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>>9405005
"a joke that overstays its welcome"

Wallace-recommending men are ubiquitous enough to be their own in-joke. New York Magazine notes that “Wallace, too, has become lit-bro shorthand…some women [treat] ‘loves DFW’ as synonymous with ‘is one of those motherfuckers’” (hi, it’s me). When conservative Supreme Court nominee Neil Gorsuch cited Wallace in a hearing, The New Republic asserted that “Wallace is the lingua franca of a certain subset of overeducated, usually wealthy, extremely self-serious (mostly) men.” Onion-esque news outlet Reductress clickbaited me perfectly with “Why I’m Waiting for The Right Man to Tell Me I Should Read ‘Infinite Jest.’” Wallace is on a list of books that literally all white men own.

Joking about this phenomenon, however, doesn’t make it stop.

Small, liberal arts colleges are spawning ground for Wallace fans; mine was no exception. The guys at my college—and this is not necessarily an attack on their characters—did many predictable things: played ultimate frisbee, rallied against multinational beverage corporations, listened to The Mountain Goats, and told me to read Infinite Jest.

I opened this essay with the cocaine story because exploiting my own physical experiences, especially sexual, establishes and theoretically validates my reflexive resentment toward Wallace (by way of his fans) before anyone has time to question me. It also encourages continued scrolling. Then I considered cutting the paragraph because I don’t necessarily want the internet to know that story. Now it does. Yet in either case, the choice was mine to make, and this is, of course, why it enrages me so much when men exploit women’s sexual suffering for Art.

It is enraging to have a straight man tell me a story about straight men telling stories to a woman about straight men acting like shitheads. I understand that this is the point of the text. I know. I understand that maybe other men wouldn’t absorb the message unless it was being told to them by another, probably smarter and better educated man. But then why do men keep recommending his work to me? BECAUSE I KNOW I KNOW I KNOW I KNOW I KNOW I KNOW I KNOW I KNOW I KNOW.

>>9404982
Speaking sounds more formal.

"I was speaking to Jim about last month's revenue."

Talking sounds more casual.

"I was talking to Jim at lunch about baseball."

>>9404982
Obviously. Speaking is one way directed, talking implies an exchange of language.

>>9404990
>>9404992
What if i want to suggest one way communication of an informal nature?

>>9404969
Writers drink a lot because they sit around all day stressing themselves out with trying to find the write words.

Having a drink relaxes them while also putting them in a good man.

Alcohol is the white man's burden.

>>9404969
No. Dreaming. Fuck me I dreamt once a long story and forgot it.

I am so pissed.

But it's true though, most stories come from dreams whether drugs or certain other things help make you think of things

>>9404969
It helps you not write, which is extremely important to writing. You have to take time to refill the tank.

>>9404857
Probably. Just write something actually good and then shame those who let you off easy.

>>9404857
luck and timing play in to being successful. right now it's trendy to be non-white and female. this is your chance. dont fuck it up.

>>9404869
but the thing is that im young and have no previous works idk

>>9404853
I chukled at the picture.

I wish it worked, OP. I've been constipated for 3 days now and my ass hurts.

>>9404997
One time, I got so constipated, I panicked. More than that, I'd read the Ito story where the people got so constipated they used dynamite to blow their assholes out. so I used my finger to pry the poop out The relief was immeasurable.

My ENG 102 instructor always called my writing out as very creative or thoughtful, but I think it's because I never talked and she felt bad for me.

>>9404844
Fuck off John Green

>>9404844
So do you speak Greek or Mandarin at home in Russia? Since you can't speak Russian fluently. Or, can't count, even to numbers most styles suggest one should spell the numbers out.

You need to aim higher troll. The five languages you claim to speak are pretty normie for anyone who went/goes/sends/sent their kids to an "elite" school as they like to call themselves. As a European, I think, just five when two are dead? That's non-fee paying school tier.

>when even OP's wildest dreams are so banal they're in easy reach of a seven year old child

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My library is very nice. I just wish it would open again...

Also, you are just cherry-picking. I bet those are not all the philosophy books they have there.

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>Mia Dolan - Haunted Homes
Now that's what I call philosophy.

>>9404812
Not at all.

>>9404790
Pride and Prejudice
2666

>>9404795
do you expect me to believe there's fucking in Pride and Prejudice
I'll look into 2666, one of the /lit/cores I've missed

the Song of Solomon

>>9404772
Thanks for killing a thread about books.

>>9404780
If you want to make this thread about a possible, Literature Club, I am okay with it. I can provide a living room for a Literature Club in Brighton too.

I don't think that organising a regular in person book or film club over 4chan is a realistic aim.

What about the decision to make a decision

>>9404764


What's the difference between a decision and a choice?

I'd say a choice is more abstract, where a decision is the "choosing", aka when the choice is made.

>>9404764


You can choose but you can't decide to choose.

>asking for our best prose
Nietzsche's a god tier prose stylist, go read him.

DUDE SUPERMAN LMAO

>>9404704
I'm currently more interested in what are your interpretations of his books (but only if they're written in perfect prose!).

>>9404641
>1933

Up to that point Mussolini was not even involved in colonial wars: he was just a traditional, nationalist dude who also happened to be a bastion against all those currents that were seen as "corrupting" by Freud.

I'm sure that he changed his mind when Benito started killing random Ethiopians with mustard gas.

>>9404679
They deserved it tho.

>>9404904
Not really, they were in the League of Nations, and virtually every European country decried the Italian-Ethiopian war as an atrocity.

>>9404612
nice insights thanks for sharing

I kind-of got stuck with the prose and dropped it about a 100 pages in. I did find some moments emotionally gripping, but it just seemed fairly aimless.

>>9404612
Coming of age novels suck. Idgaf about some spoilt fucks awkwardness around girls

Not only did Adorno write all of the Beatles' songs, he's also responsible for the Scaruffi pasta.

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>>9404526
My "shit"-posting days are over /lit/.

I've spent too much time, expended too much energy, wasted too much potential posting countless "shit"-posts on this board. The (you)s no longer cut it, the brief jolt of contentment knowing I've hit another ball out of the figurative park is no longer worth it. I've been banned at least 50 times from /lit/ along in the past three years.

In that time my mental health has deteriorated to the point where suicide is no longer just a potential but unlikely reaction to a world in which I do not fit but a very likely conclusion to what should not really qualify as a life. My being itself has fractured into a Pessoan crowd of misfits and idiots (all me) who have plagued this board for too long now.

I am NOT a Husserl scholar working at a Wendy's in Louisiana and playing Pharoah (1999) in his spare time.

I am NOT a hard-up writer whose mommy bought three copies of his novel about a leper's colony and published by a small-time scam artist.

I am NOT a 19-year-old who will live a good life at your expense.

I am NOT a 26-year-old NEET writing his million-plus word debut six-part memoir on a computer at the local public library.

I am NOT an Oxford graduate who literally can't express how much an Oxbridge education has benefited my life.

I am NOT a world-traveler and soon-to-be MFA student with a USB of short stories dangling from his keychain.

I am NOT a Norwegian aspiring author spending a year in his grandparents' cabin while writing his soon-to-be published debut novel.

I am NOT a young man living in New York and living a lifestyle that could not get any more contemporary.

My name is Theodor Ludwig Wiesengrund, and this is my story...

>>9404526
I don't know why Scaruffi gets so much shit because of his analysis of the Beatles. I think it was really good and lucid. He even respects their music for what it is.

>>9404501
I dunno, ask the phroneises

>>9404501
His ethnics are nonsense

>>9404515
not an argument