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Is it okay for me to begin reading Kafka's works if I'm depressed?
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Reading depressing things while you're depressed is natural. Just don't off yourself, which shouldn't be too hard since you've survived life so far. Give yourself some credit for that, and enjoy the misery--at least it's a feeling
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>>9186207
Its OK for you to kill yourself if you're depressed. What type of stupid question is this

Depression isn't real by the way
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>>9186207
thats the best time to do it. the trial helped me through a very low point in my life.

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Imagine hypothetically that you had written a novel of the same length, obscurity, and quality as those in the meme trilogy (if you don't like them, irrelevant).

You have no connections to the literary world and nothing creative published ever, at all.

How would you go about publishing this book for maximum success (i.e., fame and money) without changing the form of the book. What is your strategy?

Do you get an agent? How do you find an agent/publisher who can "get" what you're trying to do? How do you avoid people rejecting your work and then stealing your ideas?

Thanks for taking part in this hypothetical thought experiment.
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Seriously? Nothing?
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>>9186132
You post every day, we know your book is shit.
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>>9186786
Honestly this is the first time I've ever made a thread about this. I've asked the same question in other threads and never had a response, so this time I wanted to make it centre stage.

I've also lurked a lot and never seen this particular question answered ever. It's always generic advice about how to write short shit and bottom-line bullshit about what publishers want in the current market blah blah blah... rather than actual strategies about what you would do to actually get a mammoth pomo book out as a new author (e.g., if you were DFW trying to push IJ as your first novel).

But it seems like /lit just can't answer this hypothetical question (i.e., assuming the criteria in the OP is true).

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How the hell is book design not standardized yet? Books have been written for thousands of years and yet I still find misprints, poor material and shit directories in books.

Should we go back to scrolls?
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I've never had a real problem with this, if I did it was because it was dated
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>>9186108
get a e-reader and stop being a whiny bitch
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>>9186108
I find that sometimes books printed on poor material with text that isnt as dark as usual is very easy on the eyes if you read under a lamp. You don't strain as much.

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Just had a death in the family. I've been an atheist for 6-7 years (Nietzsche's Antichrist was my favorite) and now at the first sign of real stress I really want a Christian God to exist. Can you guys recommend your best apologetics books?
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>>9186105
Your issue is you still fall for the family and loved ones spook
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>>9186110
DUDE SPOOKS LMAO
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>>9186105
Go to the primary source, the synoptic gospels and John. Mark is the shortest read.

And then Plato's Apology, where Socrates argues the immortality of the soul, in what is actually a gripping and slightly humorous courtroom exchange.

>>9186110
You're just not a human being if you deny the power of family bonds.

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Thinking about learning a language but it seems like a waste of time when i can just read more books in-staed
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It's really just a correlation/causation mistake. Smart people tend to speak several languages. Retards tend to be monolingual. Therefore plebs think that learning a language will increase their mental faculties. Unless you're still in your early teens, there's virtually nothing learning another language will do for you other than allow you to appreciate some literary works on a deeper level.
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>>9186117

In some cases it will also allow you to read stuff period.

"Everything important has been translated" is a meme, and you realize this as soon as you start delving a bit deeper in whatever your field of interest is (be it literary or technical).
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I think you should learn at least one other language, because in the process of learning a new language, you gain many insights into your own. Beyond that I don't see the point.

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I bought this book today and I alredy finished it.

But I know it has a deeper philosophical meaning. In fact I bought it because when I saw its description it reminded me of nihilism (which Im into).

But it left me so many question like who is Godot, how long have they been waiting for, what were they searching for inside their hat/boots and a lot more.
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>>9186089
The spoiler'd pic was a trifle unnecessary. I was expecting a lurid tome by our Mr Tingle.
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Wow, already? You must be smart :)
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>>9186147
Wow, you know how to sarcasm.

Such genius much intelligence.

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is unqualified reservations the biggest literary accomplishment of the 21st century?

are we really in a black enlightenment?
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Pretty srue Min Kamp is still the biggest literary accomplishment of the 21st c. so far
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>>9186082
It's an impressive work. Moldbug was right about the Cathedral. The institutions that shape public opinion act in coordination without a coordinator.
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>>9186082
>are we really in a black enlightenment?

Yes, just not in the way this loser thinks

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Do there exist any self-help books that are actually good? That is, books that do more than spout seeming truisms every other sentence with weak rational? Perhaps, too, books that aren't merely written by businessmen for businessmen, both with monetary gains in mind.

If there doesn't, are there any other sorts of books that do better what self-help books are trying to accomplish?


(Incidentally, I like pic related, but I'm aware that it's probably mostly bullshit.)
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>>9186045
no, stop being a whiny bitch
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>>9186050
YEAH!!! What he said >:(
Move along kiddo

(How do I become le ubermensch???)
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>>9186045
it just isn't literature, my dear fellow.

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"—A day of dappled seaborne clouds

The phrase and the day and the scene harmonized in a chord. Words. Was it their colours? He allowed them to glow and fade, hue after hue: sunrise gold, the russet and green of apple orchards, azure of waves, the grey-fringed fleece of clouds. No, it was not their colours: it was the poise and balance of the period itself. Did he then love the rhythmic rise and fall of words better than their associations of legend and colour? Or was it that, being as weak of sight as he was shy of mind, he drew less pleasure from the reflection of the glowing sensible world through the prism of a language many-coloured and richly storied than from the contemplation of an inner world of individual emotions mirrored perfectly in a lucid supple periodic prose?"

What did he mean by this?
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>>9186032
>"—A day of dappled seaborne clouds
Damnit. That's nearly my own

>What did he mean by this?
He's describing a myopic introvert's revelry in the days ambience, I believe. Perhaps I'm taking it out of context.
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>>9186032
Fuck. I know Joyce is a fucking institution, but the modernists have not aged well. Very flowery and pretentious. I cringed when I re-read a portrait of the artist as a young man. Even the title makes me laugh now.
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>>9186168
lol

>Writing is drawing the essence of what we know out of the shadows
Noice
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>>9185980
Is that quote made with the online Deepak Chopra wisdom generator?
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Literally the opposite is true
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>>9187597
>"Hidden meaning explores the flow of space time events"
Double noice!

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What are you currently writing?
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>>9185961
I'm wool-gathering and not writing, just like always. I can brainstorm characters and settings like the dickens though!
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Me?
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My active projects are a horror anthology that I'm about 40% finished with and a Fantasy novel.

You guys recommended this to me as a primer on how to read literature, but everything after Pound starts to talk about his exhibits is complete incomprehensible gibberish to me. All of the exhibits are written in Middle English which I can't understand at all, and most of what Pound expounds appears to apply specifically to poetry only and not prose. Am I missing something?
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>>9185955

I find Pound to come off as pretentious and hard to understand in this book. HOWEVER, give each chapter a second read. This book is mostly about poetry but can be applied to prose.

Ezra Pound is always right.
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>>9186979
>imagism
>right
Imagism is the worst cancer to plague poetry
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>>9186979
He straight out makes the assumption that the reader is already familiar with a large number of poets. Some exhibits aren't even in English.

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I had a nervous breakdown about a year ago and destroyed my entire library, and I had annotated all my read books too. I've been in and out of treatment for ages but now after some resistance I want to start reading again. I can't remember most of what I used to read, so it's a clean slate really. Reading is calming and it helps my health.

Any recommendations?
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You should read "the conspiracy for the human race" by Thomas Ligotti, it's a nice, soothing book.
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>>9185912
>he thinks he's being funny
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The Art Of The Deal, Schopenhauer On Women, Notes From Underground, Gravity's Rainbow.

Lit really likes these books because we talk about them a lot.

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>Raskolnikov
>has faith or spirituality
>believes he is above the morals of society
>fantasizes over Napoleon as the perfect man
>has delirious dream where a man is beating a horse and he's deeply upset over it
>(Nietzsche)

How the fuck did he do it?
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>>9185803
Meant to write
>has NO faith or spirituality
by the way.
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>>9185803
The dream sequence is my favourite in literature, it alone justifies the dream sequence as a literary tradition/device in my view.
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It is honestly pretty strange.

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Has anyone read this? I can't seem to find any pdf of it anywhere, and the physical copies on amazon and ebay are pretty steep.
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>>9185800
has reading books about how to persuade people actually made them persuasive to anyone other than autists?
i remember reading similar literature and it only made me unnatural/self-conscious and worse at interacting with people.
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>>9185809
Pretty sure that's not what the book is about
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>>9185800
thats what happens when u use the papyrus font unironically

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