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I want to learn more about Psychiatry/Psychoanalysis.
Should I directly start with books from Freud, Jung or Lacan, or is there any general book I should look into beforehand?
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>>8187651
>Psychiatry/Psychoanalysis
two different things
do you want to learn about either, both, or freud, or jung, or lacan?
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>>8187651
Why don't you just learn phrenology whilst you're at it?
Astrology?
Reiki?
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>>8187651
I would definitely start with Freud. If you pick up The Freud Reader, ed. Peter Gay (Norton), you'll find a really fabulous introduction to psychoanalysis, theory, history, and practice, from the horse's mouth, as it were. Gay's commentary isn't invasive, but provides very smart and contextual introductions to each of the texts.
I wouldn't touch Jung until you have a firm grasp on most if not all of the concepts Freud touches on in the Three Essays, included in the Reader. Jung drastically revises psychoanalysis, turning it basically into myth criticism—of which, by the way, much smarter forms can be found in American literary theory from the 50s, 60s, and 70s, if that happens to be your thing.
As for Lacan, his calculus has been introduced countless times by countless scholars, but the best of them in my opinion is that of Fred Jameson, who provides a powerful reading of the three registers in an article in Yale French Review. I can track it down for you if you like. Bear in mind, however, that like Jung, Lacan is also a revisionist; so don't expect his Four Fundamental Concepts of Psychoanalysis, for example, to be an introductory text by any means.
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>We have every reason to suppose that Nietzsche had a profound knowledge of the Hegelian movement, from Hegel to Stirner himself. The philosophical learning of an author is not assessed by the number of quotations, nor by the always fanciful and conjectural check lists of libraries, but by the apologetic or polemical directions of his work itself. We will misunderstand the whole of Nietzsche's work if we do not see 'against whom' its principal concepts are directed. Hegelian themes are present in this work as the enemy against which it fights. Nietzsche never stops attacking the theological and Christian character of German philosophy (the 'Tubingen seminary') — the powerlessness of this philosophy to extricate itself from the nihilistic perspective (Hegel's negative nihilism, Feuerbach's reactive nihilism, Stirner's extreme nihilism) — the incapacity of this philosophy to end in anything but the ego, man or phantasms of the human (the Nietzschean overman against the dialectic) — the mystifying character of so-called dialectical transformations (transvaluation against reappropriation and abstract permutations). It is clear that Stirner plays the revelatory role in all this. It is he who pushes the dialectic to its final consequences, showing what its motor and end results are. But precisely because Stirner still sees things like a dialectician, because he does not extricate himself from the categories of property, alienation and its suppression, he throws himself into the nothingness which he hollows out beneath the steps of the dialectic. He makes use of the question 'which one?' but only in order to dissolve the dialectic in the nothingness of the ego. He is incapable of posing this question in anything but the human perspective, under any conditions but those of nihilism. He cannot let this question develop for itself or pose it in another element which would give it an affirmative response. He lacks a method, a typological method which would correspond to the question. Nietzsche's positive task is twofold: the Overman and Transvaluation. Not 'who is man?' but 'who overcomes man?' 'The most cautious peoples ask today: "How may man still be preserved?" Zarathustra, however, asks as the sole and first one to do so: "How shall man be overcome?" The overman lies close to my heart, he is my paramount and sole concern — and not man: not the nearest, not the poorest, not the most suffering, not the best' (Z IV 'Of the Higher Man', 3, p. 297) — the allusion to Stirner is obvious.
Alright /lit/, can we cut the Stirner is better than Nietzsche shit now?
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>>8187625
>We have every reason to suppose that Nietzsche had a profound knowledge of the Hegelian movement, from Hegel to Stirner himself.
[Citation Needed]
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>>8187660
He did read Hegel & liked it tho. It's Kant he didn't like.
OP, tl;dr
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>>8187687
>/lit/
>tl;dr
This is why people on lit say so much stupid shit about philosophy
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questions that don't deserve their own thread
has anyone read this?
the english dept. at my university is giving copies out for free and I'm thinking about grabbing one tomorrow
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it's pretty good
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>>8187089
Eh. Some okay jokes. Some TV drama style sentiment. Goes down quick and easy
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>>8187089
>woman author
no idea, still boycotting women writers.
It's over two years now. I keep waiting to miss them, but it hasn't happened yet.
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What does /lit/ think about Jung and his influence on literature? Pic related, I'm currently reading this
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>>8186642
Star Wars is good
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>>8186668
Are you referring to Joesph Campbell's influence in start wars?
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Are any of Jung's ideas even still accepted in modern psychology?
Can anyone help me with the riddle of the shepherd? Not meming, genuinely stuck on its meaning.
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Its a meme, first occurence was in Gospels, than some guy at the times of Jesus said "tee hee hee what i am referencing now;)))" and now you have Jesus as shepherd meme fresh from meme oven
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>>8186649
No, that ain't it....
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>>8186636
What is the riddle?
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The "state of nature" that Hobbes and Locke discuss seems like nothing more than speculation. Aren't evolutionary and cultural anthropology much more effective at describing this base humanity?
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>base humanity
>effective
>describing
Cease to persuade.
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>>8186577
That image doesn't make any sense.
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>>8186577
These notions didn't really exist when Locke and Hobbes were writing. State-of-nature is now an outdated notion in political philosophy, but it's important for students of political philosophy to be able to trace the development so they know what newer writers and thinkers are responding to.
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Hey /lit/, what can you guys tell me about the genre "slipstream"? I know that it has surrealism elements and that it crosses genres like fantasy and scifi but that's about it. What else is there to know about it? Also I would love some book recommendations.
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I have never heart of this genre but it sounds interesting. Are you sure you're not just thinking of the Mark Hamill movie?
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>>8186685
Yes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slipstream_(genre)
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>>8186687
Yeah the wiki is no help as usual
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goodreads threads. post your goodreads and others rate and discuss your books.
goodreads.com/katielovesclassicbooks
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Not this katie shit again
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I will if you post yours first.
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>>8186269
who cares about that kid?
Rikke has better taste
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Did Nietzche write about his illness in any of his texts?
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ask Stirner
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>>8186184
This must be homework or you'd know
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Ecce Homo
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lmao did wyatt just eat his dad?
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>>8186177
Yes. Everyone else who ate that bread ate him too.
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>>8186187
loooooooooooooool
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signed copy of John barth's sot weed factor for $60. is that worth it?
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>>8185832
Depends if you like John Barth.
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>>8185841
I do. but I mean, are they overcharging? I've never got a signed book before.
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>>8185864
Nah, I wouldn't say so. Buy it and keep it a while after the egghead croaks: by then, it'll probably be worth a good amount of money.
Have you read William Gass? What did you think?
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yeah I read the tunnel. just finished it last week. I thought it was good. man knows how to write words. prose was beautiful. the story wasn't the greatest. but I liked it overall. I need in the heart of the heart of the country
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>>8185815
Yes, and he is my favorite author. I'd definitely recommend him to anyone interested in experimental fiction and not terribly concerned with plot.
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>>8185871
>he is my favorite author
found gassposter
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Social Commentary/allusions to real life
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Post ITT books which gave commentary on current social affairs, past or present, or are made to mirror or allude to disastrous events which happened in real life.
I'll start.
>warns about totalitarian governments during a time when western intellectuals were considering communism as a viable alternative to democracy
>details how people can be mentally broken into submission practically becoming puppets
>oceania is obviously a parallel of real life great britain under totalitarian rule
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>>8184434
Please stop posting about 1984. It doesn't need an entire thread devoted to it, let alone 3.
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>>8184434
>communism
>not democracy
this is an ancom board
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>>8184434
ill name 3
>Lord of the Flies
>Animal Farm
>Brave New World
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>want to read more, spending less time shitposting and YouTubing
>get bored after either reading for a half-hour or even after a few pages and feel like I'm forcing myself to continue which means
>go back to shitposting and YouTubing
>feel guilty for not reading more
This shit happens even with fascinating books. I want to keep reading but I just can't keep an attention span on it for very long, even when I shut off my computer and phone.
Am I just not cut out for books or am I just too addicted to electronics? I don't even fucking enjoy shitposting and YouTubing anymore and want to get away from them but apparently can't. I could be doing so much else with my life.
Can anything be done about this? How does one want to read more? Or is it a case of "if you don't want to, you don't want to, ain't nothing can be done about it"?
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>>8184247
The print medium is likely acting as a hindrance to your reading. You aren't used to two things:
1.) Focusing on only one thing for extended periods of time.
2.) Reading in a format that is not the width of a phone or monitor.
Try easing your way into it. Start reading short stories on you phone.
Thankfully, publishers and literary journals have begun to embrace the digital medium. If you find yourself growing restless at even this, or if you simply want to switch things up, listen to recordings of short story writers reading their work.
The New Yorker posts a new story online each week, and they supplement it with a recording of the author reading their work. On the days you don't want to read or don't have the time, download the mp3.
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>>8184247
quick someone post the avid reader
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ADD.
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What's the best literary journal online and in print in your country? It's subjective, of course, but take a stand. I'll go first.
>Country: Canada
>Print: Grain
>Online: The Puritan
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/lit/ has no love for the journals, apparently.
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>>8184420
Just going to venture a guess, but a lot of /lit/ spends time reading novels and maybe, just maybe some poetry, history, etc. I wish I had time to read literary journals.
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The one that my university publishes, since it's the first therefore oldest university in the country.