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So what do you think about my idea for a novel:

I want to adapt Dostoyevsky's "Notes" in a contemporary setting (student, social media etc.etc.). Pynchon is my favorite author so I'd also use a million pop-culture references so that the reddit crowd will approve of it. Sounds like a great idea, doesn't it?
I'll start tomorrow, never have written anything before besides papers for university.

Wish me luck
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>>8020686
Whats at stake though anon? What is at stake?!
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>>8020686
What is your underground man going to critique? Enlightenment philosophy is long dead. A narrator living out post-modernism could be interesting, but I imagine it'd just be infinite jest.
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>>8020706
He will not critique anything. Or, well (wow, I will use that pun in the novel), he will express his desires in the ways the /r9k/-beta wojaks do all the time.

Besides, the underground man was unreliable to an extent where his "philosophy" stopped making sense and contradicted itself every second chapter.

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Just finished it. Anybody care to talk about it? As far as the literal events of the book I think I have it mostly figured out, but obviously a lot of what you're supposed to be taking away from it is abstract.

Themes I'm interested in are The Zone, how it sort of represents freedom and chaos, the sexuality of the bomb and what point he's trying to make, the way in which many of the characters derived meaning from the war, like how Slothrop stopped getting erections when the bombs stopped falling, and how Pirate Prentice stopped being able to see others' fantasies when the war ended. Just throwing out fodder for discussion really.

Also, what to read next? I have a plan to read Confederacy of Dunces as a cool down, then Blood Meridian, White Noise, and Lolita, but after some lighter workloads I want to read War and Peace and maybe even some Joyce. How would GR compare in terms of challenge to W&P? Or to Finnegan's Wake or Ulysses?
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stop reading memes you terrible fucking pseud
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>he literally fell for the meme
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>>8020560
Well give me some recs then. Does it make more sense to read some of the most celebrated works that people constantly talk about, or just pick books at random? I'll admit I'm not super well read, but everybody has to start somewhere. I figure the classics are probably the most sensible places to start.

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Is there a solution to underground man syndrome or is there no return when you are reflexively attacking of everything and feel there is no viable path outward?
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just appreciate life, dude.
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>>8020335
isn't this just like saying 'just be happy' it's not like a switch that can be turned on and off
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>>8020343
dude just turn your brain off lol

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How useful is this as a sampler of the canon?
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It is great, and much more interesting than the american one. The lack of realism and the actual amount of fun picaresque/excellent poetic texts in pre 19th century english writing is surprising. I highly recommend it.
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>>8020264
Dis

I was required to take early Britlit and late Britlit and the only textbook was all five volumes of this. Learned about loads of authors i knew nothing about
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The edition i bought ten years ago came with a cd with recordings of some old english poetry, that was pretty cool.

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Do /lit/ ever write love poems for their gf/bf?

Are they good? How does your gf/bf react to them?

I write my gf poetry and recite them to her when i'm drunk, they are usually pretty god damn cringey and she will say so but then give me a kiss after
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>>8020116
>gf/bf
>implying
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>>8020119
>>>/r9k/
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No but my gf leaves handwritten poems in my lunchbox for work pretty often. They're usually childish ones (i.e. ones written for children) but I find them cute and they always brighten up my day.

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What are the other themes of Romeo & Juliet besides love and death?
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It's too late for you. Work on your chemistry homework instead.
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There is no human work of art that isn't about love and/or death.
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One of the most important themes of the play is that you should do your own homework.

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Have you noticed /lit/ style pretentious struggling on other boards? In other areas art is judged solely for its entertainment value, not some nebulous made up pretentious "literary" (or its equivalent for other artforms) value.
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You've obviously never been in a NGE thread newfriend.
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>>8020004

>in other areas art is judged soley for its entertainment value

What, retard?
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>>8020004
There is no "right" way to judge art, dummy; it all depends on individual tastes, so stop fucking bitching.

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Are any of you members of the elite Edgar Allen Poe society?

Also for the Poe fans here, whats your favorite work of Poe's?
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my favourite is le raven poem
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>>8019960
As someone who only read the Raven in high school, what should I start with?
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>>8020001
The Cask of Amontillado, The House of Usher, The Masque of the Red Death,, The Murders in the Rue Morgue, William Wilson and then maybe The Narrative of Gordon Pym of Nantucket. They're pretty short except for the last one.

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Murder is wrong because the earth orbits the sub.
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>>8019881
Rape is okay because the moon orbits the earth
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Is the sub a tuna footlong?
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>>8019885
dayum nigga now I want a tuna sub

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What's the name of the book from the 1950s/60s/70s about a white man that used sophisticated makeup to "become" a black man for a few months. He works and interacts as this black man for a few months and is the victim of a lot of hate crimes and discrimination. I think it's non-fiction. I feel like the name is close to "the Man Inside me"
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Fuck, I found the answer pretty fast from google. The book is "Black Like Me" by John Howard Griffin, published in 1961
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the man with the twisted lip
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i dunno but there was a movie called gentlemans agreement where gregory peck, a goy, goes undercover as a jew to experience antisemitism

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So I've almost finished reading "Looking for Alaska" by John Green.

This book actually disgusted me.

Brief synopsis:

>be a pale, gaunt, lanky, quiet beta kid who knows the last words of a bunch of famous people
>go to boarding school
>roommate is a poorfag Chad who also quotes poetry and spends his spare time learning the capitals of the world
>first night at boarding school go sit by the lake where there's an angry security guard swan
>qt from a nearby dorm room comes to talk to the beta
>talk about some le quirky shit
>she has "hundreds" of books in her tiny dorm room
>she quotes poetry at random
>learn about the "Weekend Warriors", a group of wealthy jocks who also attend the school
>first night the WWs try and drown the betafag thinking his roommate had two kids expelled
>roommate gets pissed and plans an epic prank on them in revenge
>le quirky Alaska tells betafag that her friend Lara from Eastern Europe likes him
>betafag goes on a group date to a basketball game
>basketball hits his face and he vomits on Lara
>le epic payback prank takes place
>betafag, poorchad, Lara, le quirky Alaska and an Asian guy who raps all the time go camp in a nearby barn
>Asian rapper and betafag light firecrackers to lure the dean from his home
>poorchad and Alaska "hack" the school database and send fake negative progress reports to the parents of the WWs
>Lara sneaks into the rooms of the WWs and puts blue hair dye in their hairgel and shampoo
>betafag gets bitten by the swan when escaping
>back at the barn they get drunk and have a rap battle
>Lara makes out with betafag
>soon after Lara asks betafag if she can give him a blowie joey
>she doesn't know what to do and asks if she should bite
>betafag says they should ask Alaska, who shows them using a tube of toothpaste
>they get drunk again soon after in Alaska's room
>they play truth and dare
>Alaska dares betafag to make out with her
>she goes insane and cries and crashes her car while drunk
>poorchad and betafag try and discover the "mystery" of how and why she died
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It's absolute garbage-tier stuff. It's mostly quirky humour interrupted every couple of pages by some hyperactive out-of-place "profound" passage written in a style that is obviously borrowed from DFW with the long sentences and the "not-quite-nights" and the use of several adjectives in the same sentence (e.g. "I had never felt so sad and confused and really-not-that-good and weird at the same time....").

But the idea that we are supposed to pity or identify with the protagonist is just repulsive. He mocks everyone around him for being dull, or popular, or athletic etc, often in a faux-Holden voice. Lara, his Romanian gf, barely says anything and just exists as this shy childlike girl who crushes hard on him despite barely ever talking to him. Alaska also falls for him somehow and when she dies he wonders whether she an hero'd because she liked him too much and felt bad for her bf.

Also the humour is sometimes clever or witty but sometimes it's so jarring and pathetic that it really is offputting. In the week after Alaska dies betafag and poorchad go between dry heaving in the showers and lying on the floor crying and making meatloaf-related puns and cracking "your mom"-tier jokes as if nothing had happened. It's such a formulate book populated by 2D characters who all have their own "thing" (Asian guy raps, Alaska drinks and reads, betafag quotes last words, Lara talks like zees about her being so foreign, etc). It's a bad book. Absolutely disgusting.
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>>>/sci/fiandfantasygeneral
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>>8019816
This is why kids take depression meds nowadays. Hell, after reading your synopsis I want some

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Anyone here read any Solzhenitsyn?
Anything in particular recommended by him?
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>>8019810
M E M E S
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>>8019810
Most of his work is a crock of solzhenit
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https://discord.gg/01016TZPAPULU3VTh somebody here would like to discuss Solzhenitsyn with you

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Rate/critique thread

You guys written anything new?

OC I wrote last year during a pretty lonely period of my life, I was care taking at my grandmothers who lives on a steep hill overlooking the city in practical isolation
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>>8019725

the mew of cats releases hurricane
the villages darkness mars the horizon
heat haze is eddying over dead lamps
and in the mid of day she doesn't smoke


guess reverting your poem i made it have just as much sense :^)
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>>8019725

>dusk of night

Please fuck me anon so that I can conceive your babies and then abort them for the benefit of humanity.
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damn this silly english stressings, the second line should be

the village darkness the horizon mars

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Hey /lit/, was just wondering what people thought of the sequel to "Ender's Game", "The Speaker For the Dead". I've read it recently and I gotta say I thought it was damn good. I'm thinking I might even like it more than the original. Thoughts?
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Yeah, it was way more interesting to read about human interstellar xenocolonialism than Ender's childhood.
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literally /v/ - the book
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Card wrote Sender's Game so that this book will be better able to understand. He actually had the idea for Speaker of the Dead first.

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>jew: hey Semitic pagan remember that HISTORICAL EVENT that your pagan god made happen? yeah well it was my god yahweh that made it happen so you should totally join my updated form of worship for the same god
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>>8019555
>People follow the phony sequel.
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what's your sauce for this
I'm interested
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>>8019555
that lookout giraffe is adorable, the foremost one, that one who checks the water for reefs

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