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So I used to think nonbianary people were obnoxious special snowflakes that just crated unnecessary drama in the struggle of lgbt rights over weird prnoun shit, but recently I met this really great girl (they? Really great they I guess) and over the past six months has proven herself to be a truly trustworthy, wonderful person. She's not crying oppression about being nb, she's rather quiet about it.
But on the other hand I do believe in binary gender. I've experienced some really rough homophobia over my life, and I feel like their 'struggle' undermines the hard work of homosexuals and transsexuals to be accepted as simply normal individuals in society.
Idk, one part of me thinks I'm right, the other thinks I'm ignorant. What do you folks think?
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>>6258854
Non binary is a political movement. Falling in love means abandoning your critical faculties.
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>>6258854
I don't think it undermines gay rights or the gay struggle, unless they're arguing that not being ~understood~ as a pangender/agender/genderqueer is equivalent to how much gay people have been shit on throughout history.

But I do think people who take it too seriously and believe you can actually change gender or be both genders at the same time sometimes try to undermine homosexuality by trying to tell me, for example, that if I'm attracted to a biological woman who looks like a biological woman but ~identifies~ as a man, that this means I'm not a lesbian. When you're getting to the point of biology denialism, you can't be taken seriously as a movement.
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>>6258935
If you're attracted to a biological man that looks like a biological woman that identifies as a biological man then you're lesbian. True enough.

But if you're attracted to a biological woman that looks like a biological man that identifies as a biological woman. Then maybe you're a circumsexual queer.

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Daily reminder that "hon" is a transphobic slur
>/lgbt/ will argue that transphobia is good for society
>/lgbt/ will argue transphobia is good for transgender people
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>>6258208
Transmysoginistic, to be precise, as it precisely intersects a rejection of the authenticity of trans identities, and a valuation of female worth reduced to her appearance.

And it will be defended because, as a minority group faced with extreme social stigma, many of our members will seek to redirect majority intolerance at an even more vulnerable, visible, and easily dehumanized group.
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shut the fuck up you manly as fuck unpassing hon
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>>6258208
t. hon

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>when you start playing 'would this person pass or be a complete hon' while looking at people in public
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>>6258188
It's not a game assman
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>>6258188
It says more about you than it says about them.
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>>6258210
>>6258226

Touchy touchy.

>it says more about you than it says about them

Playing a silly mindgame doesn't make me pass less, so whatever, it's a non-issue. It also doesn't make me mean, since I'm not actually letting anyone know what I think.

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Who'd win in a fight:

30 mtfs versus 30 ftms.
Fully transitioned.
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>>6256186
Depends if the mtfs are transbians or not. Transbians don't take moans, because they need to reserve their upper body strength in order to rape cis lesbians. 30 transbians would crush 30 aidens tbqh
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>>6256196
>aidens
is aiden pre-T or something because skylar got jacked.
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>>6256186
I saw a mtf do armwrestling with a ftm

The ftm won pretty easily

But they both transitioned under 20

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this time for real

Femgen FAQ:
▶What is a fem guy?
A young, androgynous guy with soft features. Mostly gay, but not all.
▶Are fem guys trans?
Some inevitably turn out trans. Some age into twunkhood and continue slutting it up on Grindr well past their mid twenties.
▶Can I be a fem guy?
Often with enough effort, yes. Masculine bone structure, height, and aging make it hard.
▶Should I go on HRT?
If you can deal with the tits and infertility, you'll look younger longer and you won't age like a man.
▶Is liking fem guys considered gay or straight?
Gay. If you're on the fence, you're bi, like a lot of people.
▶Skincare resources: https://www.reddit.com/r/SkincareAddiction/wiki/index
▶Hair care resources: https://www.reddit.com/r/haircarescience/wiki/index and /r/FancyFollicles
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Old Thread: >>6230626
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>>6252068
First for eunuch masterrace.
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1st for butt-blasted mods
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>>6252080
h-have... a-are... you?

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(1/2)
>be me
>be a beta chaser who has never actually chased before because i always felt bad about it
>decide it's time to give it a shot
>find a tranny on OKC
>she was looking for a relationship but convince her to do a FWB type thing
>id go over to her studio apartment, fuck her, then play some video games, then leave
>she starts wanting to go out on a date or do something outside
>i keep putting it off because i dont want to be seen with her
>eventually she kind of forces my hand, either i take her out or she stops fucking me
>i figure there isn't much harm in being seen in public with her since it's not like anyone will know who i am (she lived a couple cities over from me)
>take her on a picnic, get really drunk, actually have a lot of fun and completely forget that i am out in public with a tranny
>for the next few weeks we just go out and do fun stuff together
>desu i was starting to get annoyed because we were having sex less and less
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>>6251947
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>one day we go out and she tells me she has a surprise for me
>im hoping maybe she'll blow me on the beach or something
>instead, she introduces me to her fucking parents and we have dinner together
>it actually wasn't even that bad
>afterwards she says she wants to meet my parents too, says we should do it next weekend
>i keep telling her "yeah, maybe" and putting it off
>i put it off for months and months and she seems alright with it because we're still fucking and going out and doing fun things
>one day she just completely breaks down crying because i havent introduced her to my parents yet
>she says i'm embarassed of her but i deny it and it turns into a fight
>like a fucking moron i decide to "prove her wrong" by calling my mom right then and there and setting up a dinner for her to meet my new gf
>all the sudden she's super happy and starts kissing me all over
>we go to my parents house and im about ready to kill myself because my parents are about to meet my tranny gf
>ive never introduced any of my gfs to them before so they're super excited about it
>my parents and my cute tranny gf hit it off, my mom loves her, and they dont even seem to care she's a tranny
>as we are leaving i come upon the realization that i am in a committed relationship with a tranny


that was 2 years ago and we're still together. we're living together now and ive saved up thousands of dollars to help pay for her SRS even though when she first brought it up i told her she shouldn't do it because i didnt want to lose my qt dickgirl. now i don't even care about her dick i just want her to be happy.

i've been going over everything that has happened up to this point a lot lately and i feel like she's been manipulating the shit out of me since we first met and i want to leave her but i'm also head over heels in love with her so i dont know what the fuck i should do. what the fuck should i do?
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>>6251951
no you idiot, you fell in love with her. are you retarded or autistic?
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>>6251947
>story about you manipulating her emotionally and using her for sex while being embarrassed about being with her, while calling her a tranny on an Chinese whittle forum
>'Help I'm being manipulated!'

OK

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I want to know more about this type of facial type. He is very cute even though he probably has a masculine face without all the stuff on. Is this type of face good for everyday passing or only crossdressing/fetish stuff?
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I ask because the only time that I see this type of face, it's by someone who just crossdresses time to time, not full time trans. I wonder how it'd work out if they tried full time.
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it's called the average white man's face
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If they really transitioned the jaw would probably soften up a bit and the cheeks would fill out.

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If you are amazingly buttfuckingly gay person who wants to set the world straight, or just some angsty half-caste wannabe whitey with unpopular opinions, who kinda likes, no homo, that one cute guy in your neighbourhood.

Take it away guys. Hate on other races, hate on other /lgbt/ people. Hate on feminism.

Realize that a homotopia of buttsex and science is the bedrock of a good future society and join in on the conversation.

And as always, post moar polgbt!
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I have no problem with LGB but transsexuals are actual degenerates and I hate how they've co-opted our subculture.
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>>6246209
Ahh humanity's good old standby. "I would enslave others even though I know what its like to be enslaved"

that's a real phenomenon and its as common and ubiquitous in all its forms as it is heartbreaking and hilarious.
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I have no problem with transexuals but LGB are actual degenerates and I hate how they've co-opted our subculture.

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In modern society we are taught to look at the world though certain perspectives/lenses.We live in patriarchal world; women take their husband's last names, a standard human body on a medical poster is male, men are taught to be observers and women are objects. Things like lingerie serve no practical purpose for the wearer and are intended for voyeurism only.


The problem is that women are not simply objects, they are observers as well. Yet since the female perspective is considered exotic and non-standard, women often adopt the male lens to look at both themselves and other women.This is also especially true of anyone that was socialized as a man. This presents an interesting dilemma because during sex it puts women in the position of observer rather than participant, performer rather than partner.This in turn forces a woman into an out-of body state where she is cut off from her own eroticism/bodily sensations.

Sex with people who were socialized as women( trans men included) can bring women back into authentic sexuality where they are free to get in touch with their own eroticism free of socialized voyeurism.
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trans girls whine and bitch about chasers, but it's such fucking old news to be objectified for cis girls. No sympathy.
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>>6238230
>muh patriarchy
this fucking delusion. enjoy living life on easy mode as a girl and shut the fuck up.

>muh objectification
men are literally pawns for powerful people to throw around in wars and forced to construct great projects for society.

how horrible it must be for people to want to fuck you. how will you ever manage.
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>>6238247
>men are literally pawns for powerful people to throw around in wars and forced to construct great projects for society.
The majority of those powerful people are men though. You're talking about a class issue, not a gender one.

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This is the Trans Help General thread. We'll try to help you here with everything related to being transgender.
This includes questioning, appearance, daily trans problems, medical info, general info and other interesting stuff to name a few.

MTF, FTM and questioning people are all welcome here to help eachother and discuss possible solutions.

You can also share your transgender related stories here. Just came out? Or you just need to get something off your chest?
Maybe something wonderful happened today! We'll be glad to hear it, it's always good to know we're not going through this alone.

Links:
Articles, Studies and General information about Questioning, Transitioning and other stuff: http://pastebin.com/CyW1dXV8
Lots of useful links about/for transgender people: http://pastebin.com/h1vLPxyV
Transgender FAQ: http://pastebin.com/8QbKyShU
Am i trans/ trans help threads archive:
http://deploy.loveisover.me/lgbt
search with google for specific threads

Therapists: http://www.t-vox.org/index.php?title=Therapists_by_region
http://therapists.psychologytoday.com/rms/prof_search.php
sort by transsexual issues

What will hormones do?
mtf: http://imgur.com/lDBLSVR
ftm: http://imgur.com/HqTqvJg

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How long is it going to take to get hormones from an informed consent clinic in the Boston area? Will telling them I self med speed up or slow down the process?

In addition I've run out of my medication and I've been rationing the little I have left but it just feels like I'm fucking dying. I'm doing 50mg of spiro and 4mg estradial. Is this pointless? How long until the flu shit goes away? How do I cope with this in the meantime?

Feels like death guys, I just want to fix this ASAP. Maybe I'm being a baby.
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>>6233671
Here in Texas, I went through a therapist to get a letter after only two sessions and walked out of my first doctor's appointment with scripts. I feel like telling both my therapist and my doctor that I had been self-medding for five months help speed up the process.
Side note: my first round of blood tests revealed that the spiro I had been self-medding with was practically doing nothing at all.
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>>6233671
Telling them you self med may get you scripts immediately. That falls under least harm.

If you already have obvious body changes, you may be able to go your your GP doc and get under scripts and testing. I went that route. I was on hormones 4 to 5 months when I went and got scripts from my GP doc. She did give me a lecture, and I explained myself and my choices. Also what positive psychological effects they had. I knew about the possible issues with the meds I was on and all the alternatives.

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So I've asked this on /pol/ a couple of times but never got a satisfactory answer. I thought between the genuine gay people and the /pol/ people who come here I might have more luck.

What am wondering is where you think homophobia/whatever actually comes from. It's something I've puzzled over for many years and never really understood.

I'm straight and from the first time I ever heard the concept of gayness I thought it was great. There are men out there who not only don't want to compete for girls, but they actively want other guys to be like them. I never saw the downside.

From a cultural perspective, I would think most people would be for them. They fill a similar role eunuchs, being productive members of society but not pursuing women and not trying as hard to move their genes along to the next generation.

My leading theory is that it's really all about women. Some men feel threatened that other men might be looking at them the way they look at women. Also, I think there might be jealousy that gay people get to experience love and sex without having to deal with women.

These might be way off base though, so hence the question. Also I want to make it clear, I'm not trying to change anyone's opinion. If you don't like gay people, it's no problem to me. I'm just honestly curious why.
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>>6205488
>My leading theory is that it's really all about women. Some men feel threatened that other men might be looking at them the way they look at women. Also, I think there might be jealousy that gay people get to experience love and sex without having to deal with women.
This, and I'll add to that it's just what we're taught. Before I was sexually attracted to anything, I said a lot of homophobic shit parroted from my parents.
They kind of made me go to Sunday school, but they're not really religious, and generationally speaking, we've been getting less religious with each passing generation.

What may have started out as something based in what you've said, or in religion, becomes this 'whisper down the lane' effect where kids are just taught to be casually homophobic because that's the norm.
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>>6205504
That makes sense. I was raised by pretty progressive parents and my first encounter with the concept of gay people way a family friend who had a boyfriend. So it was never not normal and I've always found it odd that other people actually care, let alone get offended or upset. Even still, I feel the need to understand where it comes from.
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>>6205526
Well, you nailed it.
Religion, 'conservatism', and misogyny.

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Can you guys and girls take back your tripfag trannies instead of letting them run amock in my board?

Having /pol/ posting interracial cuckold porn every day multiple times is enough already. Please take your trannies back, we don't really need mtfg 2.0

Sincerely, 29 year old virgin neet robot.
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>>6267121
>oh no people are making /pol/ bad
oh

a tragedy
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>>6267131
No. I'm from /r9k/ I don't like /pol/ either because they spam cuckoldry porn in my board.

Now we are being raided by both /pol/ and /lgbt/ daily. Please have mercy on us. Even your tripfags are shitposting there non stop.
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>>6267147
It's probably because R9K has a reputation for being a bunch of chasers. Been over there a few times and it's just like one neverending cringe thread

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would you rise for your brother mtfg?

▶ Thread Music: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lw6qxDPmOGM [Embed]
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▶ Trans Info Dump: http://pastebin.com/h1vLPxyV
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▶ Size charts: http://www.americanapparel.net/sizing/default.asp?chart=womens.pantse_conversion_chart.php
▶ Transition timelines: http://imgur.com/a/qWpxv
▶ Voice Training: http://pastebin.com/dgipdsge
▶ HRT info: https://web.archive.rg/web/0000000000000 http://taimapedia.org/index.php?title=Hormones
▶ Voice Help: http://webjedi.net/projects/lgbtq/speech-therapy/
▶ IRC: https://www.rizon.net/chat#mtfg
▶ Zeemaps: https://www.zeemaps.com/map?group=1843968

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testosterone is killing me
send help
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KAYLA I FOUND THIS PICTURE FOR YOU THE OTHER DAY
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>>6266800
Is Dark Souls worth giving a shot?

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muswell hillbillies edition

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▶ Size charts: http://www.americanapparel.net/sizing/default.asp?chart=womens.pantse_conversion_chart.php
▶ Transition timelines: http://imgur.com/a/qWpxv
▶ Voice Training: http://pastebin.com/dgipdsge
▶ HRT info: https://web.archive.rg/web/0000000000000 http://taimapedia.org/index.php?title=Hormones
▶ Voice Help: http://webjedi.net/projects/lgbtq/speech-therapy/
▶ IRC: https://www.rizon.net/chat#mtfg
▶ Zeemaps: https://www.zeemaps.com/map?group=1843968

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First for Grace is a cute
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>>6265495
Congrats! Super proud of you
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>>6265510
second for grace is a cute

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Anyone here have a quick n' easy guide to LGBT pronouns?
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Lesbian - She, Her, Dyke
Gay - He, Him, Faggot
Bi Female - She, Her, Dyke
Bi Male - He, Him, Faggot
FTM Trans - He, Him, Dyke
MTF Trans - She, Her, Faggot
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Ask gender:
>If male: He, him, his, etc.
>If female: She, her, hers, etc.
>If gender that does not fall into the "oppressive, patriarchal gender-binary": Log off of Tumblr.
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>>6265100

just say whatever they look most like and if they bitch it's their problem that they don't pass, not yours. Don't feel guilt because someone looks ambiguous

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