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Are Buddhist ethics and Buddhist liberation two things that can be approached isolated or are they necessarily intertwined?
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>>8197057
>8197057
Yes, they can.
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>>8197060
So one can be a murderous cunt acting only in one's self-interest and be enlightened?
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>>8197096
Sort of.
At least what most people refer to when they talk about enlightenment (the phenomenon that can occur during meditation) can happen regardless.
Case in point:
Shoko Asahara
If we are talking "true enlightenment", then no. And the other one probably comes easier when you aren't a cunt.
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What the fuck does dialectical mean?
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>>8196903
It originates from the word dialectic, as in Hegelian dialectic.
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>>8196903
It's arguing to reach a conclusion.
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>>8196903
It's an obsolete form of diabetes.
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Anyone read it?
I'm not even done but it's definitely going to be one of my favorite books of all time. I haven't laughed out loud so many times while reading since I first read Confederacy of Dunces, probably.
It is a hard book to describe though. The "plot" progresses in a spiral fashion; or maybe concentric circles is a better metaphor. A character will be interrupted mid-sentence by a digression on the character's personality, history, thoughts, etc. Or by a theological dispute, or a philosophical argument, or a fine grammatical point, all tenuously connected with whatever has been interrupted, or with what follows the interruption; or a Dedication, offered by the author for sale to anyone who wants it, with the promise it will be put in its proper place, with the purchaser's name, on the next edition, etc. etc.
It starts not with the hero's birth but with the unfortunate circumstances of his conception, and it is well into the 3rd volume of 9 before you see him born.
Stylistically it's written in what I call in my head (but not outloud because it sounds faggy and is probably inaccurate) the "breathless style" - like Burton, heaps of clauses, long and broken sentences.
It's the sort of book that doesn't just make you laugh. It actually produces joy.
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I intend to read it here in the coming months. Schopenhauer thought it was one of the four greatest novels written, which is quite a weighty recommendation to me.
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I have it sitting unread on my shelf because I'm admittedly intimidated by the length.
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>>8196861
Yeah man you can find respectable critics/authors who can't stand it, too, though.
The most similar work I can think of is actually Petronius' Satyricon, because of the extremely digressive style, the way he both parodies and exults in these extravagant flourishes of pedantry, mixed seemingly indiscriminately with raunchy bathos and physical humor. When I reread a series of chapters, though, I see how there is a higher structure in the author's mind, and the digressive and narrative sections fit together as well as Russian dolls.
I do wish I had an edition with better notes. I forget what I have (not at home now) but it will have a gloss on something you could've googled if you didn't know it, like the name Varro, but very few explanations of the darker points that aren't anchored in some proper name.
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Can /lit/ recommend me some books on WWI and WWII? I'm talking history here and just the basics genow. An overview on dates and major battles.that kinda stuff thx
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>>8196759
The guns of August is a great book about the start of WWI. It's about the lead up to the war and the first month of the war. Reads almost like a novel and keeps your interest.
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>>8196759
Guns of August, Evans' Third Reich Trilogy, Churchill's Memoirs, Stalin: In the Court of the Red Tsar, and Churchills WW1 Book where he says I WASNT WRONG ABOUT GALLIPOLI 15 times
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>>8196772
Also Storm of Steel, Grossman's On Killing, and Keegan's Face of Battle pair nicely.
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I am looking to follow-up my collection of classical works of ancient greek literature - Philosophy, prose, poetry and everything in between is welcome - Currently it consists of:
Iliad
Odyssey
All known greek tragedies and comedies from Aeschylus, Sophocles, Euripides and Aristophanes
Apollonius' Argonautica
The Homeric Hymns
Hesiod's Works and days & Theogony
Plato's collected works
Aristotles collected
Collected works of Sappho
Herodotus' History
Are there any recommendations? Any works that I have missed? I'd be glad to fill my library and expand my collection, so please give me your best tips.
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Xenophon
Thucydides
Plutarch if you count him
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>>8196594
>reading ancient greek literature in english
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The Presocratics
Hippocrates' Corpus
Archimedes' works
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ITT we write a simple sentence and make it into something Lovecraft would write.
"Ah shit, I stubbed my toe."
"The persons involved in such an incident where ones first toe meets an unrequited invitation to the wall corner shouted, profanity spewing from their lips."
also general Lovecraft thread. Favorite Lovecraft story?
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Probably mountain of madness but I need to read more. People keep giving me collected works and I haven't had the time to read them
Pages towered above me, stretching on infinitely on all sides. Their words unread beckoning with an ancient tongue I could not know. The towers of eldritch knowledge collapsed in and trapped me, keeping me from escaping their evil, while many hands added to the pile. I'd become obsessed with learning these elder secrets, but couldn't continue on, and a profound fear enveloped me.
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>>8196590
"Aw, hell nah! What the fuck even IS that?!"
"By god, dear Richard! It was a kind of eldritch horror, wholly beyond our human understanding. It was truely an unnamable beast, if one might even call it that. I will, however, attempt to give you a vague yet detailed description of the thing. Starting with a lot of slime, goo and the occasional tentacle."
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>>8196590
"I had a shitty vacation."
"I will tell you about the thing, once I can gather my senses, at least what senses remain to me after that horrid event; but first let me describe New England architecture to you in exhausting and unnecessary detail."
Im reading the Robert Fagles Illiad at the moment, but I don't have his Odyssey. I have Robert Fitzgerald's. Is it a bad idea to read Fitzgerald's Odyssey instead of Fagles after reading his Illiad or is it a non-issue?
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A non-issue!
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>>8196424
just read them things
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>>8196424
Yeah, that's fine. Fitzgerald's Odyssey is *much* better than his Iliad, it's the best English rendition IMO.
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Are there any good books that prove wrong all the bullshit he says?
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>>8196288
Nope sorry. Motherfucker was 100% right about everything.
You'll all see soon enough.
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>>8196291
Ok then.
Some book that is at least capable of making you think he was wrong even though he isn't? Please? :)
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>>8196334
Try Aristotle
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This upstanding gay fella walks up to you at the book store, smack your meme literature out of your hands and thrusts The Way Of Men into your effeminate hands; he asks you why you don't do you part as a Man adhere to Strength, Honour, Courage and Mastery.
What do you do?
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>>8196256
>smacking things out of people's hands
>honorable
I'd tell him it's a shame he wasn't in that nightclub in Orlando and that the world would be better off without him.
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>>8196256
>upstanding gay fella
Good joke, weak troll.
Kys.
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I would whip out my snub nose katana and teach him a lesson about being polite to strangers
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>tfw just finished Short History of Decay
>tfw Cioran makes a pretty decent criticism of Stirner
>tfw Cioran has made me strangely happy and has some weird optimistic nihilism going on.
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>>8195902
what's his critique of Stirner ?
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>>8195902
>taking anyone who writes in aphorisms seriously
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>>8195945
>Dispelling a large portion of philosophy because you don't like the format
>>8195931
F L O W E R
O F
F I X E D
I D E A S
once the unique one has destroyed all fixed ideas, they take all sides, hold all opinions. Obsessions MAKE US, anon. You don't want to be GELATINOUS do you? You don't want to have gotten all your education at the WHORE HOUSE, WHERE YOU ARE TAUGHT TO LOSE ALL YOUR PRINCIPLES AND VIEW YOUR VERY SELF AS A TOOL, DO YOU ANON????
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>erotica
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I'd fuck her right in her triangular mouth. Keep making those bedroom eyes, bae. Hoo!
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>You will never accept a venom cock
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>>8195816
erotica can be a fertile and rewarding artistic subject.
I'm not a native speaker and I'm not particularly capable of concentrating right now, either.
Would someone be willing to explain to me what this ( http://www.poetryfoundation.org/poetrymagazine/poems/detail/89329?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social_media&utm_campaign=general_marketing ) poem is about?
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>>8195539
Bump
I know this is a long text, but it contains stuff about memes and lines like "[pics or it didn’t happen]".
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>>8196329
A-and I would really appreciate it...
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>>8195539
It's about being trapped in your given circumstances I suppose.
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Lit, how do I just get over my own head and read? I keep holding myself to some sort of standard, I stare at a page and get frustrated sometimes because I feel like I'm not comprehending sentences fast enough. I find myself staring at a page and telling myself that I've been staring at it for too long. I feel like I should be a faster reader, and that if I'm not then it's because I simply don't have the brain capacity, which I feel is false because if I were to simply relax and not take things so seriously, I could get so much more reading done because it wouldn't matter how fast I read the book, as long as I just finish it instead of getting discouraged; reading speed doesn't matter, comprehension and retention matters which I think I am pretty good at.
I still can't get over it though. Staring at a page, I get so frustrated when there's a word that I don't know. I am always choosing literature which uses references to things which don't exist anymore in our modern society, or words that are obscure that I'd have to look up the definition of. It's things like these that also make me feel discouraged from reading. Maybe when you read higher level stuff (whatever standard that may be), you should be feeling that way to some degree? I wonder if I just have a very skewed perspective of what it means to be a "good reader". People keep telling me also that I probably just don't like reading, except I want to love reading and I want to enjoy the experience of reading a book, I can imagine all the incredible stories and information out there inside of books that could become mine, and the experience and emotions within the texts that I could feel. I want that stuff, except it's just been difficult for me lately. I just put down Knut Hamson's hunger after 3 pages.
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Relax kid, to become a proficient reader develops over years. Keep reading. Maybe have a cup of tea or coffee before you read, or take a 30 minute jog to calm your mind and relax before reading.
I look up words I don't know, it rarely happens now because I've been doing it for almost a decade, eventually your knowledge base gets big, just take it in stride, one book at a time.
This ain't a competition, you're just racing against death's clock but you'll be dead either way, breathe kiddo.
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One page at a time, brother. But read daily.
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>>8195530
>Lit, how do I just get over my own head and read?
I know it may seem impossible doing a handstand and reading, so I suggest strengthening thay neck and doing a head stand.
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What's your favourite Borgesian story/poem?
Other than these:
Library of Babel
The Circular Ruins
Tlon, Uqbar, Orbis Tertius
Personal fave is Funes the Memorious. I don't know how to judge his poetry since Spanish is all Greek to me. But it seems okay, with a few metaphors and images standing out.
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funes was great, one of my top ones too, OP
garden of forking paths was also pretty cool
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>>8195192
Theologians.
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>>8195192
The Immortal is one of my personal favorites. The moment when he finds outthe troglodyte was Homer all alongis the most /lit/erary plot twist I've ever read.
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nick land
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>>8194990
fag
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>>8194990
>muh deleuze
>muh schematism
>muh eugenics
what a knob
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Reading fanged noumenon atm, can literally feel the lib being crushed out of him as the years progress.
First essay encourages fostering of amazonian violence against patriarchy, couple more essays in we are at Schopenhauer and questioning in prols are even human.
Loving it so far