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When is the warosu archive coming back? Please don't tell me it's gone forever. Six years of content going down the drain would be shitty as fuck.
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make 4chan great again
let the archives die

I've been wanting this ever since this shit started
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>frog posters
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I thought it was back? Is it down again?

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I have 35 days to kill.
Recommend something to read.
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>>8019419
What do you have to kill and why do you need to do it within 35 days?
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>>8019424
To kill something that lives or else I will be killed. "It's a game and as the great Bierce said 'nothing matters,' thus killing is okay" as master would say. "My name is master," said master.
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>>8019424
It's a figure of speech?
I have 35 days of nothing to do and no money. Planning on reading my way through it.

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does anybody have a simaler guide for the romans after one is finished wit the greeks?
I plan on starting with a general history of the republic, then one of the empire, then the aenid, and from there, I need your help.
Ive read meditations and encheridion, but I plan on re reading them in the correct order of other roman literature.
Thanks guys. Yove started me on a great journey here with the greeks, just did the guide and some Descartes, after rome I plan on reading medieval theology, then enlightenment literature, then nihilistic literature, then economic theory, then postmodernism.
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if only there were sticky or something, huh?
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>>8019362
I never actually looked at it.
Couldn't thank you enough
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>>8019258
I definitely think an intro Greek mythology book is a nice place to start with the Greeks. Mythology is what brought me to the sacred Greeks in the first place. It looks like a solid list.

I read an interview in relation to the premiere of the sixth season of the show where some literature graybeard was talking about how the books were great fun, if not exemplars of high literature.

Now, there is an age-old debate underscoring this issue among literature students around the world. Why do adherents of literature as art scoff at the average bestseller? Now, I'm no liberal revolutionary when it comes to this subject. There are many excellent reasons for drawing lines of differentiation between the likes of Joyce and the RL James (Or whatever the 50 shades writer's name is).

However, getting to ASOIAF:
I've read all of the books twice, and still there are details that go completely over my head (I'm a literature student myself, whatever credibility that fact in and of itself might lend me). The prose is admittedly not the series's strong point, but isn't prose ultimately the mere trappings of a story?
The scope of the narrative and the amount of details that have been smushed into the work is often staggering.

Being an aspiring writer myself, (I am a far, far better critic than a writer, no delusions of grandeur here) I would consider it nearly as daunting to try and emulate Martin's asoiaf as I would Joyce's Ulysses. For wildly different reasons, of course, but still. Although Martin's prose is almost laughably riddled with cliche he has a fine eye for pacing and story structure.

Well, I'm short on time so I won't be able to flesh out my argument any more. If the subject turns out to be interesting I'm sure many of you will be able to offset that with reflections of your own.

I'll be interested to know what you think.
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>>8019219
Scoffing at bestsellers is legit because quantity of books sold does not reflect on the quality of the writing or its contribution to humanity or any qualities of art outside of entertainment or self gratification. The second thing is, and this is something fantasy nerds obsess about, is that the quantity and detail of a story don't reflect anything but gratuitous quantity and detail. The idea of "world building" that aspiring fantasy writers fawn over is a non-factor in what traditionally makes good literature. World building is exactly what the tired axiom of "show don't tell" is telling writers to avoid. Gratuitous details and character descriptions, and descriptions of politics which may or may not be analogous to our own in the real world. It's all so trite.

Good literature doesn't draw the reader in to be entertained, it draws the reader into be challenged. To challenge their worldviews, to challenge their ideas, to give voice to the dilemmas the reader faces everyday, to maybe make sense of world that can be confusing at times.

GoT on the other hand, works as well as a TV show as it does as a book. It tells a story to entertain viewers without them having to invest anything emotionally beyond their likes and dislikes for the characters.
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>>8019262

>Good literature doesn't draw the reader in to be entertained

Except with the exception of one or two examples like Finnegans Wake, the entire history of good literature drew people in to be entertained.
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>>8019276
>Finnegans Wake
>good literature

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Hi, /lit/. I'm planning on reading IJ next month and I've been told by people here that if I wanted to read DFW's essays (which I do), I should read them before IJ. So, my question is: Which one should I read first? Supposedly Fun Thing or the Lobsters?
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>>8019182
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>>8019186
Thanks.
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>>8019191

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I'm hoping someone can help me remember the name of this book I read some years ago.

The most memorable things are:
>Set in a magic school
>MC is talented
>One kid suddenly gits gud at school and keeps antagonising MC
>MC and him end up fighting
>MC however is a sociopathic, murderous fuck who was planning on killing him anyway and set up a trap months in advance
>Turns out the other kid was able to time travel (either 24 hours or death I think?) and thus used it to get good at school; hated MC because he was naturally talented
>So now he's stuck in a endless time loop of getting trapped in his room and burning to death meanwhile MC goes on to have a successful life

Some of that might be made up, this was like 5 years ago. There were sequels coming that I never read because they weren't out yet and that is why I want to rediscover this series again. There was a lot of promising political background that wasn't expanded on and I'm sure it was coming soon in the next book.

Please help. Pic unrelated.
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>>8019136
Your picture looks infinitely more enjoyable than whatever the fuck that book is.
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>>8019154
Shogun 2: fall of the samurai.

It was pretty beast calling in naval artillery bombardments from a ship parked off the coast into your land battle.
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You're thinking of infinite jest

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Do you have any strange reading habits/rules?

For example, I only read authors whose names rhyme with "millionaire."
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>>8019131
Your thread is uninteresting.
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>>8019131
I only read jew authors
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Maybe not strange but I only read paperbacks, I even have a paperback with 2300 pages. I don't like the feel of hardcovers.

I don't read translations, so I'm learning Ancient Greek, Latin, Spanish, and Italian (might learn Russian too).

I don't use bookmarks. I don't like it when something is inside my book.

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What are your most enjoyable experiences with literary novels? I've been in a funk lately, looking to switch up my reading

Pic related was actually a really fun read (so many great sentences and instances of wordplay)
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>wordplay
Fuck off peasant
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>>8019097
but he is right?
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Read Nabokov

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Just started reading this, and it's really fascinating. I know I'm late on the ball on this but I'd heard it was going to be a tv show soon and I wanted to get the jump on it beforehand

>whore swallows a man with her vagina
You have my attention.

Also this is the first time I've read anything by Neil Gaiman, which from what I understand is an absolute tragedy.
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>>8019024
Not on this board, people tend to reserve his work to Reddit.
I actually did enjoy this book too, though.
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People shit on gaiman here a lot, not entirely undeservedly, but I'll always like this book for name dropping Gravitys rainbow, causing me to go buy it while under the impression that it was a science fiction book of some sort.

His sandman comics are better than any books he's written. Stardust is the only book he's written that I really liked.
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He's a good writer that /lit/ doesn't like because he's fairly accessible.

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sup /lit/

here's a list of books i will never read
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Ur so kool!
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>>8018937
>being this triggered someone doesn't like his favorite meme novel
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Here's a list of fucks I give:

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Post books that didn't live up to the amount of praise they got.

Pic related is literally just "I'm fucked lmao here's 400 pages cluttered with sciencey exposition for you"
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>>8018928
This is one of those books where everyone had the idea for the same fucking plot but in the end it was one guy who went ahead and put pen to paper.

My version had the astronaut staying on Mars because he thought it would be better if the mission failed because he didn't want humanity to spread its warlike nature to the rest of the universe.

Also he found out his wife was cheating on him and he told mission control to bring her into the office to talk so he could denounce her infront of the whole team lol.
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>>8018928
It made a breddy gud movie, and most reddit/sci-fi/fantasy readers read books like they're movie scripts anyway.
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>>8018948
Yeah I agree, and the book wasn't that bad either, it could just use a bit less exposition.

What are some books similar to Adventure Time? I really love this show and I really want to know if there's anything written similar to it.
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>>8018924
This is bait, but still:

Salman Rushdie "Satanic Verses", and the oft memed about Gravity's Rainbow, sort of.
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>>8018926
This is not bait. I wanted to get into reading again but I don't know how to start. So I posted a TV show I really liked, or I'm looking up movies I really like and similar to books and I find nothing.
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>>8018936
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, then.

If you are looking for something that is both infantile, dreamlike, and somewhat grounded in reality, magical realism movement may appeal to you. This genre usually focuses on spiritual in mundane, and the conflict between the two, although not as extreme as in AT. I've watched only a bit so i can't be sure.

This is generally a bad place to start reading, though.

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the movie did exactly what the movie was supposed to do to me but im wondering how does the book compare? is it just as depressing or do the visuals and acting enhance it?
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>>8018782

Selby is worth a read, in general, but I would go with The Room.
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>>8019633
Jesus anon, throw in a trigger warning before you bring up The Room.

God help us if there's ever a film adaptation.
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>>8018782
I'll be reading Last Exit to Brooklyn soon. Heard it was great.

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who is that indian slam poet i forget her name
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Free Waterfall Junior
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>>8018762
I smell like curry, you smell like plastic.
My skin may be the color of dirt but at least it has color.
Whitey, you aren't a man, you're a mannequin:
Collecting dust in safe enviroments.
I've seen streets and subtle beauties hiding
From sights of those blinded by
HD monitors radiating fake emotions and captured lightnings.

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I've almost finished this book, and I quite like it.
What are other books that talk about philosophical ideas in the form of a novel/story?
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The stranger by Albert Camus
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Permutation City by Greg Egan
1984 by George Orwell
A brave new World by aldous Huxley
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hitch hikers guide to the galaxy for sure

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