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Was Lenin evil?
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You'd have to answer the considerably more difficult question "what is evil?" Under most definitions, yes he was. He was a tyrant who killed people and stole property all for the sake of his morally bankrupt ideology. There's some argument to be made that he wasn't very evil by communist standards, but that's only because most communists were extremely evil.
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>>288519
A bit.
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>>288519
He consciously chose to efface the distinction between good and evil, which is the very definition of evil. For him there was not morality, only historical progress which would completely vindicate his deeds and misdeeds. He is the very archetype of modern totalitarian tyranny and its sense of self-validation through history, as opposed to mere brutal despotism that doesn't give a fuck.

I remember coming across a selection of Lenin's written orders and letters. I don't think there was a leader in history before him that commanded the execution and destruction of entire civil population with such calm nonchalance. Only a person who is utterly convinced of the righteousness of his acts not by his own moral conviction but by a "scientific" historical system can act this way. Truly amazing and terrifying.

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daily reminder that the incoming Pan-Orthodox Council will be the Second Vatican Council of the Orthodox world

lmao, just read the agenda..

say goodbye to your retrogade and bigoted religion.. prepare to embrace "modernity"

it's 2015 for God's sake! :^)
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>inlying there is a united Orthodox church and not ~20 de-facto independent patriarchates
Like, who gives a shit about Constantinople patriarch? I wish Stalin succeeded in late 40s in establishing Moscow Patriarch as the leader of Orthodox church.
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>>288536
how does councils work.
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>>288594
Badly. Considering Russian Church is, like, 60% of world's Orthodox population, and very conservative at the same time, it will either block any second-vaticanish proposals, or demonstrative ignore it.

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>It is true that according to critical theory, the good as such, the absolute positive cannot be represented. On the other hand, we - I mean Adorno and myself - have always explained that in the most diverse fields, that which is to be changed for the better in a particular field can be designated. Furthermore, I have often emphasized that doing the right thing would not only include change, but also the conservation of certain cultural moments, yes, that the true conservative has more in common with the true revolutionary than he does with the fascist, just as the true revolutionary has more in common with the true conservative than he does with the so-called communist of today. - Max Horkheimer, 1970

What is the legacy of the founders of critical theory? Is critical theory i the vein of Horkheimer and Adorno even possible today?

Hide/Report/Don't reply to all /pol/lack distractors.
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>What is the legacy of the founders of critical theory?

Ultimate self-hatred and cultural marxism.

Reminder that Habermaß fucked off from the Frankfurt school because their fanatical hatred for western culture went too far even for him
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>>288543
>their fanatical hatred for western culture
Now explain how that assertion is in any way compatible with what Horkheimer just told you.
Also, Habermas didn't so much fuck off, as he did take over and give the institute a new direction, mostly because he couldn't see where the original project could be going from there.
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>>288543
>cultural marxism

In the /pol/ sense, is nothing but a buzzword used by Burgerlards. You can't have Marxism totally separated from the economic dimension, the ENTIRE premise of Marxism is that history is defined materially and class/social divisions are due to material inequality. The values you ascribe to "cultural Marxism" existed since the Enlightenment and were present in liberal democracy long before socialism was a thing.

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_Marxism_(Schlagwort)

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ITT: redflags that turn you off from debating with someone
For me it is
>strawmen
>ad hominem
>goalpost moving
>using personal feelings and experiences as evidence
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anybody who disagrees with me is basically wrong and should be jailed
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For me its people who have debate red flags.
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>>288441
>experiences as evidence

Yeah, fuck science

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>mfw talking to heathens
>mfw reminding them that their contributions to knowledge, culture and civilization are pathetic
>mfw reminding them that if vikings/heathens are so tough and "Christkeks" are so weak, how comes they are pretty much extinct whilst Christians dominate the world still?
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>>288316
>mfw reminding them that their contributions to knowledge, culture and civilization are pathetic
Ever heard of the Nibelungenlied, the Edda, Battle of the Teutoburg forrest? Teutons? Pretty influential Germanic poems, peoples, battles, cultural achievements, etc

>how comes they are pretty much extinct whilst Christians dominate the world still?
Because of Merovingian and Carolingian dynasties. Especially the Franks started to enforce christianity on other tribes. Just think of Clovis I. and Carolus Magnus for example who have violently oppressed other peoples with their Christian conquest.

And in general Christianity was germanized. Especially after a lot of pagans migrated into the Roman empire.

>The Mayfest for example is a pagan fest.
>The Maypole and the Christmas tree originally symbolized the Yggdrasil/Irminsul.
>The marriage, like we Christians do it today with exchanging rings and all, comes from Germanic traditions aswell.
>The sun-symbolism (especially the cross combined with the sun) in Christianity has Indo-European roots aswell.
>etc.
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>>288474
>Nibelungenlied
>heathen
>Battle of the Teutoburg forrest
>not achieved with the knowledge Arminius obtained as a roman anxilliary
>Edda
>relevant in any form before christian times

And your best example of germanic heathen achievement is their forceful conversion to christianity by germanics who had dropped the heathen bullshit.
All in all a pretty weak defense of heathens, dontchathink?
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>>288316

>Mfw talking to Christians.
>Mfw reminding them that the Gospels can't even agree on what day Jesus was crucified on, supposedly the centerpiece of their religion.
>Mfw people actually believe this shit.

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If baltic states formed a nation in 12 century (when there were just tribes) what could have they accomplished
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>>288282
Niggers
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A shitty tribal confederacy doomed to be conquered sooner or later.
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The Grand Duchy of Lithuania

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I wanna learn about buddhism
where do I start?
what do I read?
what memes do I have to steer clear of?
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>>288252
u mean jewduh
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>>288252
Main kampf cuz they use swastikas aswell.
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>>288258
>Main kampf
It's called "Mein Kampf", retard. Learn German.

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Why do we gloss over the worst atrocity committed by Americans, the treatment of the Native Americans? Is it because they're tucked away on reservations? What a nightmare welfare state they are is another subject entirely
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>>288240
Shhh no tears
Only dreams now
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They were warring tribes who would use up an area of land until it was shitty, go kill the next tribe over, and use that land until it was shitty. Fuck them, they sucked and still suck.
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>>288240
Well the dead can't complain.

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So you all hate John Green or whatever the hell he was but what about It's History?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8gT7HN_fyM
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The way he looks, talks, his mannerisms, and his choice of figures in his little intro sequence are too much.
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>>288064
I can't watch this shit but looks like it's the worst, most leftist piece of shit on youtube.
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>>288039
The Great War is actually pretty good.
John Green is a lazy motherfucker youtube wannabe.

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When they did much worse?

>muslims attack and invade christian, buddhist, zoroastrian and hindu lands
>it's considered bad to fight back


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_conquests_on_the_Indian_subcontinent
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Talas
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umayyad_conquest_of_Hispania
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Russo-Turkish_wars
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_conquest_of_Transoxiana
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_conquest_of_Persia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_conquests
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>>287737
Muzzies are pretty hate able is how much they play the victim 2bh
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>>287737
>muh religious genocide isnt as bad as your religious genocide

Fuck off, retard.
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>>287737
Muslims don't cry about the Crusades. If they're complaining about Westerners fucking up the Middle East, they're talking about Western intervention in their lands post-WW1 and WW2.

Only SJW on the internet trying to prove "C-Christians are just as bad as ISIS!" bring up the Crusades.

Why is Spinoza such an insufferable cunt? His text is giant mess with each line making you zigzag across the page to some previous entry to find out WTF he is saying. It's already the first page and it's turned into a crawl.
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>>287578
Haha, he actually did it on purpose.
He thought that if he was to write his thesis like a geometrical theorem it would be easier to understand, and harder to refute.
That's why his book basically called "Ethica more geometrico demunstrata", Ethics demonstrated in a geomatrical fashion.

But it makes it unseferrable. Furthermore, it means that if you accept the premiliminary definitions, then the only logical conclusions you could draw were his owns. Wich is even more infuriating, because it basically means Spinozism is an enclosed system, impervious to all internal or external criticism.

There are still some legit Spinozist out there. And they still go to legit philosophical conferences, just to randomly stand up and say that they disagree with, well, everything that has been said and written since Descartes.
I've seen it, people. Uni teachers in their late 50's acting like a fucking troll on 4chan.

I remember all the others teach in the room shaking their heads and facepalming as one glorious motherfucker vehemently explained to everyone in the room how the mere subject of the conference we were attending was pure nonsense in a Spinozist point of view. Old man was an Absolute Sperglord.

Best part? They don't believe in freedom, so you can't even shame them into shutting their mouth. Hell, Spinoza himself nearly died being such a reckless prick, so I guess those people actually take pride in it.

TL; DR : Spinozism. Best philosophy ever or Severe Autism ?
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>>287709
>premiliminary definitions
>premiliminary

Excuse my accidental display of power level.
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>>287709
>Haha, he actually did it on purpose
This is not how you become an influential philosopher!

Is there some book that makes this mess something understandable? This is a nightmare! I have no desire to become a Spinozist but I thought I could take some of his ideas and synthesis them with other philosophy. Now you are telling me it's a closed system? So there is no way to encorprate it into other philosophy, the whole thing is one giant package deal? For fuck sakes even Plato with his crazy forms isn't that stubborn.

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What books do I need to read for an adequate understanding of the Middle Eastern conflict?

And if anyone feels deja vu I actually made this thread a while ago but forgot about it and never saw the responses.
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You should be more specific, the middle eastern conflict has been going on since before recorded time.
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>>287571
This.

The entire region has been a democidal bloodbath with occasional spots of enforced peace for as long as there have been people there.
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>>287558
Start with the torah then the bible, finally hit up the quran. It will be quite clear.

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What were their biggest influences on Western Europe from 793 CE (Lindisfarne) to the 11th century?
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>>287535
Danelaw and Normandy.
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>>287535
Rape probably. No really, anyone with blue eyes/fair hair outside of Scandinavia can confidently say one of their ancestors was fucked by a viking.
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>>287535
Viking is just the raider class in norse culture
So probably dispersing wealth and encouraging centralization to stop them.

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>read about the glories of Rome
>learn about it's fall to the unwashed hordes of barbarians
>tfw I'm descended exclusively from the barbarian hordes

I'm...I'm sorry...
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>>287508

SAVE YOUR PATHETIC IRRATIONAL "APOLOGIES", AND LEARN ACTUAL HISTORY.
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Wait, so are you a Hun or a Turk?
Because at the time of Rome's fall, the Goths were interested in preserving and continuing Roman culture, rather than destroying it
Alaric was a total Romaboo, to the point of calling himself "Alariucs", and contemporary commentators marveled at how humane the "Sack of Rome" was relative to the usual customs of war in the era. St Augustine considered it a near miraculous sign of the superiority of the Christian faith.

Similarly, Theoderic, the Ostrogothic king, tried to support Roman culture, and might have been seen as Rome's savior if not for Justinian and Clovis ruining everything.
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>>287531
>no one ever replies to you :^)

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How and why did China, one of the most advanced civilizations hurr durr, get keked into submission by Britain?
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>one of the most advanced civilizations
That's the thing: they were a backwards and undeveloped shithole.
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>>287437

The British should have tried attacking China during Ming dynasty and not the Qing dynasty - the manchus were originally horse nomads and they stalled the development in china.
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Britain had far superior war tech.

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