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>when I was eighteen, I got a summer job as a playground attendant—a parkie. And I was told to wear a white T-shirt and brown pants and brown shoes and a whistle around my neck—which they provided, the whistle. But I never acquired the rest of the outfit. I wore blue jeans and checkered shirts and kept the whistle in my pocket and just sat on a park bench disguised as an ordinary citizen. And this is where I read Faulkner, As I Lay Dying and Light in August. And got paid for it. And then James Joyce, and it was through Joyce that I learned to see something in language that carried a radiance, something that made me feel the beauty and fervor of words, the sense that a word has a life and a history. And I’d look at a sentence in Ulysses or in Moby-Dick or in Hemingway—maybe I hadn’t gotten to Ulysses at that point, it was Portrait of the Artist—but certainly Hemingway and the water that was clear and swiftly moving and the way the troops went marching down the road and raised dust that powdered the leaves of the trees. All this in a playground in the Bronx.
How the FUCK can I get a gig like this?
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That story about Dellilo is always my go-to thought when I think how different it must have been holding down a job while writing/reading in the old days compared to now. Literally no job is this cushy unless your daddy owns the company. I worked at an independent cinema for a while and would have times where I'd just sit for an hour twiddling my thumbs - no books allowed though.
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From hearsay, night security at a warehouse/office/mall seems to have a lot of sitting down time - just doing a round of the premises every hour or so.
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>>9471211
nightjob at hotel or similar.
Almost no guest (intereferance) and you can do what you what really and will get paied.
As long as you are okay changing your live to be a night person.
I did this for a semester break job once and it actually was enjoyable.
Free newspapers. I was allowed to help myself a little from the bar and the kitchen. The guest who I deal with where always calm since they were tired or funny and interesting because they were drunk.
Getting into and out of the rythem of being a wake all night and sleep during the day though was difficult.
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Any recommendations on this phenomenon? Especially concerning the hipsters of today?
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Chasse, Robert, Bruce Elwell, Jonathon Horelick, and Tony Verlaan. “Faces of Recuperation” Situationist International 1 (1969): N.pag. Situationist International Online. Web. 13 Sept 2016.
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Those above might not relate enough. But these should:
Frank, Thomas. “Why Johnny Can’t Dissent.” Commodify Your Dissent: Salvos from The Baffler. Eds. Thomas Frank and Matt Weiland. New York: W.W Norton, 1997. Print.
Hebdige, Dick. Subculture: The Meaning of Style. 1979. London: Routledge 1987. Print.
Greenwall, John. “Capitalism and the Rise of Consumerism.” D!ssent 41 (2013): 39-43.
Adorno and Horkenheimer touch on related issues in The Dialectic of Enlightenment if I remember correctly.
You also might want to look at (but I'm not sure if they're going to help):
None specifically about hipsters of today, but it should all relate. The ethos of hipsterism isn't particularly new, it's just a reiteration of recurring commercial impulses.
Try:
Debord - Society of the Spectacle
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I fucked that post up by copy pasting.
I meant to say: You also might want to look at (but I'm not sure if they're going to help):
Debord - Society of the Spectacle
Look into the terms "recuperation" in the situationalist-marxist sense. "Co-optation" and "incorporation"
"Co-optation of subculture/counter culture" would be a particularly good search term.
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Why exactly and in what way is the modern educational system flawed, from primary school to university? Does it really kill creativity, or is that a liberal meme?
What would an ideal education be like?
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It's getting too soft and it's run by people who care more about their kid's 'feelings' than education.
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How is it flawed?
It inculcates skill and provides the necessary abilities to do jobs that serve society beneficially. Look at it from a utilitarian perspective. You need more doctors than painters, because artists don't cute diarrhoea.
In fact, the top schools around the world might actually help nourish creativity.
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Your own intuition brought you to a completely wrong conclusion. People who score high on creativity on inventories tend to do poorly in grade school and do poorly in universities if they are in non creative fields of study. Creative people are pushed into non creative fields of study because of your mentality of "you need more doctors than painters". I mean seriously how could you think the the grade school system, which was founded to train factory workers, or the university system, which was modeled on that same factory system, could possibly nourish creativity.
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Is this the definite endpoint of philosophy?
Did anyone ever manage to refute/improve on this?
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>NEETSHITfag
Grow up, stop being so edgy
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Look no further
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>brilliant scientist
>insightful philosopher
>scholarly theologian
>redpilled
>10/10 aesthetic
Is Ben Stiller the true ubermensch?
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RECOMMEND GREAT ESSAYISTS.
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I heard George Orwell was good at this thing you just mentioned.
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Seneca, Hazlitt, Schopenhauer, Wilde
Mencken, C. Hitchens
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Burke, de Maistre, Schopenhauer, Chesterton, Ludovici, Dalrymple, Sloterdijk,
t. Conservative
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A thread for people to ask for book recommendation, so that they don't have to make new threads.
I'm looking for writers similar to Walser and Nescio, and I'm also looking for books on wandering, forests, plants, birds, nature in general and so on.
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get x job
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haha ebin spam my friend
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>>9470677
walden
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>Mum comes into my room and starts perusing my bookshelves
>"Anon, what are these 'The Legacy of Totalitarianism in a Tundra' books? They sound interesting"
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Let her read it.
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He doesn't want to be found out as a middlebrow pleb
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>literary critic father finds your copy of The Legacy of Totalitarianism in a Tundra
>tfw he praises it as the first genuine masterpiece of the 21st century and is now teaching it in his uni classes
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What do you guys think of Dostoevsky's overall theme in his books that religion is useful to society as a means of social cohesion?
He lived as a christian his whole life, even though he most likely didn't believe in the literal word of the bible.
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>What do you guys think of Dostoevsky's overall theme in his books that religion is useful to society as a means of social cohesion?
It's really stupid and outdated even for his time.
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i think the cunt should have either been a philosopher or a playwright
i cannot stand moral lessons in literature
literature is an artform, not a teaching manual
disgusting
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When did you realize that Nietzsche's philosophy is just an expression of his own self-deluding megalomania and superiority complex?
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>>9470132
Right now
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Before I even read him.
Just now.
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>>9470132
>Comparing Nietzsche to Trump
Cool stupidity, bro.
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How many books of this man do you own?
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is this one of the beatles?
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>>9471566
He was in Led Zeppelin
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What are you currently reading /lit/? 2017-05-05 07:03:00 Post No.9468537
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What are you currently reading /lit/?
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>I showed you mine, now you show me yours.
Go go go!!
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Why do people read multiple books at the same time
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>>9468537
I'm a pleb
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>>9468849
this
why do people do this
i can only read a novel and then maybe a non-fiction on the side
Deskilling is a fucking disease. In cultural production today (Art, Design, Music etc..) the receiving public is fully willing to accept the deskilled object without question. People today make no attempt to see artistic production as a discipline (in the fullest form of it's meaning), rather artistic production becomes a game where by any criteria (or principle) applied to a work to critically assess it (determine to what degree it is "good") is dismissed as not essential to the work.
As a result people are making straight up garbage and try to pretend it's conceptual, because they have no skill and no discipline. They hide behind the notion that skill, technique, discipline and craft are passe and somehow unconceptual. Most art is produced in a critical vacuum, an environment free of criticism - your fellow artists don't know shit and wouldn't want to offend you anyway. Not only that, 99% of criticism in magazines/internet/literature is purely masturbatory, artists are marketed as saints. Real criticism is key to art, without calling a work into crisis art can't move forward. The response to criticism should be defensive, but not in words - defensive in action. Defensive by making another, greater work. This is why art is stagnant.
Don't go to art school.
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>>9468447
I find upper right appealing
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This is honest to god degenerate.
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>>9468454
That's because its style mimicks great works of the past with some accuracy.
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What book would someone read to be instant boyfriend material to you? Ulysses or 120 days of sodom.
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Anything from Saramago
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>>9467600
Steppenwolf for a boyfriend. Also House on the Borderlands to show he has a similar fun side as me.
Girlfriend, anything that isn't YAcough john green coughand also not exclusively feminist literature. If she read faulkner, that'd be pretty hot.
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Confessions of a mask, desu
Stories about Knights pls
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And castles too
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And fair maidens true
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>>9467208
how bout them arthurians
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>yfw you realize the most beautiful art is only borne from the greatest of struggles and you've never faced real hardship in your entire life
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So get out of your comfort zone and find struggles? Go be homeless. Backpack somewhere. Take a risk.
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>>9466066
Join the infantry, faggot.
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>when people who haven't experienced a lot of art have 'deep' thoughts about art