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Reading has become more than just a hobby for me. It used to be enjoyable. But now it feels like I'm taking on another task. Should I take a break from reading for a little while?
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Good. It should be enjoyable
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for sure go at your own pace.

personally I find opening up a new book and reading a few pages into it and you start to pick up interest and momentum
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>>8271902
Sure. Sometimes I get fed up with it and go deep into pleb entertainment for a while.

Variety, spice ay fucking life, ken?

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I'm so tired, how is it that everything is so tiring? Is it natural to be this exhausted? I just want to be held by something protective and supportive, some kind of guardian from the fear and temptations of lust, death, and nothingness. Does anyone else suffer from this perpetual exhaustion?

/lit/ for exhaustion
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I really don't know what to do /lit/, It's all so exhausting
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>>8271774
O-one must imagine sisyphus happy, r-r-rite guys?
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>>8272058
I can barely do it anymore, I just wish the car crash would happen sooner, how do I forget my true intentions?

So I'm in the process of writing a sort of coming of age, college buddy road trip novel with multiple POV format similar to pic related where each character gets their own chapter.

Anyone know any good books with a similar POV format? Any tips or advice are welcome as well.

>inb4 just write you'll get better
I know that you dingdongs
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>>8271766
>coming of age, college buddy road trip

Sounds derivitive already.
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>>8271768
*derivative
Also, fuck off, it's nearly impossible to be original anymore. Anything that's worth making has been made at least once before. What's interesting is different people's takes on different topics and themes. A single story can be told a million different ways, which is why literature is so incredible.

So all in all, 10/10 bait would get mildly annoyed again
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As I Lay Dying is the obvious one

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Are people who read more likely to be romantics? If so, do they read because they are romantics or does one become more romantic by reading?

Is there a worse fate than to be born a romantic? Life is just filled with endless disappointment. There's no escape of life's kitchen sink realism.
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I think you need to clear up exactly what kind of romantic you're talking about. How about adding a short definition of what a romantic is (to you).
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No doubt the artist is the child of his time; but woe to him if he is also its disciple, or even its favouite. Let some beneficent deity snatch the infant betimes from his mother's breast, let it nourish him with the milk of a better age and suffer him to grow up to full maturity beneath the distant skies of Greece. Then when he has become a man, let him return to his century as an alien figure; but not in order to gladden it by his appearance, rather, terrible like Agamemnon's son, to cleanse it.
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>>8271740
dunno. neither does anybody on this board.
go do a statistics research to see how many pretentious assholes correlate with people who read.

i personally think it's a meme.

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Just read The Martian Chronicles by Ray Bradbury.

This book mentions a lot of times the color green, if you read all the stories you'll notice it quite often...

Do you think the author does this as a literary resource or for the sake of semiotics and steganography?

On the Third Expedition the rocket lands on green land. It's funny, because there are conspiracy theories that say the NASA used Greenland (as opposed to the Red Planet) to record the Curiosity mission... Also, the town where the earth men end up is called Green Bluff.

But it could be all just coincidence... How would you explain the repeated reference of the color green?
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>>8271702
Bradbury is big on colour. He makes note of it all the time.
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>>8272214
So why in this book the big color is green?
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>>8271702
its not a coincidence, he is just a massive autist is all

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Was Moby Dick a fag?
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for you
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>1800

Melville looks cool af. Not a tryhard like Hemingway.
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>>8271678
I don't know, but OP certainly is.

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How do I stop resenting the fact that the French exist and have the best avant-garde and edgy literature, music, film, art, philosophy, cheese, ect?

It's not fair that they have it all. I hate them so much.
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this post was made by a frog also

that story gave me a boner but dont post it again
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>>8271608
I feel the same way. But I'm required to take a language for uni (I'll admit to only speaking/reading one), so I'm taking two semesters of French and I'm just gonna keep going with it from there.
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I FELL IN LOVE WITH THE FIRST CUTE GIRL THAT I MET
WHO COULD APPRECIATE GEORGE BATAILLE
STANDING AT A SWEDISH FESTIVAL
DISCUSSING STORY OF THE EYE

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With regard to the Eternal Recurrence.

If it's true, doesn't it mean every action and consequence is predetermined? And paradoxically this is meant to inspire us to change/improve our lives?

I suppose I'm kind of asking "If actions are predetermined, do we have free will?" But it seems paradoxical when Eternal Recurrence seems to refute free will, when Eternal Recurrence is connected with Will to Power
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Like, literally read the part where he brings up the eternal recurrence. It's quite clearly just a poetic idea intended to inspire you to embrace life. It's not a metaphysical assertion.

Besides, even if it was an argument for determinism the response "Well then it doesn't even matter what I choose!" is, like, comedic.
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>>8271533
I agree with >>8271566 , what you're talking about isn't Nietzsche's problem here
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>>8271533
its the turin horse, op. the turin horse.

that horse. its the turin horse.

turin horse

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http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/14/magazine/the-death-of-adulthood-in-american-culture.html?smprod=nytcore-ipad&smid=nytcore-ipad-share&_r=0

http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/books/2014/06/against_ya_adults_should_be_embarrassed_to_read_children_s_books.html

>Noting that nearly a third of Y.A. books were purchased by readers ages 30 to 44 (most of them presumably without teenage children of their own), Graham insisted that such grown-ups “should feel embarrassed about reading literature for children.” Instead, these readers were furious. The sentiment on Twitter could be summarized as “Don’t tell me what to do!” as if Graham were a bossy, uncomprehending parent warning the kids away from sugary snacks toward more nutritious, chewier stuff.

Why is children's literature so popular nowadays?
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in case it's the next big movie or TV show, the readers can brag that the book was better
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post-modernism bringing about the death of objective standards, meaning they're not looked down upon for reading shitty books; instead of being ashamed of it, they're defensive of their pleb taste ("if I enjoy it, it's good").
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>>8271567
post-post-modernism when?

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Anyone read starship troopers/the forever war? General review and discussion thread
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>>8271507

Only the movie is worth watching because things and plot actually happen in it.

The book is just bookcamp and facist rhetoric.
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>>8271511
Yeah I'd heard that. Still think it's worth a read tho. I want to get a copy of both books, they seem to have two takes on a similar subject
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>>8271507
i liked starship troopers because the battles were pretty well written i thought, but as >>8271511 said, there isn't much actual plot or character development

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>Ishiguro’s novel can be seen as an inspired secular expansion of Pascal’s tragic religious vision: “Imagine a number of men in chains, all condemned to death, some of whom are executed daily in sight of the rest; then those who are left see their own fate in that of their fellows, and regarding each other with sorrow and without hope, wait till their turn comes: this is a picture of man’s condition.
>tips eyeglasses

But seriously, I just marathoned the first chapter of The Buried Giant and I'm loving it so far. I understand it's held in middling regard but I don't see how he could top this.
Kazuo thread?
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>>8271499
Read Never Let Me Go and plan to get around to The Remains of The Day. Lovely prose and well-placed intricate details strewn about that hint at its conclusion while being subtle and smooth. Unfortunately a little dry but I'm sure others will disagree and it's still a solid work.
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please stop describing reading books as "marathoning" them
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>>8271499
Definitive Ishiguro Power Ranking:

>Canonical masterpiece tier
The Unconsoled - S

>Beloved classic tier
The Remains of the Day - A+
The Buried Giant - A+

>Delightful intro tier
Cellists - A
Crooner - B

>Flawed but touching tier
Never Let Me Go - B+
>Novel experimentation tier
A Pale View of Hills - B
>Traditionally proficient tier
Artist of the Floating World - B-

>Flawed experimentation tier
When We Were Orphans - C
Nocturne - C
Come Rain or Come Shine - C-
Malvern Hills - C-

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Allright, budding writers... Defend yourself against THIS! Cioran tells it straight - don't be a writer.

"In this amazing and unrelenting epistolary essay, the Romanian philosopher EM Cioran urges a young, aspiring author to give up his ambition to write so that he may protect his sicknesses and sins from the healing power of the word. To write is to destroy the grace bestowed upon us by misery and disease and failure. And to become a literary man is to join the age of the epigone – the copycat."

http://radio-weblogs.com/0124722/stories/2003/05/24/cioran.html
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Illness so weak as to die with a gust of breath is illness not worth protecting, and failure that can be redeemed is not real failure; as for being not yourself, what else could you be?
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Everyone else is his competition. Duh.
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The important part, when attempting to fail, is to be not too successful.

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How should I start with Nietzsche /lit/?
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GREEKS
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Let's see, how would you pronounce Nietzsche?
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>>8271332
knee-che

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>Only the cinema has the possibility of truly fighting against time, thanks to montage. This microbe which is time, the cinema can come right to the end of it. But it was more advanced on this path before the sound cinema. Most likely because man is greater than language, greater than his words. I believe more in man than in his language.

LITERATURE ETERNALLY BTFO

Will /lit/ ever recover?
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Now try communicating that concept through film.
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I'm a complete pleb, I have no idea what the fuck he's saying.

What does he mean by fighting time? Cinema coming right at the end of it?
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>>8271226
the eternal struggle

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I rarely see this guy mentioned here. What are your thoughts on him? Favorite novel?

I personally enjoy Oliver Twist the most, but I've only read Two Cities, Great Expectation, and Twist, and Christmas Carole so far. I'm considering reading Bleak House next, but I've never met anyone who has read it so I don't know if I should.
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I've posted multiple times in the past few months about going through Nicholas Nickleby extremely slowly due to boredom
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>>8271161
read whatever you want, nobody cares
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Currently going through Our Mutual Friend, it's great

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