First /lit/ post but does anyone else feel unnerved when they read books such as, "Brave New World," and "Jurassic Park." There is something that makes me sick about humans manipulating nature to such degrees. Post your favorite books that fit into this genre and let me know your opinions. Pic unrelated.
>>9966786
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>>9966786
I suppose the ultimate book for you would be Frankenstein, especially as Victor shares your feelings on meddling with God's domain after the fact. Other suggestions would be Herbert West: Reanimator by Lovecraft (doctor brings the dead back to life), or Cat's Cradle by Vonnegut which is (at least in part) about the terrible things that can happen when scientists create bigger and better weapons without considering the permanent effect they can have on the world.
The whole cyberpunk genre might also fit into your specification (start with Neuromancer), as there's usually elements of surpassing the natural there via augmentation (as well as creating life in the form of artificial intelligence).
Afraid I can't be more specific than those. Perhaps some of the fine folks in the SFFG can help?
Analytic is easy to define, just analysis, conciseness, an approach based on logic/mathematics, etc. What then fundamentally constitutes or defines Continental philosophy? Is it just anything that doesn't fall under the umbrella of analytic philosophy?
>>9966779
But the fourth point is completely unnecessary, as the success of the natural sciences did not supplant or eliminate philosophy. Just look at the philosophy of science, particularly of physics, in the analytic tradition. If anything, science and philosophy are continuous. Continental reevaluation isn't necessary
People won't like this, but IMO continental philosophy's defining trait is that it's written as a game – it's completely involuted and obsessed with its own tradition, and the idea is to come up with cleverer and cleverer ways of subverting that tradition, deconstructing it and rebuilding it, over and over again. Continental philosophy has no content or purpose outside of this self-referential academic game. It's like a heat sink for intelligence, a high form of mental athleticism.
How does it compare to A Song of Ice and Fire?
>>9966662
I just started the first book. I'm not far enough in to make a solid opinion yet. However, the story starts off with a bang. I have high hopes for it being an action-packed fantasy series.
>>9968668
A Song of Ice and Fire only appear as low fantasy cause none of the POVs and barely anyone they meet have magic. Yet the world is full of magic. It's a shitty premise either way. Three should be one.
Reminder that
>Both Jasons are /ourguys/
>Dilsey is /ourgirl/
>Quentin is a stupid edgy nu-male fuck
>Caddy & her daughter are literal whores
>>9966615
I don't even remember a second Jason, but the important one is /pol/ trash.
>>9966634
>I don't even remember a second Jason
any good recommendations on the simulation hypothesis? I'm not only interested in scifi but also in the philosophy and the epistemology behind it.
>>9966614
>philosophy and the epistemology behind it
There is none.
>>9966642
I think there is
The fact that the simulation hypothesis is not disprovable sets some hard limits for the knowledge about existence and perception, just the same way hard solipsism is not disprovable.
>>9966614
So there are two directions to look in. There is the technologist version of simulation. This is what Elon Musk and other silicon valley types are generally talking about, something akin to the Matrix or even Plato's Cave.
The other angle (and I think the more nuanced and interesting take) is pomo version, put forward by people like Baudrillard, Debord, McLuhan. In this version, it isn't a digital apparatus that prevents access to the Real, but rather the symbolic world of knowledge that is slowly but surely covering over the real with the Simulacra.
Both versions overlap, but I think Elon Musk is missing the bigger picture. I'd recommend Society of the Spectacle, Simulation and Simulacra, The Perfect Crime and Impossible Exchange as good texts to read.
What's some good /furcore/ literature, /lit/?
>>9966582
my diary desu
Fantastic Mr. Fox
Watership Down
Animal Farm
The Master and Margarita
Well lads... is it true? Is Kafka overrated?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.theatlantic.com/amp/article/309373/
>>9966577
>the atlantic
Jesus christ, what a fucking idiot. Who is Mr. fucking Atlantic to say what makes a great writer? Kafka was an absolute genius, one of the most truthful writers to ever exist. This idiot has such a narrow-minded conception of literature, seemingly based off of cliches he heard from other people. I hate modern society's arrogance in the face of the classics.
>>9966647
This. I can't believe The Atlantic ran that. Kafka was massively influential ... unlike Joseph Epstein or whatever fraud wrote that hit piece. That was almost painful to read due to its ignorance.
>Great writers are impressed by the mysteries of life; poor Franz Kafka was crushed by them.
Is he saying here that Proust wasn't crushed by life? Because he definitely was, in a different way than Kafka, but in all honesty, all great writers are crushed and broken.
Just finished No Longer Human by Osamu Dazai. Did I like it?I could understand and relate to Yozo's view of the world, despite knowing that it is selfish and self destructive. Is it naive to think that his life could have ended differently, if he could have learned and accepted that he was someone to be loved?
Honestly not his best work. I feel that it's only popular for its shock value.
>>9966566
no, that was the point of the book, basically. his self-hatred prevented him from seeing his capacity for compassion. Contrary to popular belief, he isn't exactly a self-insert for Dazai, though the book has autobiographical undertones. He's more like a Stephen Daedelus
>>9966617
Right, and I understand that the epilogue clearly illustrates that point when she calls him a good boy, an angel. I guess my question is more along the lines of, could he have learned to love himself? Or was there a point of no return, where he gets too deep in his self hatred?
I just finished Frankenstein, and it was spectacular. Is his monster suffering from the same social phenomenon of blackpilling that we see today? His destruction of anything beautiful, his absolute nihilism? This is a little /pol/ but I think /lit/ is the best place to ask.
no he just has daddy problems
if frankenstein had looked after the monster better it would have been okay
>>9966556
true
frankenstein was irrational and maybe the dumbest character in the book?
>>9966561
no, just blind
Guys im gonna do it
I'm gonna introduce it into the U.S.A
Better yet introduce it in your ass
Do you actually think that pleb trash will impress anyone here? Lurk more /pol/fag.
>>9966536
Did you look at pic-related? lurk more newfag
Has anyone here read the CTMU?
People discount it as garbage but have yet to give any valid criticism.
In response to the only valid criticisms I've seen:
>muh neologisms
Langan has to invent words seeing as he's describing concepts that have never been thought of before.
>no maths
From what I understand his theory is entirely tautological and worked out without extensive equations.
>dismissed by modern science as a farce
He has this pretension that he's better than others ans claims academia to be a club that he is not part of. In essence, he's blacklisted, so it's probable that if that were true, it has something to do with it, seeing as we all know the modern academic circle jerk to be biased or exclusive to some degree.
Overall I would like to see someone offer valid criticism. You can download the entire thing on his megafoundation website by searching CTMU.
>Inb4: he's a pseud
What the hell is ctmu
only pseuds are obsessed with pseuds
What are the 5 to 10 essential books everyone should read to avoid being a pleb? I want to stop worrying about people calling me a pleb.
So far the list is:
The republic
The brothers Karamazov
War and Peace
Great Expectations
A tale of two cities
>>9966480
Add Moby Dick, Don Quixote, Ulysses, the Iliad, and the Odyssey
The fault in our stars
harry potter series
I wrote a story (approx. 5,000 words) that I'd like to put out there. Where should I submit it before I inevitably end up posting it on here to be memed on?
It still needs to go through a few more edits anyway and the content is explicit.
>>9966462
bump!
I need to publish this so that my dad will acknowledge me as human again
Best thing to do is google "submit short (genre) story", there are plenty of databases online.
>>9968529
I've done some research like that. They usually give the standard publications, which I will try. I was also wondering if there's more 'emerging' online publications or something that people were reading widely. Something like Jacobite or Jacobin, whatever it is that Nick Land has been submitting to.
Post books you got memed into reading.
>>9966391
Blood Memedian
>>9966391
Ulyshit
>>9966391
Pedoita
Which newspaper (news source) is the most /lit/?
>>9966343
Unironically the FT
Also their book recommendation articles can be good especially for non-fiction
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