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what happened to the anon in charge of the 2016 top 100 chart? isn't it supposed to be finished today?
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>>8619457
It's a fucking farce anyway. Infinite Pest and Gravity's Rainbow in the top 3 lmao.

If ever there was a reason to laugh at this board
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>>8619469
>i am new
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>>8619469
actually Ulysses, Moby Dick, and The Brothers Karamazov are gonna be the top 3

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I celebrated the Dylan prize, because I much prefer him to some random journalist from God-knows-where. However, does his verse really compare favourably to the poems of the great canonical poets?

I proprose that in this thread we compare some of THE BEST Dylan verse to some of THE BEST poems written by poets who have been internationally praised for their poems. You can also post passages of prose, as long as they can stand more or less alone by themselves and show high poetic quality.

Try not to post entire poems. Let us keep this thread neat.

What do you think of this two? Which one is the best?

>I - by Fernando Pessoa's heteronym Alberto Caeiro

''The spring moon goes high in the sky.
I think of you and I’m whole inside.

When I run through the empty fields a light breeze comes to me.
I think of you, I murmur your name and I’m not me: I’m happy.

Tomorrow you’ll come and go with me to pick flowers in the field
And I’ll go with you through the fields to watch you picking flowers.

I already see you tomorrow picking flowers with me in the fields
Because when you come tomorrow and walk with me in the field to collect flowers
It will be a happiness and a truth for me''

>II - from Dylan's song 'One more cup of coffee'

''Your sister sees the future
Like your mama and yourself
You've never learned to read or write
There's no books upon your shelf
And your pleasure knows no limits
Your voice is like a meadowlark
But your heart is like an ocean
Mysterious and dark

One more cup of coffee for the road
One more cup of coffee 'fore I go
To the valley below''
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>>8619264
>from God-knows-where
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>>8619264
Cherrypicking.

Blonde on Blonde
Highway 69 revisited
Desire
Blood on the Tracks
Freewheelin Bob Dylan
Bringing it all back home

Masterpieces
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>>8619264
>I celebrated the Dylan prize, because I much prefer him to some random journalist from God-knows-where.

>journalist
>from God-knows where

Can we guess what your flag looks like? Does it have some red? And some white? And some blue?
Are there some stars?
Some stripes?

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Where can I find texts of ancient Greek transliterated with Latin script? This is a thing, right?
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>>8619261
Why would you want that?
Translations of Greek texts into Latin used to be a thing though- if you look around 18th century editions of classics you'll find a lot of Greek with facing Latin translation.
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>>8619261
Which text in particular? I'm not aware of it being a thing other for whole texts, only to explain the pronunciation of given words or quotes, but it shouldn't be too hard to make a set of find & replace rules for the greek characters and do your own transliteration?
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>>8619261
Copypaste the Greek text in Google translation and the Latin script will be automatically displayed below.

>ándra moi énnepe, moúsa, polýtropon, ós mála pollá
>plánchthi, epeí Troíis ierón ptolíethron épersen:
>pollón d᾽ anthrópon íden ástea kaí nóon égno,
>pollá d᾽ ó g᾽ en pónto páthen álgea ón katá thymón...

It's the beginning of the Iliad.

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You know, I'm still not quite sure Dylan should have won that Nobel Prize, but I think if they were going to give it to a musician, he's the most deserving. I'm not even upset about it.
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>>8619254
I am glad you are not upset, anon.
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>>8619254
>but I think if they were going to give it to a musician, he's the most deserving
actual garbage opinion, good job
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>>8619254
Yeah, it was a decent choice

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>Mary Shelley wrote Frankenstein at age 18
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>>8619240
Take a redpill it wasn't a woman who write it, it was husband.
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>>8619250
>it was husband
no it was dog
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>implying byron didn't write it while cucking shelley

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Ulysses if you read it right.
The Bible after Noah's episode
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>>8619225
years ago I enjoyed "canticle for leibowitz" and "martian chronicles"
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>>8619253

You are the meme lord

I salute you

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>have to write an essay
>40 pages (pictures, title, blanks and table of contents not included - only text)
>A4 size paper
>font size 12
>plus power point
>script for myself for presentation speech/talk
>prepared list of ansvers to questions I might be asked during the defence round
>its due in 3 days

I managed to do that back then although I loathed it. Now, years later, I find that kind of thing enjoyable, but sadly the gymnasium is over for me. Is there a real world equivalent to this that can feed me?
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what typeface?
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>>8619211
papyrus
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>>8619206
Just write essays on things you're interested in. Give yourself a tight timeline if that gets you hard.

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I know he's simultaneously looked down upon and praised to all fuck here, but for those out there who have read multiple of his stories, which one was your favourite?
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>>8619113
Electric Ant, Chrononauts Like Us, and I Hope I Shall Arrive Soon are all great.
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>>8619113
I've read five of his novels, a novella, and about a dozen of his short stories. Of the novels, Martian Time Slip is the one I enjoyed the most, followed by Do Androids Dream Of Electric Sheep. They both deal with his preoccupations (subjective realities and the human mind) in a satisfying way, without being incoherent.

I read the Three Stigmata Of Palmer Eldritch and Flow My Tears The Policeman Said, and they are good books if you are already converted to PKD's style. Stigmata is his big LSD-like analogy, Flow My Tears is a book where everybody else has collectively forgotten a celebrity.

The novel I enjoyed the least was The Man In The High Castle - his only Hugo award winning book, so figure that out.

Of the short stories I have read (none later than 1964) Second Variety, Paycheck, Foster You're Dead, The Mold Of Yancy, and If There Were No Benny Cemoli are standouts. They are stories about cold-war paranoia, robots, false realities, media conspiracies. This is some of his best writing IMO, darkly comic and imaginative, and the more I read of his short stories, the more I think this was his best medium.

I read The Variable Man, his future war/time-slip novella from the fifties, and it is good but not an ideal introduction to his style, more of a curiosity.

I'd like some novel recommendations myself.
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>>8619113
VALIS - hands down his best book

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I just started reading this and it feels like ive started in the middle of a series, this is the first dan simmons book ive read. Is there another book im missing?
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No. Why do you have that feeling?
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>>8619014
no background on the characters, it just starts with "the consul" and the other characters. no history on the planets or anything. usually these types of books tell us why the war started, where the character is from and how when they were young something happened to them that changed them forever etc etc.
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>>8619031
You can't be very far in. The book is divided into sections, each one telling the backstory of an individual character. It's been likened to the structure of Chaucer's Canterbury Tales.

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I'm trying to get into jewish literature, what writers do you recommend?
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>>8618935
You mean literature written by Jewish authors?

Hannah Arendt is GOAT
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Isaac Bashevis Singer
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Auster, Roth, Oz, Mailer, Salinger.

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I need some good quotes by socialist philosophers or about socialism but I can't find the right one. Help me /lit/. Pic not related.
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>>8618927
>le epic 'let's bash leftists' thread
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>>8618927
"im gay" carl marks
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>>8618932
>>8618934
C'mon guys, don't play me like that.

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Where were you when you discovered the finest memoir ever written?
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>>8618859
it's NOT a goddamn memoir.
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>>8618861
Norm never took Adam Eget's gun?
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>>8618867
Oh sure, that happened.

But other than that! NOT a memoir, get it into your head!

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When it comes to writing, how do you remember all the words you learned and checked while reading? Sometimes I feel like I retain nothing.

Writing thread, I suppose.
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>>8618842
Ones that are common I just remember after a while without nothing them down. Other words i like but don't occur that often/very rarely i note down somewhere
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>>8618842
Synonyms, my man. Ive learned more words by trying to find another way of saying it then through reading. I dont like to disrupt the flow by googling when i do read and usually the meaning is easily implied.

Google "[your word] define" and not only do you get a load of useful synonyms but the history of the word too. I use it way more than both my dictionary and Roget's.
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>>8618860
This is good advice. Thanks.

This isn't very good. He's just trying to score heroin the whole time.
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It's Burroughs' best book
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>>8618807
>reading for plot
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I enjoyed this book, however I do respect your opinion;)

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is he any good at writing? I'm starting Crying of Lot 49 tonight or should I start with something else?


also should I read inherent vice before or after watching the film?
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>>8618790
>should I read inherent vice before or after watching the film?
before
the movie makes no sense otherwise
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>>8618790
Amazing writing, anon. The best aesthetic experience you'll ever had after Joyce. TCoL49 is the best place to start. Both book and film of Inherent Vice are fun.
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>>8618802
Still found it to be an enjoyable ride.

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