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>>9185600
They're basically the only ones who are continuing the scholastic legacy of Plato and Aristotle. No other """"""""higher education"""""" institution even comes close.

>>9185600
I wish I was in there reading lots and discussing it with other people who are interested about it.

Stuck in fucking east Europe tho lol

>>9187405
The college only takes at most 26 students at a time. Even if you lived in the US it'd be impossible to get in.

I can't think of any instances where eating shit and drinking pee was better written.

poo poo pee pee
pepe is derivative art

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>taking reading advice from edgy murrican teenagers

>>9185136
Meditations by Marcus Aurelies
Religion (catholicism or Islam)

Basically living a holy and just life in spite of the general mediocrity.

go into a forest and get high off some fucking shrooms

As long as it makes you happy, correct

It's expensive.

I don't really care about consumerism, the structure of the workplace and production is the major problem.

You really think that jk rowling wrote anything between the lines?

The kids were sorted by their qualities or preferences. Ofc there is a flaw to excess of any of these.

But for real don't waste your time trying to read fucking harry potter closely

>>9184646
I find the he concept of school houses incredibly unnerving. Maybe because I didn't grow up in the UK, but there's just something about it that skeeves me out.

Maybe it's the whole "segregating children into groups and encouraging rivalry" thing.

They were sorted by what word they whispered multiple times when that fucking rotting turban was placed on their oily British heads

>>9183854
>curriculum which explicitly rejects the cutting edge
Why would you pay money for this? If you go to a real university and actually try, you can get involved with the creation of new knowledge, making connections and impressions that will carry you forward into a wide possibilities of career paths in addition to studying the classics. Going to St. John's is for brainlets who can't hack it in the Ivy+ schools.

The patrician choice for an unconventional college experience is to go to Deep Springs for two years and then transfer to Stanford, UChicago or one of the Ivies.

>>9183888
>Deep Springs
Shhh

>>9183888
>brainlets who can't hack it in the Ivy+ schools

as an ivy student i have really mixed opinions about the league.

it blows the fuck out of state schools to be sure but like... making ONE great faculty connection will justify anywhere you go.

I went to one of the nations better state schools, and theres nothing that has helped me more (intellectually) than the bond i forged with an associate faculty member.

I don't think he even realizes it, but the impact he made on me is tremendous.

>>9180739
>Lacan
Brilliant, but obscurantist
>Lyotard
Hack
>Foucault and Derrida
They weren't wrong

Stop thinking le evil college kids who distort them somehow discredits them

>>9180739
Foucault was gay
Derrida was an Algierian Jew
Lyotard actually is pretty based if you just read him as an objective analysis of today's world
Lacan I don't know much about but he seems like a hack

The brains of France were fried after the revolution. It took awhile to hit them, but by the 20th century they were pozzed beyond repair.

Montaigne, Descartes, La Brueye, Francois La Rouchefoucald, and Chamfort were all French, remember.

Rousseau was the last worthwhile French philosopher.

>>9170594
And Jung, you know, he talks about the subconscious. Well, guess, what, bucko! That's God!

And what do you find in the subconscious? Well, I'll give you a little example. We all know the story of Adam and Eve in the garden, that's a walled garden, you know, the ideal human environment, nature and civilization. But in that garden there lurks a snake! Now what is the snake? You might think it's just a predator, the unknown. But the subconscious is going to tell you, it's a penis! A huge reptilian penis! And you think, wow, by God, that's quite a feat of the imagination! That took the West two thousand years to figure out! It wasn't until Freud!

>>9170594
Psst...kid...wanna sort yourself out?

>>9170668
>Now what is the snake? You might think it's just a predator, the unknown. But the subconscious is going to tell you, it's a penis!

I would have guessed an umbillical cord.

>>9190610
10/10 bait thread.

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>>9190626
not bait, what do you call those audio books with sound and music sold at truck stops?

>>9190702
lot lizards

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>>9190577
“Before the seas and lands had been created,
Before the sky that covers everything,
Nature displayed a single aspect only
Throughout the cosmos; Chaos was its name”


Chapter One
Chaos

Libraries, fastfood restaurants, cafeterias, stadiums, and the community bulletin board. The scope of our discussion of loneliness can begin with places such as the ones just mentioned, that is, the relationship of loneliness to the social and public and not loneliness in its pure abstract form. Granted, it may not be the best place to see its gestation and festering growth, but I think it is the best place to observe its most fascinating effects.

Let’s examine each example in the reverse order above. These are not in of themselves the depths of modernity I mentioned earlier, but each can give some insight into the stirrings of those very depths.

The primary point of information exchange in the community bulletin board is the poster, it is thus an interaction between the individual putting up the poster and the wider community (specifically those who pass by). What does this have to do with loneliness, you might be asking yourself? Well, consider the way we use posters to communicate. You might find an offer from a babysitter for her services, an advertisement for an upcoming garage sale, or a notice for a nearby room for rent. This is a form of communication where the message is only particular to its creator, and its message is received ambiguously by an indeterminate person. If a person notices a poster declaring 4 puppies up for adoption, the person who pasted the poster will remain completely unaware, even if the person is indeed interested in the adoption. It is an impersonal method of communication, that much is obvious, it was never designed to be create personal connections to begin with. At the very most, it can lead to more spontaneous are personable communication should the relevant parties talk directly with one another.

You’ll soon see the significance of the impersonal nature of the bulletin board. Many thinkers have compared newer forms of communication to the democratization of traditional mass media (of the podium), but I would argue it’s quite the opposite. Traditional media’s power, or rather, the place of traditional media’s power, remains even in these new seemingly democratized forms: the result of corporate control and the pressing desire for commercialization and monetization. There are further natural barriers to broadcasting a message to millions of people and having them take notice, whether infrastructure, or credibility. Either way, the fact remains that your primary method of communication in the depths is not through a microphone, but through thumb-tacked posters, graffiti, and shouting from the window.

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>>9190584
But what of the stadium? Surely there is less loneliness in the presence of a crowd. I admit, there are many ways to not be lonely at a ball game, though, what we must be concerned with, are the numerous exceptions. Let us look at three possible scenarios of loneliness to grace the stadium: the non-fan, the fan among his ilk, and the fan in isolation. The non-fan, brought to the stadium by some contrivance, is immediately alone. His discussion of the spectacle is half-hearted. When it is rained out, and he is surrounded on all sides by raw humanity next to the hotdog stand under the concrete superstructure, he stays silent and only broaches small talk when another presses for it. The fan surrounded by his fellow fans can indeed satisfy loneliness, to the extent he desires such connections based on unity and furor. I am not here to trivialize those desires, but humans, as a totality, are much more than those desires, and it's certainly conceivable that they do not desire that in the stadium, despite being a fan of the team. His situation is like that of a man after a Thanksgiving feast, stomach full and being offered one more slice of Pecan pie. He can remember his desire for it, and may even reach for it out of habit, but it is not what he craves at that moment. No, he too can be alienated from those around him, and suddenly alone in the sea of lit up eyes. Furthermore, I think we can all agree, the fan in solitude is equally susceptible to such sentiments, whether it be because the stadium is sparse, or populated by hostile forces.

It should be clear that loneliness is something that can occur regardless the amount of people in the immediate proximity to the lonely soul. In terms of the depths, this means that no matter how many people have sunken to such levels, and how many messages are cried out into the dark, they will not necessarily decrease the amount of loneliness. No, sticking a bunch of lonely people together is no solution to loneliness if the content of their communication is one that doesn’t address their problem.

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>>9190590
The Cafeteria is an especially interesting case study, for it is there that we look at the issue of being observed in public on loneliness. Here, the lonely soul is surrounded by a cohort, that is a group of people they will interact with or see on a regular basis. If they do not talk with other members of their cohort, we can assume they will feel rather alienated in this situation unless that have a rather rare inner contentedness. But the situation gets more interesting when we look at the talkers, and, at the most extreme, the gossipers. They’ll converse, going from topic to topic, about trivial, odd matters, often about other people and issues relating to their cohort. Here is where the problem presents itself, what would a self-conscious individual do if this was their dominant form of communications with others? They would resist sincere confessions and expressions of their true desires, for fear of these things being shared with those without sympathy for them. This situations breeds shallowness for the few who live within the scope of this form of communication, and mistake it for the reality of their cohort, but most people, who know that the situation masks the complexity of the human soul, are left feeling they have no one to reveal themselves to, isolated form the world around them.

Now, to clarify, what is and what is not acceptable in a given forum with similar dynamics to the Cafeteria is in constant flux. Some such cohorts may have a prudish attitude, others, a lewd one, with the amount of either attitude changing over time. Breaking conversational taboos doesn’t change the relationship of the lonely soul to the public cohort. Sexuality is a great example, imagine a cohort of perverts who dine with one another every evening, they discuss many scatalogical subjects, and it appears as though nothing is off limits. However, what happens if you try to broach the subject of one’s feelings of isolation and desire for common affection? They will be derided for ruining everybody’s fun or completely ignored. Indeed, communication within such a self aware cohort can never deal with a problem of authentic loneliness.

>>9190412
Times change. No twenty year old has shit to say anymore worth listening to.

>>9190414

Yeah.

A hundred years ago, a 20 year old had probably watched his alcoholic dad almost kill his mother, 4 of his siblings die from fever, had fought in at least one way, and had two girlfriends die from a cold.

They tended to have a lot to say about that.

>>9190423
I grew up in the suburbs, safe as can be. Haven't experienced anything challenging, let alone death. Lacrosse was tough tho.

Why can't I write

sure, post it.

>>9190369
That was it, in the OP.

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>>9190366

it's fucking perfect.

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Just accept his superiority, senpai. He's a published author despite being depressed and psychotic. What are you, OP? A /lit/izen. Lowest of the low.

>Have you guys ever been so disappointed with an author?

No, I love everyone I read.

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>>9190003
>Defends Christianity

It shows how cancerous New Atheism is that a philosophic reading of the Bible now counts as a "Defense"

That's just Hegel's Christianism desu.

Did Shakespeare even intend for the character to be black, or is that something white guilt attributes to the text? Like does Shakespeare even suggest that Othello is a black man? Like where does he even say it besides cover art and shit.

>>9189944
Eh yeah, that was kind of the point

>>9189951
He's explicitly called and referred to as a moor.