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>See qtπ girl reading The Old Man and the Sea at college
>Walk up to her
>"So you like Hemingway huh?"
>"Yes, he's brilliant!" she responds, clearly excited
>Decide to engage her in an intelligent literary discussion
>"Did you know that he killed himself because he hadn't any talent?"
>"E-excuse me?" (she is clearly impressed by my expertise)
>"He can't write, he can't think; there's no discernible talent"
>"Ooo-kay..." she says and turns back to her book
>I tear it from her hands and launch it across the room with all my strength
>"Why don't you read some real literature instead?"
>"What the hell!?"
>"I recommend DFFW. Now there's a man's man"
>"I don't like DFW!"
>"DFFW," I correct her. "It has two f's"
>She collects her book from where it lies three metres away and storms off, completely defeated by my insoluble logic
>I open my laptop
>That feel when no gf
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Hemingway is actually better than DFW. People only started reading DFW because he offed himself.
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>>9029395
DFFW*
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Nice pasta

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>theorists spend the 20th century studying liteary theory to uncover the nature of literature
>theory is barely going on these days

So... did we find the nature of literature? What's the answer...?

If we didn't, why does nobody give a shit anymore and theory is going nowhere compared to its 20th century activity when there's still a quest to be had?
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>>9029342

When the Soviet Union collapsed, the liberal Western governments stopped funding their disinformation campaigns and most universities had to cut their literature departments down to actual size.
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>>9029342
There are more books written every year than can be read in a lifetime
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>>9029342
How many years until you think Gender Studies is solved?

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in the end, what's more important than yourself?
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being as in essence
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The bumhole
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>>9029258

Saving the fractured timelines and bringing harmony back to hte universe.

Your lit guilty pleasures? I like reading new age pseudoscience
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>>9029234
Shit, negro. I didn't realize he has another book. I read Biocentrism and felt it was an interesting idea but pretty shallow too. Does this take it a step deeper?
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>>9029234
>Does this take it a step deeper
Yeah it goes into even more crazy metaphysics like where the universe is located within reality. Good read, definitely worth it if you enjoyed Biocentrism
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>b-b-but what if we don't know all the stuff about things?

I haven't read anything above a sixth grade level in years.

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How do I legitimately understand what this guy is writing about? I'm 40 pages away from finishing minima moralia, and I feel like I understood less than half of it.
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>>9022663
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>>9029044
delet this.

No, seriously his critique on fascism is good, but that's not the central topic he's concerned about.
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>>9029073
don't tell what to do fascist

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I a nativ german speaker, but I'm also fluent in english.

>Don't know if I should read german or english translations of foreing languages.

Can anyone relate?
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>>9029027
Can't relate, but there are more English translations generally speaking, so you should have some more quality options. But if you feel your German is a step above your English, just read the available German translation because you might get more out of it.
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>>9029027
I can relate. Since I speak spanish I usually read spanish translations of books which were originally written in a romance language. And everything else in english if available.
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>>9029027
I can, the english translations are usually cheaper

ps. What is some good literature for learning deutsch? Translating Kinderseele by Hesse word by word with a dictionary now and it wasn't a very good idea; the words are there but the phrases don't make any sense. (I wonder if this is how Pynchon writes)

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this is the best book of all times
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>>9028890
i plan on reading this very soon, what am i in for?
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Bible
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>>9029151
The best book of all times

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Who is his best character and why is it Alyosha?
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>not zosima

gtfo pleb
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>>9028876
/thread
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>>9028863
Alyosha did it. It was the one night he ever let down his guard and got drunk.

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Self-awareness is the worst possible thing that can happen to a species.

Self-awareness is the main reason why we're so miserable.
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>>9028845
Stop being so self aware then, have you tried that, you weak-willed faggot
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I concur. I became self-aware and now all I want to do is die.
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Believing Schopenhauer and not getting into mysticism is like breaking your leg and not going to a doctor.

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I thought I bought the King James Bible, but have since noticed it is actually the "New King James Bible". Is this similar enough to the original? Or should I not bother and go buy a new one?
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>>9028840
New King James is basically KJV but more 'modernized' to help better understand the Scriptures. It reads much smoother than KJV (I own both buy prefer NKJV)

I like both versions desu
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>>9028840
What the hell was Gloucester's problem? Did he even want to be king or he just felt like life was meaningless without constant conflict and war going on?
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>>9029216
Thanks man

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Only dubs and above will count. We start with /lit/ 1:1, /lit/ 1:2, /lit/ 1:3. Chapter ends with x:10 then we move to chapter x+1:1, x+1:2 Follow after the last Winrar. (if last Winrar got to write 1:3, then you'll attempt 1:4)
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Dr Pavel, I'm CIA
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The end.
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I'm loving it

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So yesterday I posted I was about to read pic related for the first time (I used a different picture before, I thought this book was a little cringle, things you do as a teenager)

Well I've read Dagon, The Statement of Randolph Carter, The doom that came to Sarnath and the Cats of Ulthar

And so far I've really enjoyed it. Starting with Dagon, I thought it was a little weak. It weird then that this is the first story in the book. It has a very cosmic horror feel but the story doesn't really go anywhere. If I were the guy I'd chalk up the whole experience as a crazy fever dream and not some impossible realization.

Second is The Statement of Randolph Carter. This one was my favorite. Its pretty short so if you have 5 minutes I'd recommend reading it. It really simple, has a nice spooky ending, and unlike Dagon if the events of the story happened to me I'd be left always feeling curious about it.

Third is The doom that came to Sarnath. I enjoyed this one a bit. It's very middle of the road. I can kind of see how it's loosely linked to Dagon, but tells a much more interesting story. Over all enjoyable but average.

Finally, The Cats of Ulthar. Another really sort story (something like 3 pages long). Its got a bit of a Roald Dahl Kiss Kiss vibe to it which I enjoyed. It also follows the trend of alien cities. This was something I wasn't expecting as I thought Lovecraft was more about impossible monster god and forbidden knowledge. Just goes to show what pop culture can do to something.

Anyway, what are other peoples thoughts and feeling on the works of H.P Lovecraft?
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I can recall reading a short story by him of a character dreaming about a city located near a body of water. Also remember liking it a lot more than his rants about "indescribable horrors," but I can't remember what the story was called, since I was 14 or 15 when I read it. Does anyone know what story I'm talking about?
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>>9030259

What fictional novels would you describe as weird and esoteric?
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Foucault's Pendulum
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>>9028802
what you recommend it?
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>>9028796
my diary desu

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Hey y'all just finished The Master and Margarita a couple weeks ago. I enjoyed it but I'm not quite sure what it's all about. Thoughts?
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bump or whatever
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Cute cat.
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>>9028780

Bought this a few weeks back, was looking for something a little easier to read after finishing up The Waves. Would you recommend?

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Is /lit/ interested in a new age philosophy thread? Included, but not limited to, the following:

>post-nihilism
>post-existentialism
>post-postmodernism
>posthumanism
>transhumanism
>-ism of your choice, with fries & salad
>you get the idea

A little background: the Axial Age

>Jaspers described the Axial Age as "an interregnum between two ages of great empire, a pause for liberty, a deep breath bringing the most lucid consciousness". It has also been suggested that the Axial Age was a historically liminal period, when old certainties had lost their validity and new ones were still not ready.

>In addition to Jaspers, the philosopher Eric Voegelin referred to this age as The Great Leap of Being, constituting a new spiritual awakening and a shift of perception from societal to individual values. Thinkers and teachers like the Buddha, Pythagoras, Heraclitus, Parmenides, and Anaxagoras contributed to such awakenings which Plato would later call anamnesis, or a remembering of things forgotten.

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axial_Age

First thought: nihilism is to me the necessary and general condition. However: can anybody seriously call themselves "nihilists" anymore? With a straight face? And don't we all know this? Isn't that why it's the age of ideology?

Nihilism is the precursor to ideology; but one problem today is excessive self-awareness of ideologies. More Jung and less Freud may be required.

Second thought: If we know everything is ideology, doesn't it make sense to adopt a super-ideological perspective? An ideology that includes other ideologies? Is there even another option?

Note: in my view, 'capitalism' is not an ideology, any more than 'nihilism' is.

Third thought: maybe we're in an ideological axial age. Really drawing the conclusions from this would be the step beyond postmodernism. As I see it there are two options: super-tribalism (likely, but grim) and super-cosmopolitanism (unlikely, but more attractive). Transhumanism cuts both ways here.

Fourth thought: a lot starts with Nietzsche. But in addition to the ubermensch there are also the "Good Europeans." It is my suspicion that Nietzsche would have taken Goethe over Cesare Borgia. More Goethes are a good look. Goethe does not do ideology.

Final thought: in 2017 we're heading away from globalization. Fair point. But it stands to reason that eventually we're going to head back there. And yes, I do enjoy talking out of my ass.

So I'll leave it there for now. New age/global brain/integral/East-West philosophy general. Good luck out there today, you sexy bastards.
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>>9028728
what happens when the chinese and indians take over in fifty years?
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>>9028740
It's an interesting question. As with virtually everything else in my king-in-a-nutshell universe, Trump is a galactic anomaly. Not only is it very difficult to predict what he will do, it's harder still to know what the results might be. If he starts a trade war with China, or if they don't keep up as well with the Joneses as was formerly predicted, then the the future might not be as Chinese as some (including me!) might once have predicted. They may yet persist as outstanding vidya waifus tho.

https://www.lombardiletter.com/china-move-shows-fear-economic-collapse/4979/

http://nationalinterest.org/feature/china-will-probably-implode-16088

India, I have no idea. But when was the last time the world feared The Rise of India? And besides, the Vedanta and so on is some of the most chill philosophy in existence.

So yeah, I don't really know. Indian philosophy yes, Indian economics...okay?
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>>9028806
>tfw you notice those mannequin-ankles & knees tho
>tfw vidya waifu is a sexbot apparently inside an MMO...
>yep looks like the future all right

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