Let's discuss: Louis XIV, great king or overrated king?
>>289526
I thought his extravagant spending was part of the reason the French Revolution was started?
>>289539
No, it was the July Revolution of 1848.
Greatest king.
Militarily, he made France the most feared power in Europe, bringing Spain, England and the Netherlands to their knees.
This was helped by hiring amazing military talent - Condé, Vauban, Turenne, Tallard, Louvois, etc.. Nigga revolutionized siege tactics and created the first national uniform.
Culturally, his rule allowed Molière, Racine, Corneille, La Fontaine, Descartes and Pascal to flourish.
Economically, he hired Colbert, who was considered one of the brightest economists of his time.
Fashion-wise, nigga's an icon.
All throughout history -hundreds of years of intellectuals- not a single one argument has been made in favor of exploiting animals. In fact, the environment, ethics, and (arguably) health, all point to the contrary. Those who get offensive about this topic simply are avoiding the truth. This is not comparable to religion, this is not comparable to politics, this isn't a matter of choosing red or blue, it's simply a matter of facts, that the only consequent behavior for someone who doesn't want to inflict pain in others (which I believe is accurate for most human beings) is to be vegan.
http://www.godfist.com/vegansidekick/guide/
Discuss.
>polish intellectuals
>not a single one argument has been made in favor of exploiting animals
Wrong. Jesus Christ, aka, GOD, made men and created animals for men.
>>289501
>not a single one argument has been made in favor of exploiting animals
Because it's pretty self evident. Having a beast of burden to pull shit around is damn useful, as is having a bunch of birds that give you food every day from eating worms and shit, or a cow that gives you liquid food every day that also pulls shit around and will feed you for a month when it dies. In modern times it gets more questionable, but taste and profit justify it inna practical, if not a moral context.
Are there any examples of movements considered bigoted and evil by contemporary standards that used the "right side of history" argument?
I wanna slap that faggot so hard
>>289477
Well, national socialism.
>>289489
Citations please, I need these for meme purposes
>CE
>BCE
Who BC-CE masterrace here?
>>289464
>Before Christianity/Christian Era
>Before Christ/Christian Era
>Before Christ/Common Era
Be more specific pls.
>>289419
>Before Christ
>Anno Domini
I don't know how far political correctness can go to change the fucking calendar.
In french it is "Avant Jésus-Christ" and "Après Jésus-Christ" and no one gives a damn, not even muslims or jews.
Did Hitler really pursue homosexuals or is it just jewish lies? I can understand him wanting to repress effeminant gays, but would he really kill a manly aryan man just because he's not attracted to vaginas?
He looked like the kind of guy who would defend a "don't ask, don't tell" policy.
>>289347
>Did Hitler really pursue homosexuals or is it just jewish lies?
ZIONIST/JEWISH SLANDER.
>I can understand him wanting to repress effeminant gays, but would he really kill a manly aryan man just because he's not attracted to vaginas?
>effeminant
THAT IS NOT EVEN A WORD IN THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE; YOU MOST PROBABLY MEANT "EFFEMINATE", BUT EVEN THUS THE TERM "EFFEMINATE GAYS" IS UNNECESSARILY SPECIFIC.
>He looked like the kind of guy who would defend a "don't ask, don't tell" policy.
THE GERMAN NATIONAL SOCIALIST STATE DID NOT PUNISH, NOR ENFORCE, ANY STANDARDS OF SEXUALITY, BUT DID NOT TOLERATE, NOR CONDONE, SEXUAL DEVIANCY EITHER.
>>289347
Yeah, he want after gays, the disabled, gypsies, Slavs, and especially Jews. This is undisputed fact.
>>289347
There's absolutely nothing to indicate that he was a fag.
How do i become less Eurocentric? Or is Eurocentric the right thing to be and other cultures simply don't matter as much to human progress as Europeans do?
>Or is Eurocentric the right thing to be and other cultures simply don't matter as much to human progress as Europeans do?
For the past 400 years or so, yes. It'll probably stay that way for another hundred.
>>289244
Don't try to be the "not eurocentric" insufferable faggot.
Just don't be ignorant about non-European countries.
>>289259
This
Just shut the fuck about it and be well rounded
What would happen if Western Allies and Soviet Union clashed in 1945? Who would come out victorious? No nukes.
>>289242
You can't say No Nukes because the USA had nukes and probably would have used one to put the USSR in her place. That's effectively what the nukes on Japan did anyway. Except if they were used on the USSR she may have retaliated once she developed them, as a revenge act, leading to MAD.
Soviets had more manpower, vehicles, etc. in the region than all the other allied armies combined. They would have steamrolled the continent only stopping at the Alps and Pyrenees respectively.
>>289242
Britain.
Youtube's CGP Grey just made a video using this book, Guns, Germs, and Steel by Jared Diamond.
Opinions on him and his theories seem mixed, so I'd like to see a discussion.
I think he is part correct (the suitable for domestication animals spread part) at least, even if he tries to expand this one point too far and too wide.
Whats your opinion? How would you explain the Middle East's current situation, since they had the best possible starting location according to Jared Diamond. Afghanistan in particular, natural barriers, horses, goats, grasses, wheat, pigs, everything.
Video link:
https://youtu.be/JEYh5WACqEk
Map in image is a gag on Civilization V, where starting location is important for the whole course of the game.
The problem with this book isn't that it's wrong but that people try to use it explain away all of human history.
All it really does is show the advantages Eurasia had over the Americas/Australia, and to a lesser extent Africa. That's extremely important, and it does a good job of explaining that.
It does not explain why Europe came to dominate instead of other parts of Eurasia, nor does it explain why some parts of the world developed civilizations while others didn't). That would require reading other books.
Stormfags of course just dumb the whole thing down to something about zebras, while SJWs either love it (because it's anti-racist) or hate it (because they think it's used to justify imperialism), always for the wrong reasons.
There isn't going to be any serious discussion in this thread, it's just going to be shitposting and memes.
How is it even relevant to the Middle East current situation? You can't apply his theory after 1500s when the whole world was connected by trade routes.
How accurate is this image?
Archimedes was on the same level as Newton in mathematics.
>scientific advancement
How is this measured?
>preserved by catholics and byzantines instead of muslims
Dear Historians and Humanitarians!
Lets discuss free will and determinism.
I strongly believe that the modern society limits free will, and that you will always be 'poked' by external factos when you do things seemingly at your own free will.
What factors do you guys believe affects your daily life and do you think anyone "is in charge?" (Third world order)
I don't really have a strong argument against it, but I still having a nagging feeling that free will doesn't really exist.
I think that people, for the most part, are simply predictable input->output machines with a randomization component thrown in at the end. I don't really think the randomization component qualifies as free will.
There is no free will. Schopenhauer settled this shit ages ago, Spinoza even earlier actually. There is no refutation to their arguments.
Fuck off with the Sartrean make-believe please.
>>288954
You mean freedom as in liberty and positive and negative freedom or what goes on inside the skull?
>best
Jefferson
>runner-up
JFK
>worst
Johnson
>overrated (but still good)
Lincoln
>underrated
Arthur
>wewlad
Harrison
>>288789
>los presidentes de los estados unidos de america
>THE BEST
Andrew "It Ain't a Sin to Kill Every Redskin" Jackson
>RUNNER-UP
JFK
>WORST
Nixon
>OVERRATED (but still good)
FDR
>UNDERRATED
LBJ
>WEWLAD
Woodrow Wilson
>best
Theodore Roosevelt
>runner-up
Washington
>worst
FDR
>overrated (but still good)
Lincoln
>underrated
Nixon
>wewlad
Andrew Jackson
Do you agree with this basic timeline of history?
What would you change?
needs more memes
arbitrary boundaries
i would stop thinking in epochs altogether
Also, shouldn't Prehistory say 3 million / 3000 AC in fact say 3 million / 3000 BC?
What the hell happened to make the Middle East the way it is today?
Islam happened
>>288726
Ataturk
The Mongols.
>Alows Indian, Muslim, African soldiers into his Army.
>Allies with the Japanese (honorary aryans)
>people still think Hitler was a staunch racist.
>>288671
>Allows blacks to be slaves on cotton plantation
>people still think whites were staunch racists
I can do it too OP.
>>288682
Volunteer soldiers aren't exactly slaves
>Lorded over "untermenschen" until they needed them as cannon fodder.
Fixed it for you
Why do Abrahamic religions like covering women's hair so much?
>>288635
Because they are all sexually repressive, which just makes them more horny. A woman looks a lot more attractive with her hair flowing, i think it's a sign of healthiness and youth in a way, so covering it makes them look less attractive so the Pastor wont get a boner.
>>288635
Strangely enough, some of them conversely, or even simultaneously in more fundamentalist veins, demand that her hair never be cut.
>>288651
Examples? Never heard of that but it sounds interesting.