he wasn't really able to feel before.

I always go back to that one flashback where he is trying to talk to himself but himself cant understand what he's saying
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>>8013624
what's the significance of that?
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has anyone on /lit/ read this?

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What's your favorite audiobook of all time?
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Knifepoint Horror
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Story of Civilization by Will Durant (but only the old school cassette version read by Alexander Adams not the new remake with different readers for each book and too slick production)
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>>8013601
Keith Richards' autobiography narrated by Johnny Depp
it's indescribably awesome

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what does /lit/ think about this?
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>it's one of the best books ever written
>it's good, but overrated
>it's not great, but an interesting evolution in the sense that it was one if the first books to really attempt to appeal to young adults, but it's not that good
>it's bad, it beats you over the head with symbolism and the unreliability of the narrator
>it's terrible, I hate Holden
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>>8013590
/thread
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Pretty good, but some people just praise it too much

where do I start with Jung?
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Plot - Design (Shadow)

Theme - Plataea or "booth" (Unconscious Selves)

Character - Locus or "point" (Conscious Ego)

???
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>get a gun
>shoot yourself
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>>8013551
OMG UFOS AMIRITE

there ya go

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Start with the Greeks?
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I thought 4cc shit was banned on /lit/.
What do you guys think of the last match vs /his/? Gonna make it a rivalry?
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>>8013603
This isn't a cup thread, it's a Greek literature thread
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What the hell happened to that magazine lit used to have, with works of anons and stuff?
Why did you stop?

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What non-fiction have you enjoyed recently? I'm most of the way through pic related, and it's pretty good.

I've also recently read Fear and Loathing on the Campaign Trail '72 and The Half Has Never Been Told (both books that I think every American should read, although I take issue with the way the latter is written).

What else should I be reading?
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In Cold Blood by Truman Capote
The War for Late Night by Billy Carter
The Bible by God
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I'm about 800 pages into The Decline and Fall of the Roman Meme.
Eh, bretty gud.
Can only remember like 1/10th of what has happened so far. Whenever I get to a church chapter my autism sense tingles delightfully.
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>>8013513
>The Bible
>by God

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Well this wasn't very good.

Some beautiful poetry, but fragmentary and incoherent. Like what does the Gretchen story even have to do with Faust's wager? And Faust himself is a rather inconsistent character...

I don't think I'm going to bother with Part 2. .
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Gretchen gives Faust love. Faust wants infinite knowledge, and Mephistopheles gives him the knowledge of the human heart, since he already knew everything intellectually.
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>>8013436
>Some beautiful poetry, but fragmentary and incoherent
lol
I wish you dweebs would stop calling things 'incoherent', my backlog is big enough.
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>>8013458
It literally is incoherent though. Goethe wrote the thing over a 30 year period in different phases.

I read in the introduction that he didn't even want to return to the thing until Schiller persuaded him to.

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I enjoy writing but I'm not as big of a reader as most of the serious users. I probably read less than 20 books a year. Is reading a requisit for writing or is it just that famous writers tend to read a lot? Is it causation or just correlation?

I know DFW had a huge library, but a lot of his reading was clear crap and he knew it so I can't see it as training as much as entertaining. Hemmmingway also was an avid reader but it was tied to getting to know the authors he liked, he had a secondary interest to his habit. I know there are no studies about this since it would be impposible to meassure or make a placebo group, I'd like to read your own opinions.
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>Is reading a requisit for writing?
It's usually a requisit for writing well. You learn how to write properly by reading and analyzing what you read.
A writer is influenced by what he reads, but it doesn't go like "read good stuff->get used to good stuff->write good stuff". You learn how to set up scenes, how to use words and grammar... by reading and analyzing, even if it is bad stuff or not great works from the Canon.
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>>8013258
I do take time and enjoy editing, I can recognize clear improvements whenever I revisit a text so I assume that at some level my taste is improving (or maybe changing). I've also read a good amount of theory books, from Aristotle to Pierce, and I enjoy more an abstract understanding of how things work than deconstructing every single novel or short story I get. Although that last part may be just sloth...
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>>8013308
You're fine I guess. Although I'm not talking about metodically analyzing stories. I'm talking about recognizing patterns, dynamicas and all of that, dunno, I just do it unconsciously by now.
However, as long as you read as a habit, enjoy it and understand what you read, you're fine. Just to know, what books did you read in 2015?

QUICK, /LIT/.

YOU HAVE TO HAND IN 100 WORD ESSAY ON YOUR FAVORITE BOOK BUT THE DEADLINE IS TOMORROW.

WHAT DO YOU DO
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kill self
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You should have done it earlier instead of posting in the Bathroom u retard
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>>8013195
wait oh shit what book are we allowed to do it on any???

Suffering from a terrible writer's block for my novelette after 15k words. Please give me ideas, or just anything to pull me out of the slump.

The story takes place in the world where you can pre-incarcerate yourself to commit a crime later. You get immunity from prosecution and punishment for an amount equivalent to the time you served. The minimum is fourteen and the maximum is fifty.

In my story the main character just got out after serving fifty years, and everyone is scared for the crime he is about to commit. There are flashbacks to his past, and another guy with immunity is sent after him to stop him.

But I can't ascribe an awesome motive to him. There was an idea I was working on earlier, but in retrospect it seems weak compered to the immense amount of tension I've built up so far. I'm afraid it will be very anti-climatic. (Although I'm not looking for a critique at this stage, as I'm not finished, but I can share the first few chapters if you'd like to have a look.)

So please give me ideas- if such a thing existed, what could be the most mind-boggling thing you'd go in voluntarily for?
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Seems to me like with this setup, it would have to involve his personal relationships right around the time he committed himself. Of course, fast forward 50 years and even the youngest person he could've known is now middle aged.
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Or he started his sentence with the idea of committing a crime involving a personal relationship, but while in jail he became more and more dissatisfied with the society he lives in and in prison plans one of the most elaborate coup d'états in history.
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>>8013206
He went to jail when he was twelve (this law applies to juveniles).

The way the original plan went was like this: his father used to be a chemist and had partially synthesized a miracle drug that he had extracted from a plant/flower that blooms once in sixty years. The drug had major side effects, which he couldn't eliminate. Evil corporate bosses wanted him to reduce the side-effects, but he resisted, saying that if even one in ten people have a chance of experiencing it, he won't do it. They kill him and pass it off as suicide. Before that he is able to burn down all the samples of said plants from the company's nursery/lab.

The evil corporation gets another chemist to pretend to be a real estate agent and seduce the widow. He marries her and moves in. He is to find his notes, and the specimens that they suspect the original scientist hid.

But the new guy is unable to create a good copy, from the few vegetative stalks he could find from the scientist's old lab. He isn't able to replicate it, much less eliminate the side effect. He administers a dose to his step daughter (MC's step-sister, who MC loves a lot).

The step daughter starts showing symptoms and spurts of violence, where she has immense strength and resistance. In general, she is immune to many diseases and heals quickly. But the spasms of violence make it not worth it.

Long story short, step-daughter accidently kills her dad. Before dying, step-dad tells step-son (MC) and daughter to destroy all research and say that he ran away leaving them behind.

The company is furious, now that everything is gone. But they suspect that there is a "living specimen" and they suspect the MC to be it. They threaten the family, and MC straight goes and say, I am the specimen. But before they can get to him, he goes to jail and says "I wanna spend the next fifty years for a crime to commit in the future."

So tl;dr- he went to jail to divert attention from and protect his step-sister, who was the real "specimen". Incidentally, there are samples of the flower hidden in the wilderness and by the time he gets out, they'll be ready to bloom again. But I haven't decided what to do with that.

What is even the purpose of analytic philosophy if it is just a cuck for exact sciences?
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This is a really REALLY good meme
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>>8013281
Wittgenstein's a fascist supporter?
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>>8013310
Fuck off

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Share your favorite text, anon!
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>>8013001
i'm dead and posting on 4chan from beyond the grave
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>>8013004
I came back to post this.
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I think I will return to my grave-Reddit-.
Love you, guys.

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Are there any good 'booktubers' or are they all obnoxious faggots?
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They are all obnoxious faggots.
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>>8013017
this
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You should instantly be wary of anyone who wants to be the center of attention while not having anything remarkable to justify it. Their brains are fundamentally sick. They think their baseline contributions as some fucking nobody are valuable. That means either that they think random proles are entitled to opinions (not just opinions, but opinions delivered over a 16 minute quirkmaster video), or that they think they actually transcend the prole ooze by being a random dipshit who reads Great American Classics.

Your immediate reaction to someone saying they have a Booktube channel should be "Ah! A prole. Have to remember to gas him later."

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