Is a lot of the elitism and butthurt on this board frustration due to the fact that we no longer live in olden times where obsessing over books or religious works was the only way to convey intelligence? These days we have maths, physics, chemistry, biology, computer science, and to a lesser extent economics, psychology, entrepreneurship, and to a much lesser extent sociology and anthropology.
And the reading of books has been elevated in to an intellectual and religious act due to absurd literary "theory" (and cultural dogma) that treats every single work of fiction as a potential source of incredible wisdom / philosophical insights / penetrating knowledge about humanity. But definitely not just a source of entertainment, no way (well that's what the academia-publishing-media industrial complex tells me).
*tips fedora*
t'would be a good thing to see if people realised video games can be art too
Do you know what the word 'art' means?
Is it wrong to say that through enjoying pieces of creative fiction/non-fiction we then gain wisdom and philosophical insight?
I feel like we just try too hard to dissect and analyze something rather than just reading it.
Just got out of college British Literature class. Am American so obviously my opinion here is a little biased, but:
I felt the Romantic era was equivalent to the extreme leftist movement we have today. Lots of abundant emotion in writing but very little logic.
Victorian era definitely not my favorite, but I feel that's because I failed to really see the literature from the writers' perspectives (won't say this for Romantic era, I felt like even taking into consideration the historical environment it's still a lot of BS)
The Modern era I can relate to the most because that's the era I know best, like TS Eliot and Wilfred Owen.
I really liked Keats tho
Modern feminists should also take some points from Virginia Woolf and Jane Austin.
General Brit Lit discussion thread also
just got done fappin it to pornos
>>8024537
I think you should call into question your interpretations of literature based on modern internet gender wars, and perhaps take an introspective look at yourself regarding WHY your first critiques run along these lines.
Perhaps you need to get offline, or stop paying attention to the vapid third-wave post-structuralist girls who you will never see again once you leave university (hint, they dont pull that shit in the working world)
>>8024537
>I felt the Romantic era was equivalent to the extreme leftist movement we have today. Lots of abundant emotion in writing but very little logic.
There is so much wrong in this statement I don't even know where to begin...
Anyone here ever read Gerty Stein? I'm thinking of getting into her work, but I don't where to start.
I've heard her output can be divided pretty cleanly into beginning-middle-late periods, and that her difficulty increases as she became more esoteric and avant garde.
I want to read to too but I can never not think of Hemingway's anecdote about her.
>>8024467
her too**
>>8024467
What anecdote?
So the begins the novel.
Does it feature elves?
>>8024439
Where do I subscribe?
>>8024460
Email me directly
[email protected]
Hey,
I've been told, that you /lit/ might help me with this particular problem, I currently have and that is this thing with the articles ''an, a, the'' in the English Grammar. We can skip the basics, like use an, a when you are talking about a thing in general, NOT a specific thing. Use THE when talking about something which is already known to the listener or which has been previously mentioned etc. I know this shite. There is one specific situation, where I'm completely lost and it's fucking bugging me and I hate it.
And that is the usage of the articles with the preposition ''of''.
For example;
Painted in the livery of the Czechoslovak 312 Squadron.
Painted in a livery of the Czechoslovak 312 Squadron
Even its current location, a small area of grass called Klarov, may not prove to be permanent.
Even its current location, the small area of grass called Klarov, may not prove to be permanent.
The Winged Lion statue, a gift of the British community,
The Winged Lion statue, the gift of the British community,
I'm not able to logically justify when to use the articles ''an, a, the'' with the usage of the preposition ''of''. I'm fucking lost. It would be great, if anyone could provide a logical explanation to me, when to use ''an, a, the'' with the preposition ''of'' in a sentence.
Also, I'm sort of a new fag, so if this a wrong board for that kind of a question, sorry. Otherwise, thank you a lot.
>>8024412
>the livery
There's only one livery, so it takes the definitive.
>the small area
Again, it is a specific patch of grass, there is not another small area of grass so called, so definitive.
>a gift of the British
The British have given many different gifts other than this one, so it takes the indefinite article.
If the Winged Lion was the only gift the British community, it would take the definite article, such as if it were in a list of gifts from different communities to whomever received the Winged Lion.
>>8024454
So for example, if was going to say ''.. a picture of the girl running on the field...''
Should I use the indefinite article ''a'' girl, because this is the first time I mentioned her and we (listeners) have no idea who she might be. We don't know anything about her.
Or, should I use the definitive article ''the'' girl, because even though she is unknown to us and being mentioned for the first time, I said that she is running on the field, so certain connections between her and the field has been established and she is ''that girl running on the field''?
fuck articles. i never use them
Art journals, especially those of a young writer such as myself who began a journal simply to better understand his own concious experience and reflect on the connections I had with others around me and how they unvaoidable influence certain aspects of my existence, or to put it better, my day to day life, are simply a collection of impulsive and generally uninterpretable by general standards.. collections of unmodifiable works. (inerms of my own journal, I started writing as soon as I began delving into narcotic opiates, benzos, stiumulantes and Heavy, heavy drinking) Anecdotes, scrawls, odd, and disturbted images, excerts from magazines no matter how irellevent and of course bearly translatable enterys written so intoxicated it is as if another aspect of my personallity wrote them, they seldom turn up often but when they do they stand out, as if a warning my subconcious.
To get to the point, I am planning to not re-write but re-format my 2 journals of very disturbing and odd writings, some which I believe to be extremely philosophical as I am an avid reader and user of mild altering substances.
This journal will be completed by tomorrow mid day the latest, the scrawlings will be scanned and also added to a compiled PDF file. I imagine it would be 200-250 pages long in total.
I have had some amphetamine tonight, and I have a 6 pack of coopers red ale. If you guys are interested I am happy to complete this work and share it with you, due to the copy-right issues involved in this etc, I will share certain parts to begin with and if there are any people generally interested in further reading, publishers, people who I believe this is worth the view of... Some small and easy contractual agreemant can be put together by my agent (whom is my room mate)
Bump with your Email address and I will forward you this post. And an outline of my next 12 hour writing session, I might even live stream? Possibly.
Thanks /lit/ and let me know
The fuck led you to believe any of us would want to read your drug-addled ramblings?
>>8024364
Its much more than that. Ive turned it into a jungiun work of art. but if you are not interested that is fine.
[Refer to this]
1/1/15
How interesting death is. An eternal nothingness.
Void of smell, sight and sound.
No personality, no voice, no reason.
Yet is it much less stranger being alive?
Aware of where we all must go and so helpless to change it.
What meaning does life truly have if all our ethical and unethaical memories
evolve into nothing but how we are remembered.
person, good or bad, who cares?
Its only those who are left alive,
to suffer in agony of impending doom,
who are we to worry? [re-read this] – does not apply
despite this current lack of meaningless in life – out of place, I had 2/10ths gram of mescaline.
if a life was cut short,
A life that seldom had time to prove itself,
repent, for there sins or sacrafices,
but of course, the beauty is,
im a minds last moments, the concious memorys he holds
are simply the content of his own head,
death is liberation from darkness.
This was the moring after NYE. The alcohol had twisted my mind, as did the Valium. Mescalien tea was also had far down in the beach (my first pscyhedelic experience) - This enetery is barley understandable, the writings of an internal confliction, this will take me a while to tear apart. It is nonsense but not wrong, which is why I did not destroy the work.
will need further explination when I have time to analyze and break down the meaning of what I ment
Example of structure.
I have just started and am editing as I go along given my time frame.
What do you think about Khaled Hosseini?
woman primary school teacher tier
liked his descriptions of Afghanistan before conflict. Not too sure about his themes or plot or whatever but there's certainly worse stuff for teenagers to read
>>8024226
DUDE
BUTTRAPE
LMAO
What's the purpose of audiobooks?
To read without having to read.
>>8024165
Some stories work really well spoken aloud with sounds and such to create an atmosphere. For example I think that the BBC's radio production of The Lord of the Rings is great stuff, Tolkien's work, being inspired by old mythology and legends, feels pretty natural spoken aloud, and the production values and performances are really high-tier stuff. It's a great way to experience the story that feels very natural to the source material.
Of course in other cases there's always >>8024179 too. Some people want to get Harry Potter into their heads without having to look at paper.
to acquire culture with no effort
>>8024111
It is at night, especially when the moon is gibbous and waning, that I see the thing. I've tried morphine but the drug has given only transient surcease and has drawn me into it's clutches as a hopeless slave. So now I am to end it all having written a full account for the information or contemptuous amusement of my fellow men.
I cannot think of the deep sea without shuddering at the nameless things that may at this very moment be crawling and floundering on it's slimy bed, worshiping their ancient stone idols and carving their own detestable likenesses on submarine obelisks of water-soaked granite.
I dream of theday when they may rise above the billows and drag down in their reeking talons the remnants of puny, war-exhausted mankind; of the day when the land shall sink and the dark ocean floor shall ascend amidst universal pandemonium.
The end is near.
I wrote this from memory. It's a passage from DAGON by HP Lovecraft. It sums up his whole mythos so well.
Stately, fatass Buck Mulligan came waddlin' on the stairs, big ass bowl in his hans wit shavin shit in it. A pussy ass bathrobe or sum shit was fluttrin round by the windo. Fattie picked up the bowl:
-- Blah blah some pig latin gay shit.
Then the fatass lookin down da stairs, yells again:
-- Come up bitch! Come up you pussy ass faggot!
Lardass walked to a railin. Be dancin aroun in a circle like jesus. He spies the nigga Deadlis and throws up some gang signs. Deadlis ty'yad as fuck an looks up at the fatass thinkin why da fuk dis horse-faced bitch be screamin bout jesus 8 in the morn'? It aint even ihop day
>>8024111
who is this woman and why do I want to fuck her
bamp
>Methinks the Lady doth protest too much
It was a dark and stormy night
And thence they make a stuff they call Rolands' Macassar Oil
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Hey /lit/,
For some reason I'm drawn to books that seem "unacceptable" to be read/owned
I've currently set my sights on "Rage" by Stephen King, but I haven't been able to find a pdf online and it's sorta expensive to buy physically. Does anyone have a pdf of it? Is it even worth reading?
Also, the general point of this thread is to recommend controversial or banned books that you found worthwhile. At least in my experience it's been tough to sort out what is actually a worthwhile read vs. what is merely hyped up because it is banned. For example, I found The Anarchist's Cookbook to be entirely worthless and only hype.
Similarly, would you recommend The Satanic Verses to be read solo? I had a friend take a class that had her read it, and she said it might not be as enjoyable without other people to critically discuss it with.
>>8024031
>Controversial Books
I wouldn't bother. It's always for stupid reasons too.
>>8024033
This just for Rage or for books that tend to be controversial in general?
>>8024041
If you need an example of "controversial" books.
Catcher in the rye is considered "controversial". Controversial just implies it made a group of wealthy 60 year old white men in suits mad or confused.
which philosopher should i read if i want to acquire gf?
Spinoza in Pt 4 of the Ethics
>>8023858
nice meme haha
Where do you find your ebooks /lit/?
On my ebookshelf
lib gen rus ec
>>8023811
Same. Libgen is god-tier.
also bookzz org
Find A Flaw
>>8023719
Not enough hand-rubbing.
>>8023719
a kike was cheated and wronged while it's kikes are supposed to cheat and wrong
the kike was a fool who forget that the force draws its own laws and bids the existing ones to its favour
also portia is extremely unlikeable
not being able to find theorson welles version is a flaw desu
ITT: /lit/ tv shows
/lit/ isn't an identity
>>8023699
How?
GILMORE
GIRLS