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>>9027839
Mathfag here

>What was the main effect in your mind,
Not sure, you just learn to see things in a different way, I became more skeptic for examlpe and my procces of thought is more rigorous (or so I believe).
> in your perception of reality
The thing is that math has nothing to do with "physical reality", I guess I am more "platonic" because for me math exists in a different plane of reality. On a physical level I would say that now I look at nature with another eye, for example one can see fractal patterns in trees and plants.
>and in your life after several years of math training?
As much as I like math, I know that not everything in life is as simple as math, feeling play a much more important role in every day life than just logic, each has it's own place, but people tend to use one instead of the other in the wrong circunstances. Knowing when to think and when to feel and how to mixthem is the most important thing in life.

>>9027947
>Not sure, you just learn to see things in a different way, I became more skeptic for examlpe and my procces of thought is more rigorous (or so I believe).
>>9027947
>On a physical level I would say that now I look at nature with another eye, for example one can see fractal patterns in trees and plants.

that's quite interesting and valuable

>>9027947
>for example one can see fractal patterns in trees and plants.
I starting noticing them when I was like 4
>tfw to intelligent for math

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>>9027806

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>>9027806
Anything that does not reduce negative emotions is useless, pointless philosophy that should be rejected.

"
Dear patrons and disciples!
Without deceit or boasting,
Humble, honest, and straightforward,
I now tell you the truth!

A load of books that dont help you become a kinder and comppasionate person is but a burden; except for lies and boasting.
What good can they ever do?

If one cannot stabilize his mind, all his words are hallow and shallow and will become self-deceiving.
Accustomed long to meditating on the secret whispered truths,
I have forgotten all that is said in written or printed books.
I have forgotten the way to trace the roots of verbs, and the sources of words and phrases.
You, oh learned one, may trace out these things in your books

Certain people study for pleasure only,
then with great pride in their learning,
they lose their love for others.
Revile not others with your bigotry and egotism, root up all errors from within!

There are people who consider themselves great intellectuals, they may read thousends of useful or useless books. but only with the motive of gloryfying their own life.
Do not drink this poison of the desire for recognition.
Those who think only of worldly goals are content with studying a few books. They rejoice in their own success and in the failure of others.
I turn away from them and always will.

people do not know how to feel shame. They feel ashamed of things, which are natural while unashamedly indulging in evil deeds and hypocrisy, which are truly shameful.
There is no conduct more dangerous than piling up faults little by little, and handful by handful

You might remain sealed in a library for months or even years,
But if you fail to make any progress in the state of your mind,
Later, when you tell everyone about all that you did over such a long time,
Aren’t you just bragging about all the hardships and deprivation?
And all their praise and acknowledgements will only make you unjustly proud.

Wealth, success and status are all simply ways of attracting enemies and demons.
The greatest achievement is selflessness.
The greatest worth is self-mastery.
The greatest quality is seeking to serve others.
The greatest goodness is a peaceful mind.
The greatest patience is humility.
There’s no better sign of accomplishment than a disciplined mind,
This is true victory for the real warrior who carries no weapons.

I tossed away the dry ashes of deceit, insensitivity, and pretentious falsehood.
Philosophies are made by mind.
And speculative words mean little,
they are of no use.
In conquering the passions,
Try to subdue your self-conceit,
My dear priests and scholars.
"

t. Buddha

>>9027802
Finnegans Wake, by James Joyce

>>9027802
montaigne

>>9027802
the complete essays of michel de >>9028803

The waves and stop there

>>9027792
I'd recommend To the Lighthouse. Then Mrs. Dalloway, and read in chronological order. I get that To the Lighthouse is the logical next step after Mrs. Dalloway, but it's also a very good introduction. You'll be fully familiarised with her style, and if you don't like it, you'll have read a very important book that reflects her abilities and work.

Avoid Jacob's Room though because it's absolute shit. Don't read it.

>>9027831
Thanks for your input.

Pnin

>>9027760

Steinbeck, Calvino, Gogol's short stories.

>>9027760
Shogun

Because it didn't say a retard pretentious subplt about an indian boy being the author's self-insert

Normie plebs

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>>9027707
I should ask you the same thing.

>>9027700
Wtf I hate North Korea now

>>9027700
Propaganda by South Korea and the USA.

I am not pro North Korea, I am not pro South Korea.
I am not against North Korea, I am not against South Korea.

But this book is fiction. Very little in the book can be verified or proofen and some things are already debunked.

>>9027894
>I am not pro North Korea, I am not pro South Korea.
>I am not against North Korea, I am not against South Korea.
>I am not against North Korea
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufhKWfPSQOw

>>9027599
Me too friend, me too

>he doesn't understand the full conception of marxism

>>9028642
>You havent spent $250,000 to receive endless lectures on this subject

Disdain for plebs

Stupidity

He has a beard and a moustache.

>>9027417
I read it for my ethnic classes. The style is unbearable, but the plot itself is pretty intriguing. Also, the allusions to Garner's story are just great

>>9027710
>read it for my ethnic classes. The style is unbearable
>b-but the plot is pretty intriguing
kek

>>9027417
Read it for a Humanities class in uni. Its okay, but I couldnt stand how it was written. Unless you're interested in black american fiction or the black american experience, I'd pass on it.

>teehee I can't wait to talk about politics with my friends on [not /pol/]
People like you should be killed

>>9027388
The sad thing is that it's taken people Trump's election to realize we live in a society of hyper-surveillance, governance by permanent unaccountable bureaucracy and 'truth' managed and manipulated from on high.

when will i care enough to read these over-talked about fiction books instead of non-fiction

>>9027376
he wanted to fuck a total slut since a woman who slept with countless guys would be rebellious to the state

Double Think has so saturated his brain that he sincerely believes bad thing are good.

>>9027425
>>9027426
You guys are prudes.

>>9027265
Life is a bitch ass thing

>>9027265
We have existence forced upon us, we should be able to reject it.

>>9027265
Suicide is literally the most ubermensch act imaginable

>>9027227
John Hawkes

Of the ones I've read so far, The Passion Artist was probably the weakest, but I like all of them.

>>9027227

Dostoyevsky
The Adolescent (aka A Raw Youth)

I suppose it was a final opportunity for him to work some things out in novel form prior to Karamazov, but I find it so unengaging. I can't get on board with the protagonist, either for or against him, and it doesn't seem to talk about much of anything, relative to his other four novels (or virtually all of his shorter work)

>>9027227
Hermann Broch.

Sleepwalkers was too fucking long.

>>9027196
goblin market

I WANDER THRO' EACH CHARTER'D STREET

Bunp