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How do I write high-concept stuff?

I keep trying to do genre fiction, but then I end up making everything super subtle. Paranormal stuff turns into Paradise Lost, fantasy settings become a really alienating constructed culture where nobody has morals or beliefs that play in Peoria, and I haven't attempted sci-fi yet but it will most likely be a complete subversion of everything the technological/social progress guys believe.

Basically, nothing I do is recognisable or marketable. I sound like I'm giving myself a back-handed compliment by saying I'm too original, but originality is individuality, and individuality is unrelatable and masturbatory. People want a mirror that shows them an appealing stranger doing things they wish they could do. They want that stranger to be as similar to them in outlook as possible.
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if your post is anything to go by you shouldn't be writing at all
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>>9473653
Do you mean low-concept stuff? Also, you sound pretentious.
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>>9473667
this

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>foreign book seems interesting
>all translations of it are unreadable
whats her name
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>>9473550
>translations
>readable
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>>9473550
>>9473594

the translation meme on /lit/ really needs to stop

it doesn't fucking matter what translation you read

if you actually read some of these books you'd be able to make an interesting thread
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>>9473599
t. proud monolingual and US citizen

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What are some reasonable books on feminism?

>inb4 there are none
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I've only just started reading it, but Handmaid's Tale
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>>9473499
Early feminist books, like Beauvoir for example.

The movement today is a parody of itselft, but the early movement has some solid points.
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>>9473512
>Essentialism has some solid points

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What does /lit/ think about the art that is isekai (light) novels?
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re zero? more like reddit zero lmao
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Just read real novels or manga or even VN.
LNs are just a shitty in between that doesn't do anything well, written by people who couldn't make it in a halfway respectable creative industry.
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I think when I go to Japan later this year I'm gonna write a light novel series and pay some Japanese dude to translate it and try to get it published.
Looking at the quality of the stuff that gets published it shouldn't be too hard I could write a series of light novels drunk, which is probably what I will do.

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I've been reading some classical texts recently, including ab urbe condita and some of Catullus' stuff. Any recommendations?
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>>9473480
Get some Greek stuff. I found Xenophons Anabasis to be great fun.
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>>9473480
Read Gellius.
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>>9473480
Golden ass. So fun

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Anons over 25, how do you deal with the fact that most well-known writers were published by your age?

How do you deal with the fact that most musicians had already made a name for themselves by your age?

How do you deal with the fact that most comedians, actors, painters, and other artists had made a name for themselves by your age?

Do you feel like you wasted your potential? Do you feel embarrassed for not having made something of yourself by now?

Do you feel mediocre? Delusional? Past it? Embarrassed?
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I smoke weed erryday
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>>9473419
it has never been easier to publish than it is right now


self publish on your blog if you're that desperate
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I don't worry about it because my shitty teenage years and early 20s were a path that brought me to where I am now, which is a place where I'm happy. And fame isn't important to me.

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[Spoiler] how and why the fuck does a three year old kid eat a turtle whole including the shell!? [/spoiler]
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>>9473363
Go to sleep Noah
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>>9473363
Wow spoilers much
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>>9473612
Let me guess, a kid in your class named Noah questioned that too when your teacher read that, right?

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Welp, just finished IJ.

What should I read next /lit/? Looking to dive back into classics, maybe Picture of Dorian Gray?
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kys
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>>9473360
That's fucking disgusting m8. Kill yourself next
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>>9473360
I moved on to Pynchon after reading IJ. If you have done that yet, I suggest you do so. If you liked Infinite Jest, see if you can find a copy of Women and Men at a reasonable price. Mcelroy clearly influenced Wallace. It's more difficult, though

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Why did Sinclair Lewis have a mediocre poet character and then a completely different character who happened to be named Vergil? It would be much more fitting and in-line with the book that Chum Frink would have been named after the roman poet, and it's such a distinct name that it seems like a deliberate choice
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>>9473320
Because it would be a little on the nose, don't you think?

Even with the irony of Frink being a bad poet, while being named after a great poet, to have a poet named Vergil would be too much i think
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I have nothing to contribute, I'm just glad to see lewisposting
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>>9473342
In that case why name a character Vergil at all? I didn't think it was a common name back then, especially using the original spelling

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I'm trying to observe Christianity but the problem is I slipped so far down into nihilism I was a utilitarian antinatalist. Since I don't even know what it means to value life I just find myself getting frustrated with the idea of going to hell and focusing on the negative aspects of the religion. Not to mention the idea of a hell makes me want to double down on the antinatalism. What do?
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Have faith, a human cannot find salvation by himself, so just give up and believe in god, he will provide for you.
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What's the antinatalist defense against suicide? Serious question, I know the position is memed to death but I've not read much into the subject and there seems to be an obvious hypocrisy to condemning propagation while maintaining one's own life.
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>utilitarian antinatalist
I suggest you stop being a fucking meme first.

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how much books did it take you to learn how to read literature in English without pausing every now and then to look up some words, fellow non-native English speakers? asking for a friend
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>>9473261
Just get an e-reader. You can look up any word instantly without having to stop reading.
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Even as a well-educated native English speaker I still semi-frequently have to look up words on my phone. There's no shame in it. It depends highly on the type of stuff you're reading too, the further back you go the more likely it is that you will need to look things up since the words used will have fallen out of the vernacular.
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Native English speaker here, but I will relate my experience in Spanish:

I can read modern day YA books and rarely have to look up any words. However, the further back I go in time (as >>9473311 said), the more I find myself struggling and not recognizing much. Something like Don Quijote or La Vida es Sueno will likely always be impossible for me.

If your goal is to read authors like Melville, Dickens, or Tolkien, you will have a very hard time, and since most practice you get with a language has colloquial applications in mind, you get modern readings.

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Stop using profanity
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>>9473234
Periods and please, please.
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>>9473234
fuck you
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>>9473234
Fuck no

i am really liking this book.
The only thing i don't understand is why are all women attracted to Yozo.
Is that some kind of curse like Takeichi told him?
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It's because women like men like that.
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>>9473210
He was just fucking handsome
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>>9473220
t. woahman

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Let's not argue over video games edition. Take that shit to /v/

Fantasy
Selected:
>http://i.imgur.com/pk3og4Y.jpg
General:
>https://i.imgur.com/igBYngL.jpg
Flowchart:
>https://i.imgur.com/uykqKJn.jpg

Science Fiction
Selected:
>https://i.imgur.com/A96mTQX.jpg
>https://i.imgur.com/IBs9KE8.jpg
General:
>https://i.imgur.com/r55ODlL.jpg
>https://i.imgur.com/gNTrDmc.jpg

NPR's Top 100 Science Fiction & Fantasy Books:
>https://i.imgur.com/IJxTQBL.jpg

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>>9473163

The argument actually started over table top RPGs
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>>9473175
Regardless it is unrelated to /lit/ and should be taken elsewhere. There were a few comments here and there about female authors but it eventually turned into /tg/ and /v/ ranting

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DFW is counterfeit middlebrow intellectualism
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>>9473105
you are simply memeing right
DFW is the #1 fav of roughly 40% of /lit/
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>>9473125
>counterfeit middlebrow intellectualism

Fairly apt.

I'd call him FUBU for lazy, white suburbanites with delusions of literary grandeur.

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