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Weird, read that in Elliot's voice.

Weird show.

Get yourself a cup of black coffee and slowly sip it while reading your book, far away from any computers or cellphones. Force yourself to just get through 10-15 pages without stopping. When you get there you'll have "broken through" -- it's just like running. Ask any runner. The first mile is the hardest. Then the brain gives up fighting you on it, resigns itself to the task at hand, and sends endorphins shooting through the body.

Using your brain is like exercise. There's nothing *wrong* with it per se. You're just out of shape. Now do some calisthenics, force yourself to break the barrier. We believe in you OP.

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>>8270726

Hey, thanks guys. You're right, the best option is to stop whining about it and actually try and make some progress.

/lit/ seems leaps and bounds above other boards in terms of its ability to relate to people. Thanks.

>says he likes to read
>reads with footnotes that aren't from the author

>>8270661
how do you have time to read an entire book in one day every day.
i can do this from time to time, but one a day?

>>8270731
think of how many hours you are spending not reading
convert them to hours spent reading

voila.

it's almost like magic

bcuz its for smart ppl breh, just like suits n shit

>>8270602

Probably something like the tyrannical soul comes from a democratic society

Maybe you're putting more thought into it than the person who made it did.

i have been saying this for ages. I think it's vitally important for the socially impaired or high functioning autistics to be forced to read and evaluate literary fiction at a young age as a part of therapy and etc.

My theory is that the inclination to read is an evolved coping mechanism to being an autist, almost like if men with micropenises were drawn naturally to finger-banging manuals. Therefore this board.

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1877042814029243

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>>8270578
>pic related
You speak roach?

>>8270586
turkish, yes

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>>8270578
Learning Russian so I can read Dostoevsky in a comfy apartment living in Yekaterinburg

is that the malnourished jew from the big bang theory?

>>8270564
no its manny fresh

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What's this guy's IQ? Must be at least 180.

Also, what's his endgame?

>>8270494
Paradoxes of Defence by George Silver is a fun read

http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/paradoxes.html

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>>8270494
Basics/Start here:
1)Sun Tzu - The Art of War
1b)Zhuge Liang's and Liu Ji - Commentaries on the Art of War
2)Niccolo Machiavelli - The Art of War
3)Niccolo Machiavelli - The Prince
4)Jomini - The Art of War
5)Clausewitz - On War
6)Miyamoto Musashi - The Book of Five Rings

Urban/Guerilla Warfare:
7)Che - Guerrilla Warfare
8)Mao - On Guerrilla Warfare
8b)Mao - Problems of Strategy in Guerrilla War Against Japan
9)David Kilcullen - Counterinsurgency
9b)David Kilcullen - Out of the Mountains
10)IRA Green Book
10b)Patrick Pearse - Fianna Handbook
11)Tiqqun - Introduction to Civil War
12)Max Boot - Invisible Armies
13)US Army/Marine Corps Counterinsurgency Field Manual
14)Carlos Marighella - Minimanual of the Urban Guerilla

Scientific Approach/Analysis:
15)William Spaniel - Game Theory 101: The Rationality of War
15b)William Spaniel - Game Theory 101: The Complete Textbook
16)Science, Strategy and War: The Strategic Theory of John Boyd
17)Lawrence Freedman - Strategy
18)Ed. Thomas J. Cutler - The U.S. Naval Institute on Naval Strategy
19)Thesis: Military Intelligence in the New Zealand Land Wars, 1845-1864. - Clifford Roy Simons

Ancient Wars:
20)Julius Caesar - Commentaries on the Gallic War
21)Maurice - Strategikon (recommended twice)
22)Kautilya - Arthashastra (also largely economics)
23)Tucidides - The History of the Peloponnesian war (recommended thrice)
24)Xenophon - Cyropaedia
24b)Anabasis
25)Renatus - De Re Militari
26)Arrian - Campaigns of Alexander (recommended twice)
27)Asser - Life of King Alfred.
28)The Roots of Strategy series.
29)Ross Cowan - Roman Battle Tactics 109BC-313AD
30)Vita Karoli Magni

Modern Warfare (WW2 onwards):
31)Rommel - Infantry Attacks
32)Jünger - Storm of Steel
32b)Jünger - On Pain
33)Toshi Yoshihara and James R. Holmes - Red Star Over The Pacific
34)David Evans & Mark Peattie - Kaigun

N/A:
35)Jocko Willink - Extreme Ownership.
36)Seven Pillars of Wisdom - T. E. Lawerence
37)Learning to eat soup with a knife - John Nagl

I agree.

>>8270490
What is the context? I don't have the book with me.

Anyway, she seems to say she is, or would be, devoted to her living family above all else, especially those who depend on her for their survival (children), and only then would she perform her duties to the dead. She is adamant in her resolve to bury her brother only because she doesn't have anything more important than her life to lose, like a nuclear family. She also mentions the will of the people whom she wouldn't break, had she had something really worth fighting for. But let's not forget who she is: she is a broken woman, the impure issue of an abominable marriage, her father and mother are dead, her brothers too, nobody would marry her and she knows her only living sibling is better off staying away from her. Her duty to the dead is the only meaningful act left to her.

It seems like Sophocles wants to nuance her apparent fanaticism in getting the proper burial done in spite of all odds and all sense.

If you ask me if it fits with the rest, yeah, why not? Why shouldn't Antigone be nuanced? I read this some time ago but I do remember that she expresses regret at some point for not being able to live a fulfilled life and marry Kreon's son. On the other hand, she barely acknowledges his infatuation, if at all. Still, I don't think one should view these contradictions as inconsistencies or worse, inauthentic passages. I choose to see it as the inner struggle of a complex character.

I read this quite a while ago, I don't remember it all that well and I've never read any critical studies of it, not even the intro, so if you think I'm way off the mark, I might be. I wouldn't even have chimed into your thread hadn't I seen you bumping it with no replies.

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Take a look at the lines up to 1005 that are after what you greentexted, without the "etc.":

Never, I tell you.
if I had been the mother of children
or if my husband died, exposed and rotting--
I'd never have taken this ordeal upon myself,
never defied our people's will. What law,
you ask, do I satisfy with what I say?
A husband dead, there might have been another.
A child by another too, if I had lost the first.
But mother and father both lost in the halls of Death,
no brother could ever spring to light again.
For this law alone I held you first in honor.

She's especially devoted to the Underworld only insofar as she recognizes that to do her biological family honor, she must bury the dead and fulfill that divine law. If it had just been a husband or her children that were dead and out there rotting, she would not have transgressed Creon's laws, because she does not, as someone who would be in a position to acquire those things again, owe them that, but her relationship with her brother and parents is not something that can ever be replaced.

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/lit/ lists usually have good books. Ignore shit like "starter" kit. I like pic related, but none of it matters - just read good shit. Don't rely on on anonymous anime picture board to tell you what to think.

one of the GOATs

plebs can't into him cause he's "boring"

hardly ever discussed here cause people are too busy memeing murakami and mishima

read master of go senpai.

>>8270408
Master of Go is next on my list

I've read most of Murakami, Soseki, and Mishima at this point, who else am I missing?

>>8270516
A fuck load. Tanizaki, Inoue, Dazai, Akutagawa, Abe, Oe, Eiji, Endo and Hearn (not Japanese but pretty much). That's more than enough to keep you going. All of them are good, all are worth reading. Tanizaki, Inoue, Dazai write like Kawabata (Tanizaki and Inoue especially). Akutagawa wrote wonderfully imaginative and strange short stories in his early career before settling into semi-autobiographical stories later on. Abe is known as the Japanese Kafka. I don't even know how to describe Oe. He has one novella which is one huge knock against Mishima which you might like. Eiji writes big popular samurai novels. Sort of puply but puply in the way Master and Commander is, not Game of Thrones. Endo and Hearn due to their relationships with the west (Endo is a catholic and Hearn is an American) write works which help to bridge a gap between Japan and the west. Endo's writers are all about the difficulty that the Japanese have with understanding Christianity and Hearn writes for a western audience.

You can always give him Harry Potter, it's a shit, but fine for children
or some of Terry Pratchet's books

>>8270363
The Hobbit

>>8270363
Redwall series
My Side of the Mountain
Where the Red Fern Grows
Stuart Little
Charlotte's Web
Goosebumps
Harry Potter

read Dostoyevsky

>>8270339
Definitely Notes from Underground.

>>8270339
You lucky fucker. The highs are supposed to be amazing.

It's translated as "shown"
Every sub-numbering is a further comment or clarification on the preceding propositions so you should post those too

>>8270295
I'm no good at translating, but here we go:

4 Thoughts are meaningful sentences
4.1 Sentences portray ruling or non-ruling in private situations
4.12 Sentences can portray the whole truth, but not what they must have in common with reality in order to show - their logical form.
To show a logical form, we should be able to seat ourselves outside logic, a.k.a. outside the world.
4.121 Sentences cannot show a logica form - it is projected from sentences.
What is projected from language, cannot be portrayed by language.
What portrays itself in language, that we cannot portray with language.
Sentences show the truths logical form.
The sentences show it.
4.1212 What can be shown cannot be said.

>>8270329
Yep. It's the old saying/showing distinction. Very important idea in the book, and also the most controversial ...

>>8270258
Haven't read the novels you're mentionning, but from your description of them, I'd advise reading the following : The Vatican Cellars, by André Gide.

is the postman actually a good book?

>>8270258
that greentext story about the movie Drive

>>8270187
I'm pretty sure thats the part when they burn down the hotel. From what I recall Old Sidney was already on the ground and Toadvine told him to kick him in the face.

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>>8270194
My bad, I should have been more specific. This happens when when the kid and Toadvine first cross paths. The fight starts when the kid "kicks him in the face."

Only other explanation is pic related.

>>8270187
The guy he kicks in the face had already fallen to the floor since, y'know, Toadvine fucking jumped him. C'mon, OP, you can't blame your inability to read on McCarthy.