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hello
i've always been pretty bad at writing poetry, and i don't mean that in a bashful way, i am certain my writing is objectively bad. i want to improve but i've never taken creative writing (or at least i wasn't taking it seriously enough when i was) and i was wondering if there are any communities or ways i could get mentored online. of course i know there are countless poetry and creative writing forums (which i will default to when this post doesn't get replied to) but if there is anything even slightly more personal or one on one i would love to hear about it.
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>>9297646
Really cool picture

Also, read this
I'm not the type of person to look for a mentor so I don't know that feel, but it's not beneficial look on the internet for personal help / advice about anything important imo.

Just read tons of poetry and it'll rub off on you
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>>9297659
>read tons of poetry
Most important advice
Also don't worry too much about how objectively good your poetry is, just try to accomplish what you want to

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Can someone explain the Faulkner meme to me? It's gotten trite rather quick. Are you guys being ironic or something?
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>>9297582
Nigger wtf are you talking about
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>>9297582
i've read Light in August, As I Lay Dying, Absalom, Absalom and The Sound and the Fury, and i would say Light in August reads most like his mission statement. if you havent read that you should
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>>9297582
i started reading The Sound and the Fury but i have absolutely no idea what the fuck is going on and i'm ~50 pages in

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'Books You Loved As a Child'
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>>9297544
2/10
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>>9297564
What are your favorite titles then? You know, so I know you know what you're knowing about.
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>>9297544
>my horror novel title

Just call it horrible.

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Is this worth reading?
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>>9297405
Why not? Give it a shot op. Better get a good translation though.
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Absolutely.
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Beautiful book, especially poignant if you can personally relate to it

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how the FUCK do you pace the plot of a story you're writing
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>>9297403
Owned dumb frogposter
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>>9297403
Google "Dan Harmon story circle."
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>>9297403
Revise it until it feels right

Why is fascist literature so widely discarded?
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>>9297393
Have you ever read any?
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ideology
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>>9297393
By whom? Why do you care?

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https://youtu.be/MDEIuvxhvKI?t=3m48s

How will Sartra ever recover?
>taking le frog man seriously
>listening to rap
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>>9297297
HURR DURE NIETZCHE'S WORKS ARE WRONG BECAUSE OF HIS MENTAL PROBLEMS

Not even a Nietzche fan but can this meme end
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>>9297297
I love Chase's sense of humor
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>>9297297
Meadow a cute. Forever and ever.

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So does this mean this book was printed in 1910?
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>>9297281
yes you dumb cunt
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>>9297285
Neat
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No, it was printed in 1895, they were just clairvoyant.

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Are "A Writer on Writing" books useful for learning to write well?

Books like King's "On Writing" and Atwood's "Negotiating with the Dead"

Are they only useful for people looking into those writer's styles or could another writer learn tips and tricks from these?
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Couldn't be less useful than reading this board.
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>>9297212
Ive always heard good things about on writing specifically
But i think the genre itself is to be avoided
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King "On Writing" is like McDonald's on gastronomy.

If you want to write pop shlock slop, go ahead.

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Does reading too much cause you to feel detached from reality? This semester I have read and studied a combined 50-60 hours a week and I barely feel grounded in reality at this point. Considering I spend more time in my mind and thinking about abstract concepts than in reality socializing or working, it makes sense.

When I leave my house I feel ethereal, and almost like I am outward looking in through a glass. I am wondering if there could be any permanent deleterious effects of hermetic studying. I basically feel high every day.
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sounds pretty cool
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>>9297194
Where can I get some of what you are reading?
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>>9297194
I mean, I'm highly depersonalized like 95% of the time and it sounds like you are too. Reading probably (?) doesn't have that much to do with it, but yeah, it's kind of disorienting. Pretty well established mental state: don't know of any solid steps to bridge the gap w/ reality, but what I do is just act out emotions as if they're real and that seems to convince others and myself (occasionally) that I'm a real person.

Scariest thing about it is surfacing from wherever the fuck your head is at to something like presence when you're behind the wheel of an automobile, screaming down the highway, doing eighty in heavy traffic with several human beings in the vehicle with you.

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Has anybody read this? What does /lit/ think of this novel. Is it more relevant as time progresses?
Also, any recommendations are highly appreciated.
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it's very cartoon-y.
It's okay. Entertaining but maybe a little aimless.
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>>9297165
See I found it cartoon-y in a good way. Kind of like a sitcom with a crumbling society as the foreground. A wholesome downward spiral of existence.
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One of the comfiest books I've ever read. The toxic waste incident and every passage describing Babette feels like Delillo tapped into the common human mind and produced pure experience. I've felt the same with other novels he's written; they'll just be meandering along, not particularly great or anything, but then he just manages to pull the most incredible prose ever seen in American fiction out of his ass and put it on the page.

Definitely a writer with flashes of extreme brilliance

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How do I take inspiration without plagiarizing?
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>>9297154
understand the general concept and forget about the word for word generalizations of the source material
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honest answer: i think a lot of it is re-reading and doing impressions. Combine various complimentary impressions to disguise the issue.
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>>9297154
by keeping quiet about your inspirations

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>"tee hee, can you guess the secret riddles I put in my story? You might have to reread it 5 times hahaha."
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>"tee hee, I use an old thesaurus to name common stuff, enjoy looking up their definitions for no reason whatsoever hahaha. no excuse me while I don my dolman"
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Delete this thread you shitter, NOW
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>>9297140
I think I get it. The Fifth Head of Cerberus was about Hegelian dialectics, right?

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>best English writer
>he's American
What did Anglos mean by this?
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>Moby Dick
>Ulysses

If you had to erase one of these two books from existence, which one would you choose?
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>>9297134
Moby-Dick.

The Irish would be monumentally hurt by the loss of Ulysses. But we Americans could endure the loss of Moby-Dick. We would simply replace it with one of our other Great American Novels.
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>>9297134
Moby Dick.

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Can we get a hidden agenda in pop-culture thread going?
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I had a professor talk about the reason most advertisements include sexy/attractive people is not just because humans are sexual creatures and we will associate the product with sexual pleasure, but more importantly they do it to force you to contrast with yourself in order to hammer it into your head that you aren't attractive, you don't have perfect teeth and hair, you don't have a perfect family etc in order to make you feel like shit. And when people feel like shit about themselves they want to do whatever it takes to feel better, and buying things makes you feel good.


Also, check out this article:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/mediatechnologyandtelecoms/9191107/Think-Tank-Its-the-subconscious-that-makes-ads-work.html

the worst part is that this article and all the books I've been trying to find about the use of the subconscious in advertising were all made to try to train advertisers to be better manipulators and not how to defend yourself from advertising.

Advertisers truly are scum.
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Damn, this is a hard one.

I tried to look for a pick of Big Bang Theory using biodegradable cleaning products/ bringing them home from the grocery store but I couldn't find anything on google.

This does have a lot of potential. People who care like to sneak stuff into the background for the smart and the deep audience members.

This would be a great new 4chan thing.
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>>9297083

I walked into my two family members watching "iron fist" fist on Netflix. It's one of the superhero TV shows that claim to have adult themes. The general plot and the level of acting in the show felt like an episode of the power rangers except it was interspersed with genuinely unsettling violence. A character got beat to death with ice-cream scoop being bloodily battered into the back of his head. Yet the show still has this cartoon like quality to the plot and character design.

Another thing I noticed is that all the actors are supremely fit. They were clothes that accentuate biceps, back muscles and arse cheeks (same thing for the women). This blatant soft porn approach seems to have found its way into contemporary soap operas too. Eastenders is a good example.

I dunno maybe I'm just prematurely turning into an old man, but something is seriously up with the media these days.. The marvel shit on Netflix anyway. It's ducking dehumanising. Can't wait for Cape movies to crash and burn. It's infantalising our culture

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