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And if so, what might it mean?

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>>9026486
>they're right you know
Most of the time and for most people, the manipulating of your image to convey a sense of knowledge through nice presentation and eloquence is the right way to go. It's all about presentation - how you appear to others. Even if you where well educated and versed, if you do not convey an according image no one will give a shit.
Educate yourself and stop whining fag.
Good luck

>why don't you apply at the library anon?

>>9027434
>Most of the time and for most people, the manipulating of your image to convey a sense of knowledge through nice presentation and eloquence is the right way to go. It's all about presentation - how you appear to others. Even if you where well educated and versed, if you do not convey an according image no one will give a shit.
Why should I give a shit whether they give a shit? The only people you really need to go out of your way to impress are your employers and people you're trying to get in bed with. Let everyone else think what they want.

>>9026471
Plays by his own rules

Killing and sex are linked deeply in the human psyche, check out Grossman's Art of Killing for an in-depth exploration

>>9026471
because women like to be raped by big strong men. that simple.

>>9026385
I don't know. Over in /swtg/ we are reading Mythology and A Brief History of Ancient Greece. I suggest you join us and read these works for historical context and a general frame of reference before jumping into the Iliad.

>>9026385
Drama. Lots of drama from mainly Achilles.

>>9026385
Its basically Capeshit tier. Don't expect anything special by modern standards

>>9026336
>Being overly conscious/cultivated is a sickness, leading to self loathing, anxiety and doubt.
I believe that he was fundamentally the same when he wrote his memoirs and when he was in school.

If you liked Notes from Underground then read his other short stories, especially White Nights and A Gentle Creature. They are very easy to read, and have more emotion from the romance angle than Notes from Underground has.

>>9026336
>Being overly conscious/cultivated is a sickness, leading to self loathing, anxiety and doubt.

Not necessarily. It's important to not the historical context of the novel and consider how society treats Zverkov and the narrator.

The narrator is undeniably a well-educated and smart man. Society, however, fully rejects the narrator who is forced to work a menial, miserable job and be entirely unhappy with his existence.

Zverkov, on the other hand, is a piece of shit, yet Zverkov is the type of person whom is lauded by Russian society at the time. Keep in mind the footnote at the beginning of the novel, where Dostoevsky indicated that this is a work of fiction, yet such men must exist, because these are the types of men that Russian society produces.

At the time Russia was still essentially operating under feudalism. Europe was moving towards democracies and republics, and their philosophy was influencing Russian society. So Russian society was extremely backwards compared to European society at the time, yet Russian citizens had access to revolutionary European philosophy. This is one of the many reasons that there are not many renowned Russian philosophers; Russian society stifled dissenting thought, but some authors (such as Dostoevsky) could get away with pseudo-philosophical novels.

>The man of heightened conscious is not a man of action. To act, one must be at ease and without doubt.

The man of action thing really boils down to the narrator's interaction with the officer that the narrator perceived as disrespecting him (note again, Russian society's dismissal of the narrator, and the narrator's awareness of this dismissal). The officer doesn't give two shits about the narrator, but the narrator becomes obsessed with earning some abstract respect.

When the narrator bumps the officer the narrator is elated, but only temporarily. This whole man of action thing is a result of the narrator's simultaneous inferiority/superiority complex.

I'm typing a lot and need to sleep. I love discussing this novel, so I'll check this thread tomorrow if there are responses. Have a good night, /lit/.

I love this book but it depresses the shit out of me. One of the most memorable parts for me is when he talks about how man is the master of ungratefulness. You can think everything you've ever wanted is X and once you achieve/get it you'll quickly lose interest and become depressed again.

>>9026311
Calvin and Hobbes.

calvin & hobbes

>>9026311

That's the smallest fucking picture ever posted. Read the manual for your potato phone.

>>9026137
>Do any of you read philosophy/psychoanalyz books to try to find a way to escape your own pathetic life
>Escape

What have you exactly read Anon?

>>9026137
This character you're portraying sucks.

>>9026168
With "escape" I didn't mean escapism but rather finally lead a happy, or rather not so shitty, life.
I have read a lot of the Greeks, but after realizing that reading philosophy hasn't actually offered me anything positive in my life (what I was seeking) I took a break from philosophy and got heavily invested into psychoanalysis. I have read interpretation of dreams, ego and the Id, introduction to psychoanalyzis, on murder and melancholia, I read some Jung and some books by some unknown authors only to realize that the more books I read the more I realize that nothing helps.
>>9026199
I am a worthless neet, I tried working for years but it didn't help so I just went back to being a neet on welfare.

>>9026112
Neither, its just reddit tier

>>9026124
Not all peculiar things have to be Reddit tier, pal.

Different question:

Is it the smartest thing or the dumbest thing?

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>>9026053
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PTZOuKx09k

I dont know if that is or can be true man, maybe if you at least also had the writing open in front of you, you could always pause, and rewind and listen to a paragraph or sentence multiple times I spose

>>9026053
This probably means you have better auditory working memory. Try repeating this again with another book.

>>9026053

I'm listening to Gravity's Rainbow audiobook right now and although some sections/themes are confusing, I think I am doing a fairly good job of keeping track of the important things in my head and I just check summary sites to make sure I'm not completely mixed up sometimes.

>>9026008
>Trump
>Literate

This gives me a far less favorable view of Pynchon then. I wouldn't expect him to be friendly with an authoritarian.

Have you ever seen Donald Trump and Thomas Pynchon together at the same time? Neither have I. What could it mean?

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>>9025976
If you need to ask

non-cognitivism

non-naturalistic moral realism

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>main character is an author

>book takes place in my anus

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>>9025697
>main character has daddy issues

I don't know, but I recognize the photo.
It was taken by a friend of mine, known affectionately as "nigga who about to get cut."

Some Guy.

>>9025713
It's spelled Sum Gai

>>9025651
What are yours?

Kino

>>9025659
I haven't read it but I see it as interesting insight on the man behind the flair. I don't have the money for it until tomorrow but I plan on ordering it soon

>>9025638
Who?

>>9025629
I remember when i first moved to united states for university, we had to read hamlet in one of the english classes. I was very happy as i had never read shakespeare before. Then, i read it, and i kept thinking is this it?

This is the guy that only anglos have the audacitynto compare to cervantes/goethe/dante?

>>9026277
de gustibus non est disputandum