>What are you reading
>What one are you looking forward to reading
>What do you regret buying?
Beautiful editions so I'm excited to read them
>Blood Meridian.
>Pic related just ordered. Might go with Resurrection next, but have highest hopes for Life and Fate.
>Everyman's Library Camus. He's kind of shit.
>Don Quixote & Fictions
>Into Thin Air
>Fictions, I should have got the Complete Fictions by Borges instead
The title says it all. I'll start:
Dune
Considered a classic of SF and often tops lists of 'best SF novels'.
I hate it for a number of reasons, but especially for this plothole
>Dr. Yueh is believed to be perfectly trustworthy because he has been through Imperial Conditioning, process designed to be the ultimate expression of man's ability to train the mind. People who have been through Imperial Conditioning are incapable of harming other or allowing harm to befall them through inaction. They cannot cheat, they cannot lie, they cannot betray. No matter what the threat, torture, or bribe, they CANNOT do these things. Imperial Conditioning is so perfect that those who have been through it are allowed to treat the Galactic Emperor.
>The Harkonnens have learned to do what is believed impossible - break Imperial Conditioning! They have learned how to force someone with the Imperial Conditioning to lie, cheat, betray, etc. even though this is considered totally impossible. The fact they can is so shocking, so incredible that they are forced to kill everyone who knows about it they can because if other noble houses or the Emperor knew the entire House Harkonnen would be wiped out to the last man.
>What is the secret? What incredible solution did they devise to break the unbreakable mental conditioning? How could they do the impossible to Dr. Yueh?!?!
>....they threatened his wife.
>Yup. That's all. No drugs, no torture, no reconditioning. Just 'kill your patients or we rough up the missus'. The galaxy's most perfect mind alteration is foiled by the first thing any street thug would think up.
There are more plot holes than that, but that is the one that ruined the book for me.
What about you guys?
>>9178466
>>9178466
generally the best way to get someone suggestable to to break down their ego, keep them at a lower level of consiousness by fucking around with the basic drive of the human being.
while you also have to consider Dr.Yueh's back story. We only know that he is a doctor imperial conditioning, and works for house atredies, we also know that he loves his wife.
I haven't read anything beyond the first dune but I imagine Dr. Yueh maybe might have led a life of a complete r9k
that his wife was like the entire universe to him.
I mean imagine the training to undergo imperial conditioning, not to mention becoming a doctor at the furthest reaches in the future that the human mind could possibly imagine. guy probably led a pretty dull, and ardious life for quite sometime till he found his wife, became comepletley enamoured by her.
Dr. Yueh could have been a borderline case for imperial conditioning.
Dr. Yueh is mainly a vehicle to show how fucked up the harkonen are and what lengths they'll go to to achieve their aims.
>>9178507
>Dr. Yueh is mainly a vehicle to show how fucked up the harkonen are
Of course! That is obvious.
My my point remains - If it was so very easy for the Harkonnens to break the 'unbreakable' Imperial Conditioning, why does it have a reputation?
Also, the Atreides know the Hrkonens had something to do with the death/whatever or Yueh's wife but we not able to track communications between their family doctor and their arch-enemies when they are so paranoid they suspect the Duke's concubine and mother of the heir?
Besides, let's be honest - lots of guys are 'completely enamored' of their wives. That's why they marry them! If 'having your beloved wife threatened' is all it takes to overcome the 'unbreakable' Imperial Conditioning why hadn't it been done hundreds of times already? Why didn't the conditioners know about this weakness?
Sorry. I think it is just (like the rest of the books) terrible writing.
>>9178525
becuase every relationship is unqiue
and the way they knew they could break through yuehs imperial conditioning is through his wife.
they didn't really talk about the process
but the output of that process of breaking imperial conditioning led to the harkonenes "threatening" his wife.
I thought they killed her. And he was just a broken man after that.
Has anyone done as much irreparable damage to western thought as this retard?
>dude universals exist in a separate heavenly realm lmao
No. Fuck off you complete fucking moron.
>>9178267
>t. profanelet
shouldn't you be reading Popper or something?
>>9178271
What do I need to read to understand this image?
>Inb4 the greeks
What titles first?
>>9178267
Wew. How will Platonism survive such a comprehensive and blistering critique?
>>9178283
That image is a broad representation of a certain model of Neoplatonic metaphysics
Here's another image.
Recommended authors - Plotinus and Porphyry. (Augustine relied heavily on these authors alongside Plato, and thereby influenced all of Christian theology.). Also make sure you read Plato (Apology, Crito, Phaedo, Republic, Timaeus and Meno being most relevant)
What should I read in order to understand the Phenomenology of Spirit?
I've read Kant in pure and practical reason, but nothing of Hume. A part from those two, something else? (specific titles please).
Johann Gottlieb Fichte - Complete Works
Friedrich Schelling - Complete Works
>>9178259
Just read him
>>9178259
Don't read Phenomenology of Spirit before you read or study other works by Hegel, that's all. Of course it's also better if you know enough history of philosophy, but the main point is you should first know enough Hegel. The other anon mentioning Fichte and Schelling is trolling.
Has any book legitimately changed your life?
Stop trying to find something external to fix your pathetic life. Or just read stoic literature
>>9177756
>Stop trying to find something external to fix your pathetic life.
That is legitimately good advice, anon. But how do I do that?
Heidegger & Aquinas.
I'm thinking about going to back to church. Something is missing in my life.
What is the best bible to get? I'm Catholic so that means I need one with all the books in it. That means it can't be a variant of the King James Version.
Thank you, and Assalamu Alaikum fellow anons!
Threadly reminder that KJV is a direct translation of the Catholic Vulgate and was shit even before James filled it with his political agenda
>>9176966
NSRV.
>>9177010
This is just incorrect. Is this a shit post or are you so retarded that you actually think this?
ITT: characters that remind you of yourself
For me, it is Nikolai Stavrogin, intelligent, nihilistic and with a wicked sense of humor.
im the love interest in Gay Billionare Jetplane
i can relate to the osterizer classic blender
>>9176858
hmm i think i fit pretty well with the stranger, intelligent, nihilistic and with a wicked sense of humor.
>Attending Academia in an age of YouTube, Wikipedia, Libgen, KhanAcademy, Private/Public Trackers, Subscription Based Services, Sci-Hub, Forums, Video/Audio Chat and much more
LMao, what the HELL, do you think you are doing?
>>9176711
>he's a teenager
If you can find everything you need online you must only know about stuff you can find online.
Sage
>>9176716
No argument to be found!
>>9176716
Professors regurgitate things they read online.
Daily reminder that the idea that George Orwell predicted the contemporary surveillance state is a constructed narrative to get normies to believe that they are "free thinkers" without having to think very hard. There is a reason the government has allowed this book to become popular.
>>9176621
What the fuck are you talking about
>>9176904
conspiracy fag retard, definitely believe in 9/11 being an inside job or chemtrails
So, in a round table game of poker, the government let's the people see its cards ... because somehow it ensures it wins?
I think you're a bit retarded m8.
ITT: Novels that cannot be fully understood unless the reader has inhabited the place in which the book is set.
Pic related. I don't know what non-New Orleanians must think about the people in this book unless they've experienced the people in this city for themselves.
Lord of the Rings
I am sorely disappointed in the amount of replies I am getting to my --what I thought was thought provoking--thread.
You're saying we have no imagination. And to that I say, WRONG.
Is it just me, or is western society increasingly beginning to resemble a JG Ballard novel? Mass media (particularly in the digital realm) has become a landscape in its own right, just as real and potent a the streets and skyscrapers of the city, or the shrubbery and trees of the forest. This landscape seems to have an atavistic effect on us, reawakening something tribal and feral. I'm morbidly excited to see where we end up. What do you think /lit/?
Bumping with another cool cover
I don't think so. Ballard is too much 70s or 80s. Read The Circle by Dave Eggers for a more realistic picture of our immediate future.
Just got a copy of High Rise. Been real into the effects of technology and media on society lately so I'm excited to read it.
I'm seeing zizek speak tonight. Is there anything I should know?
>>9175053
He's trying to destroy whiteness
Choose right wing
1. How do you find out when he is speaking?
2. Please ask him very quickly his thoughts on Ludwig Wittgenstein.
>>9175053
Why does he wear the T-shirt?
Write what's on your mind.
Can you get to the fucking point, Plato?
My future is like a view from a window glass in a foggy day
>>9174101
I wish I lived before the internet so I could avoid these distractions that make my life so banal.
I wish more than anything that I leave my mark enough on this world to be remembered, but I fear all the trappings of modernity have rendered our time on his earth so insignificant that few of our contemporaries will be remembered.
I am only 18 and already I feel as though I have not yet done enough and I will expire as yet another insignificant being unremembered and unimportant to everyone and everything in the future
Same rules as last time:
>Post a piece of your own work
>Critique each others work
>Don't post a piece without contributing
Tell me whas good, Anons
http://pastebin.com/pWwNp6Fq
so far I only have the first sentence. pls give constructive critiscism.
>"I am skeptical towards metanarratives" said John Everyman
>>9152911
I would have to see another sentence. I'm so far in my literary journey that I don't give anything a chance anymore. If the first few lines don't assure me that the author is on the same wavelength or """vibe""" as me, then I don't read any more.
well the archetypes are memes.
EXCEPT THEY'RE NO 'FADS'is dawkins a jungian
I know all these words but it still makes no sense
>>9182009
Pinocchio saves his father from the underworld
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hw7NvWvwVCA
Peterson low key roasts dawkins by saying that if he "thought more about it" or something that dawkins would have realized that archetypes are memes. Basically calling him dumb lol