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What's the point of transitioning if you'll never pass?

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If you have no chance of passing at all, there's little point in socially transitioning, but I've heard HRT still helps with dysphoria even if you still live as a guy.
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>>5281271
>but I've heard HRT still helps with dysphoria even if you still live as a guy.

This senpai.
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>>5281271
Yeah, estrogen generally improves your mood a lot if you're trans, plus you can still enjoy the reduced body hair, softer skin, etc and look less manly, even if you still look like a man

desu though if I couldn't pass I'd just kill myself

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Who doesn't love to party?

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>>5279615
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Let's have a Christmas party!
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ive never been to a party. What are they like?
tips for a beginner?
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>>5280867
A good party is always fun ~
>>5280879
Will there be eggnog?

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Why won't cis guys date trans guys?
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>>5279458
They do though. Practically every trans guy I know personally is bi and currently in a relationship with a cis guy.
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>>5279468
So I'm just personally an ugly and unlovable human being?
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>>5279493
That's right. Sorry you had to hear it from us.

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I have been wearing my girlfriends underwear while she was out for a number of years now. Recently she found some of my photos on my computer, since then we have had a long talk about it and she is very understanding of the whole situation. I was wondering if anybody knows where I can buy some good mens lingerie?
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How long do you think it will be before she leaves you now?
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>>5279258
She isn't the kind of person to leave someone for something like that and is actually beginning to accept it in out sex life.
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>>5279278
She's just soft hearted and doesn't want to hurt you. In reality she's lost all of her respect for you as a man, and will eventually seek out another to fill that void you left

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Two medical doctors, a psychiatrist, my mother and grandmother, my manager, and the worker in human resources have all told me to seek therapy over the course past year. I don't really want to go because it is expensive, even with insurance, and frankly I don't trust therapists. I think they are boogeymen that are out there to reprogram people to their personal belief system. I see psychology as a pseudoscience. I don't enjoy anything anymore and I just sleep all the time. The psychiatrist just keep switching antidepressants and upping the dosage every time I see him. It keeps me stable so I can work, but I am still dead inside.

I thought /lgbt/ might have opinions on this subject. Has therapy helped you? Is it helping you? Or is it a massive waste of time and money?
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Hi, L of LGBT here. I've been seeking treatment for my type II Bipolar disorder for about 8 years now, and while professional therapy was mildly helpful, (a good therapist will guide you to reaching YOUR goals, not theirs), what I found infinitely more helpful was peer support. Support groups, recovery centers, etc. Talking to people that had been through similar things to what I'd been through and hearing what worked for them and how they coped was WAY more helpful to me than talking to someone that had just read about my issues in a textbook. Not to mention building a support network of understanding, non-judgmental people.

I found my local peer-to-peer wellness and recovery center 6 years ago. Before? Frequent hospitalizations. Now? I have friends that understand me, lowered med dosages, and in the past 2 years I've only had one major bipolar swing. I'm actually working there as a peer recovery specialist now. Not only have I found it more effective, but peer-to-peer stuff like support groups and recovery centers(at least here in Maryland) are usually free, unlike professional stuff.

Sorry about the wall of text, but I'm pretty passionate about the subject, ha.
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>>5275906

Thanks for the reply. I am not sure of any specific support group though as I don't have a lot of interests... I just sort of stay at home and don't enjoy anything.

Blah.
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I had/have your run of the mill major depression. Off and on on pills though my therapist knew my goals were to stay off completely.

It helped more cause she sort of pushed me and gave me techniques on dealing with shit. Paranoia, apathy, suicidal thoughts, anxiety, etc.

I think after almost 2 years I'm better than before. I got more athletic on her advice. Run often, less standing around thinking about suicide methods of gun v jumping v poison. It helps a lot. I can feel feeling now more. Shit's neat.

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http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/lgbtq-activists-call-zoolander-2-842548

>"This is the modern equivalent of using blackface to represent a minority."

>Following the release of its first full length trailer, Zoolander 2 is receiving pushback from LGBTQ activists.

>The controversy surrounds an androgynous supermodel played by British actor Benedict Cumberbatch, named All.

>In the trailer, Ben Stiller questions, "Are you like, a male model or a female model?" Owen Wilson’s character then asks the model, "Do you have a hot dog or a bun?"

>Activist Sarah Rose has started on online petition that has garnered more than 5,800 signatures.

>"Cumberbatch’s character is clearly portrayed as an over-the-top, cartoonish mockery of androgyne/trans/non-binary individuals," writes Rose. "This is the modern equivalent of using blackface to represent a minority."

So this thing perfectly represents trans people?
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Why do you faggots strive to portray yourself as perpetual victims constantly? All of this victim worship shit is going to burn out the capacity peoe have to feel empathy for you. You can only play the pity me card for so long before people are over it
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Trannies BTFO T B H F A M A L I A
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>>5268198
I don't understand how they could decide to have a cucumber play a androgynous super model.
Where is the logic behind it?

Get an actual androgynous person, or just a woman who can easily look androgynous.

>>5268254
underage

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Why do people shitpost trans here when it just reinforces the victim narrative that they think exists?
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Why do people shitpost trans when it just reinforces the victim narrative that they think exists?
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Don't look at the screen if you feel as if what you are reading is making you into a victim
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I don't know anything about a 'victim narrative', but looking at the structure of your sentence and basic semantics, it seems probable that you're mixing up cause and effect. Turning the sentence around to resolve this and answer your question yields:
Because the 'victim narrative' exists, people shitpost trans here.

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Say you went up to a straight male and you asked him out, but he asked for your positives compared to a "real woman", and would be willing to date you if you could answer him honestly.

Cause I'm having trouble trying to think of ANY positives. Dating a real woman has many benefits to the man in question that you could sort of apply to an M2F as well, but here are your negatives compared to a real woman:

-Can't rear children and continue his genetic line. Being with you is a dead end. (And saying "not all men want kids" is a pussy way out of answering this. Why wouldn't these same men get themselves clipped and then be with a regular woman?)
-He risks injury and death if anybody finds out he's dating a transgender
-Even if that doesn't happen, it will most likely hurt his lively hood and friendships
-The most sinister one: MTF transgenders have high rates of STDs; and what if you weren't faithful? You could give him AIDS.

So please, try to think of anything that could compensate the last three. Are you made of solid gold that would be worth abandoning friends for? What makes you so special that he coiuldn't get with any thousand other cis women?
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>>5273986
I don't think dating should be about "comparing advantages", that makes it seem too cold and impersonal. If a guy likes someone who happens to be a tranny, and they're willing to deal with that, fine. You shouldn't have to prove your objectively better than anyone else to be able to date some one, many people, not just trannies, would be failures by that criteria. It should really be about liking someone and being romantically compatible.

Also:
http://archive.loveisover.me/lgbt/search/subject/entitled/type/op/
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>>5273986
Stale pasta is stale.
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I date transwomen out of charity tbqh

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>Q

This kills the cause.
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you mean
>T
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>>5273904
>>5273907
>B
This is the main issue qh
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>>5273907
GLB master race

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Disclaimer: I suck at greentexting. This is going to be insanely long. Someone asked me to write this. Please put up with it.

The beginning

> 16 years and 11 months old, in June, quite depressed due to the waiting list for the gender clinic and not knowing what to do
> Talk to online friend N about being confused gender-wise, feeling like I want to be a girl but like transitioning is impossible
> N introduces me to E, who was a girl I had known who turned out to be a transgirl who is still questioning everything and struggling a lot up to this day
> E encourages me to try using female personas online
> Do that and some absent-minded kid I don't know calls me "sir" despite my female avatar, probably not used to seeing female gamers
> I say "*ma'am", just experimenting
> Random other player (let's call him B) says "WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK. YOU'RE KIDDING, RIGHT?"
> I'm confused and ignore it, then he says he's talking to me.
> He starts questioning me and says I'm a man and I politely try to explain why I corrected the person, and that I'm experimenting with my gender.
> Turns out he mistook me for his friend D, who I was good friends with for a while two years before that, then says D said a lot about me.
> Since he's a friend of a friend, and I found his strange bashful nature to be fascinating, I added him to Skype where I explain my gender and sexuality more, just wanting to talk about it to someone, and he makes some bashful jokes.
> Because he's so bashful, I took everything he said with a large bag of salt, and it became funny and it was fun to talk to him.
> Then before I went to sleep, he stopped me and told me he hated transsexuals with a passion but that I seemed like a cool person, so he asked me what I preferred to be called.
> I thought for a while and said that I was still kind of unsure, but felt like I preferred female pronouns and such.

To be continued
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Continuation

> The next few days we have dialogues about what it means to be male or to be female.
> I try to explain my desire to be female to him
> He can relate to it but only because he thinks women have better orgasms, and I just laugh it off as him being a pervert.
> I explain to him that I feel kind of weird because I'm so open with him despite the fact he gives off really shady vibes.
> He responds with things that make me feel like I'm just being paranoid and imagining it.
> Subconsciously wanting to verify whether or not he is dangerous, I end up telling him my entire life story.
> He responds positively and understandingly and says some clever and balanced things, unlike his usual bashful self, and I begin to really trust him.
> He also summarizes his own youth, and claims to have been the horniest teenage boy he's even known.
> I ask if this is not perhaps an exaggeration, but he says it's not, but I'm not really sure what to imagine.
> We don't really talk much for a week.
> Having told so much I don't really know what to talk about anymore so I kind of stop talking so much with him and only respond out of courtesy.
> Eventually, after about a month or so, he calls me out on this and I apologize for it and explain that I feel like there's not much to be talked about.
> He somehow gets me to talk more again.

To be continued
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Continuation

> Because he's so rude and perverted unlike other people I associated with, I felt like he was the only one I could talk about sexual interests and such with.
> We end up having fun discussions about stuff like erotic video games, relating about things that arouse us.
> Aside from sexual stuff we also talk about more mundane things, and I just talk about my day-to-day life as well.
> He never really says a lot about himself, but since he does always respond with as much words as I write myself, it doesn't bother me.
> Randomly, he mentions that I had mentioned a while back that I use SSRIs as anti-anxiety/anti-depression medication, and he warns me about chemical lobotomy.
> Even though looking back I wasn't suffering from that at all (I had only been taking them for 6 months, and it was a low dose), I got really paranoid about it and ended up stopping taking them the next day.
> He expresses worry about this, but I explain that I had been feeling kind of lost lately, not knowing who I was or understanding my feelings or actions at all, and that I associated that with the medication.
> (This was actually a misunderstanding on my part; my identity used to be "I fear everything", and taking the medication merely removed a bit of that fear, leaving a huge hole where my identity once was.)
> The next day, D contacts me, saying he heard I like anime, recommending 4chan.org/a/ to me.
> I check it out but find it kind of boring and find the interface confusing but decide to look at a bunch of other boards on 4chan.
> Withdrawal depression from lack of SSRIs starts kicking in.
> Somehow I sink right to /r9k/.

To be continued
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Continuation

> I notice all the posts there are eerily very depressing yet somehow very relatable.
> I ask D what the topic of /r9k/ is and he says it's nothing in particular and just like the rest of 4chan so I stay there trying to figure it out.
> I see a thread where a bunch of perverts fantasize about locking 'anxious NEET girls' up in their homes and taking care of them and having them keep them company.
> I feel strangely fascinated.
> Reading the thread, there's also some transgirl on hormones showing off her body asking if she'd suffice too.
> I feel rather strange and uncomfortable.
> The next night I have trouble sleeping, wondering why I even do my best at education and strive for university, and why I don't just try to find some gentle master and give away all my freedom and everything that makes me myself to live a much easier life with endless games and no responsibilities other than sexual favours.
> I feel disgusted by myself.
> I tell B about it and he points out I'd have to be rather good at sex for that, and argues that I'm not a girl.
> I explain that I got these weird ideas from /r9k/ and he tells me that it's a horrible place and that I shouldn't go there.
> His words make me feel safe and protected and I stay away from /r9k/, and instead talk to him about any depressing thoughts I have that week (still getting used to the lack of anti-anxiety/anti-depression medication).
> As I recover from stopping the medication, I kind of start to withdraw from everyone and everything.

To be continued

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stale bread >>5279334
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>>5280803
>went fulltime fem at 9 weeks of mones
filthy intersex easy mode passer get out!
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20s as fuck.
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I feel like I don't understand how to girl. I feel so stupid anytime I do anything and I just mess it up. I don't even know how to present myself or basic beauty care.

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Is it possible for a yandere to be gay? I found the site yandere.org but I'm not sure if I should join because I'm afraid no one there would be gay.

Anyone else with obsessive tendencies here?
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Yes they do exist, they are called codependent psychopaths and they're not like in your Japanese cartoons
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>>5278505
Reminder that real life is not anime
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>>5278624
based anon is real af

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Are there any other femanon 'chasers' that are attracted to mtfs but hate online mtf 'culture' (especially the mtfs on this board)?

Not looking for replies from transgirls
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Culture?
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>>5278333
>Not looking for replies from transgirls
here is your reply
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>>5278333
You're probably a degenerate lesbian feminist.

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Why do all mtf trannies want to have red hair and like purple or pink, big glasses?
Or more precisely, why do so many obnoxious, loud and toxic sjw transgender and allies fetishize this look?

Claire in OC is like this, and also this new Jessica U Manix Pixie webcomic stuff. Why is this so?

Are the loudest mtfs all agps? Thinking that being trans or female means buying clothes, looks and such?
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>>5255562
Not wanting to sex a penis is transphobia or whatever now.
God damn people can be attracted to whatever they fucking want, isn't that one of the main selling points of this whole lgbtquiop-now I know my ABCs movement?
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not sure what this comic is supposed to represent but i actually do see this alot in the feminst communities. they are dismissive or hateful of transwomen but love transmen and even invite them into women only spaces. It kinda comes down to yeah they dont see either as the gender the want to be seen as.

as for your thing, its kinda just an outcast thing, personally i do have a thing for the mousey nerdy girl but most of these people just want to look maybe because they want to look smart. as for me i genuinely have the outcast smart girl look because its who i actually am not just pretending to be to be cool in the counter culture society which is what many of these trans and cis women are doing
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Is that FTM strawman saying that being trans makes him not a man?
>I'm not into guys
>well you're in luck because I'm not one

This thread is a place to chat for people who pass. I noticed that a lot of women who post in the trans generals don't want to talk about things like early HRT, hair removal, or getting harassed by people for being a disgusting hon. This gen is for us; talk about normal girl problems, or what it's like to be stealth. Or whatever.
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>>5246478
But you don't pass anon.
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Passers get out
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>>5246478
Shitty thread idea desu

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