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How do I into contemporary poetry?

I love everything from Shakespeare up to Yeats, but once I get into the 20th century, things get iffy for me. Are there some critical works that explains the transition from traditional forms to the experimental, free verse, weirdness?

If anyone can explain the ethos of modern poetry, I'd be interested.

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Anonymous 2016-07-12 12:27:36 Post No.8269559
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>>8269204
Everything post 1970 sucks balls

Anonymous 2016-07-12 12:54:26 Post No.8269623
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Anonymous 2016-07-12 12:54:26 Post No.8269623 [Report]

All modernism really did for poetry is allow more variety in form, and most modern poets have works that you can appreciate even if you don't like the more unusual and esoteric stuff. E.g. The Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock by Eliot, or The Idea of Order at Key West by Stevens. If you want critical explications, there are plenty: just search for some on Google or Amazon. They'll probably help you appreciate some of it.

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>>8269559
I haven't really read much of it, but I'm sure some of it is good. I'd imagine it's just the more popular or famous stuff you don't like.

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Anonymous 2016-07-12 08:52:26 Post No. 8269159 [Report] [View this topic]

Be honest, who here watches the show?

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Dropped it after season 2

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I'll recommend you something better: Dekalog.

Watch it then tell me GoT is good TV.

Anonymous 2016-07-12 09:00:31 Post No.8269177
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>>8269174
I don't trust that polish sounding name

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Anonymous 2016-07-12 08:40:14 Post No. 8269136 [Report] [View this topic]

What are some good non-fiction books?
Pic maybe related, I never read it.

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Anonymous 2016-07-12 09:08:58 Post No.8269199
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I was thinking of reading it. I'm not too interested in partisan polemics though, I hope it's a bit meatier.

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>>8269136
probably the antithesis of this one

Anonymous 2016-07-12 09:47:08 Post No.8269247
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>>8269222
>Zinn

This guy is (well was) a living /pol/ caricature.

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Anonymous 2016-07-12 08:37:32 Post No. 8269130 [Report] [View this topic]

>Is e=mc2 a sexed equation?...Perhaps it is. Let us make the hypothesis that it is insofar as it privileges the speed of light over other speeds that are vitally necessary to us. What seems to me to indicate the possible sexed nature of the equation is not directly its uses by nuclear weapons, rather it is having privileged what goes the fastest...
Is this the kind of thing people in Gender Studies department study? What's the essential reading to help me understand things like this?

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Anonymous 2016-07-12 08:39:44 Post No.8269134
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Cioran
>It is not worth the bother of killing yourself, since you always kill yourself too late.

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>>8269134
>It is not worth the bother of killing yourself, since you always kill yourself too late.
Is this the edgiest quote of all time?

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>>8269140
Yeah, he's a gold mine for them. A whole bunch of shit about how he hates god and life and wishes he'd never been born and moans about being a coward.

To say that is pretty reductive of his philosophy but I prefer reading him as comic.

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Anonymous 2016-07-12 08:37:07 Post No. 8269128 [Report] [View this topic]

This book sucked

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try this one

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>>8269128
>>8269131
nah do this one instead

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>>8269135
I can second this

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Anonymous 2016-07-12 08:15:36 Post No. 8269088 [Report] [View this topic]

How do I look cool reading on a Kindle?

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Anonymous 2016-07-12 08:17:28 Post No.8269094
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Anonymous 2016-07-12 08:17:28 Post No.8269094 [Report]

Shove it up your ass.

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>>8269088
Hide it behind a book.

Anonymous 2016-07-12 08:22:09 Post No.8269104
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>>8269088
be good looking

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Anonymous 2016-07-12 07:49:52 Post No. 8269044 [Report] [View this topic]

Enchiridion, chapter 32

>And then when any advice shall have been given, remember whom you have taken as advisers, and whom you will have neglected, if you do not obey them.

What did he mean by this?

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Anonymous 2016-07-12 07:51:14 Post No.8269045
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Anonymous 2016-07-12 07:51:14 Post No.8269045 [Report]

Dont listen to retards.

Anonymous 2016-07-12 07:52:36 Post No.8269046
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Anonymous 2016-07-12 07:52:36 Post No.8269046 [Report]

keep ur freinds in mined

Anonymous 2016-07-12 07:54:39 Post No.8269047
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Anonymous 2016-07-12 07:54:39 Post No.8269047 [Report]

Damn my advice was real good wtf dude why did you disobey me

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Anonymous 2016-07-12 07:27:10 Post No. 8269000 [Report] [View this topic]

Does depression effect anyone's reading progress like it does to mine?

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Anonymous 2016-07-12 07:40:24 Post No.8269023
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Anonymous 2016-07-12 07:40:24 Post No.8269023 [Report]

When I was having an anxiety episode I couldn't read at all.

All I'd want to do was mindless shit like watching TV in bed.

Anonymous 2016-07-12 07:44:06 Post No.8269034
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Anonymous 2016-07-12 07:44:06 Post No.8269034 [Report]

Yes sometimes can't get any joy out of reading and it's annoying because I don't have anything else to do but drink.

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>>8269000

Yes. When it is catatonic level bad I'll get no more than 10 pages a day done. That is it.

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Tao Lin general 2016-07-12 07:07:30 Post No.8268958
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Tao Lin general Anonymous 2016-07-12 07:07:30 Post No. 8268958 [Report] [View this topic]

who /tao/ here?

i'm almost done with his novels. are his poetry and short story collections 'worth it?'

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Anonymous 2016-07-12 07:09:35 Post No.8268965
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Anonymous 2016-07-12 07:09:35 Post No.8268965 [Report]

i like cognitive behavioral therapy and you are a little bit happier than i am

Anonymous 2016-07-12 07:14:26 Post No.8268975
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>>8268958
He's shit.
And that's the first and only thing /lit/ has ever been right about.

Anonymous 2016-07-12 07:15:46 Post No.8268978
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>>8268975
how is he shit senpai? taipei and richard yates are transcendent desu

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Anonymous 2016-07-12 06:42:08 Post No. 8268902 [Report] [View this topic]

What are the best essays or philosophical writings on atheism? Search engines aren't coming up with anything great, guess atheism isn't as popular as I thought it was.

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Anonymous 2016-07-12 06:43:30 Post No.8268905
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Anonymous 2016-07-12 06:43:30 Post No.8268905 [Report]

there are no good or notable atheist philosophers. try reading some kierkegaard instead.

Anonymous 2016-07-12 06:45:39 Post No.8268908
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>>8268902
the god delusion

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>>8268902
>>8268905
I think the problem is that "atheism" isn't actually a philosophy or belief system in itself, it's just the state of NOT believing in something. So there are plenty of good philosophers-who-were-atheists, but very few "atheist philosophers" if that makes sense.

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Bookworm Needs Anonymous 2016-07-12 06:18:11 Post No. 8268837 [Report] [View this topic]

Anyone know where I can download a free audiobook of Academ's Fury by Jim Butcher?

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Anonymous 2016-07-12 06:22:03 Post No.8268847
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>>8268837
please go to the "helpful mod" sub, where the mods help users like you
god bless!
>>>/hm/

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>>8268847
How rude. Lol.

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Anonymous 2016-07-12 06:27:13 Post No.8268863 [Report]

Can you be anymore of sinner, jeez

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Solaris Anonymous 2016-07-12 05:59:58 Post No. 8268782 [Report] [View this topic]

Is it any good? If so what version/translation should I read? Also where could I find a pdf of said version/translation?

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Anonymous 2016-07-12 06:05:05 Post No.8268797
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Anonymous 2016-07-12 06:05:05 Post No.8268797 [Report]

Libgen.
It's quite interesting, one of the best sf novels.

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>>8268782
yes/no idea/google

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>>8268782

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Anonymous 2016-07-12 05:43:36 Post No. 8268731 [Report] [View this topic]

How do I into DFW

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Anonymous 2016-07-12 05:45:15 Post No.8268735
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Anonymous 2016-07-12 05:45:15 Post No.8268735 [Report]

Read IJ

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>>8268735
I'm more or less settled that if I hadn't read IJ I would have liked DFW a lot more.

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>>8268739
I kinda agree with this, actually. I don't dislike IJ, but even The Broom of The System is a more engaging read.

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Wondering Anonymous 2016-07-12 05:12:51 Post No. 8268636 [Report] [View this topic]

Does anybody know if the works "manipulated" by Fried's sister are available?

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Anonymous 2016-07-12 05:20:21 Post No.8268651
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Anonymous 2016-07-12 05:20:21 Post No.8268651 [Report]

the will to power is a song by shopenhauer you pleb

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>>8268651
Schopenhauer*
fucking bourgeois

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>>8268636
lmao fried

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